Azimuth
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TV recorders fall under some separate distinction, I think. It's mostly for personal use, really, and isn't exactly a method of distribution and/or profiteering. There must be some legal provision for it.
PC Game Piracy Examined
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TV recorders fall under some separate distinction, I think. It's mostly for personal use, really, and isn't exactly a method of distribution and/or profiteering. There must be some legal provision for it.
Tsar
The thing that should not be
That I call the grey area. I see allot of people downloading bc2 and then complian that they can't play the multiplayer:relleyes:
Voicy
Resident Panty Kicker
By law it's illegal to tape shows on television/radio.
How does that differ from every casual pirate who downloads movies / games & MP3s for his own personal non-(Nigerian copying and selling it on the street corner)-profit collection? (Aside from the inconvenience of retrieving the data off the PVR's HDD into the correct codec format)
Azimuth
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But is it? I'm googling now, but most of these results are really muddled. I've not yet found any conclusive answer.
Perhaps there's a different copyright policy for broadcast? I mean, there's absolutely no doubt that the scenario you've given there is copyright infringement. I just don't know if that applies in broadcast, though.
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Jabberwocky
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I ask myself if I would be willing to buy the game if a pirated version was not available, and then I buy it.
Usually I reach that point when it lands in the bargain bin.
Usually I reach that point when it lands in the bargain bin.
Stefan9
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Regarding copy right law, the south african law has a fair usage clause. What this basicly allows is the backing up of your own software/games/music as long as its for your personal use. What it basicly means is you are allowed to protect your stuff in case the disc breaks.
This clause its pretty common world wide which is why software like daemon tools,ect is legal. Basicly these programs serve a legal purpose even though a lot of users use them for other purposes and the same can be said about the dvd writer.
The recording and watching of tv broadcast also fall under our fair usage clause.
This clause its pretty common world wide which is why software like daemon tools,ect is legal. Basicly these programs serve a legal purpose even though a lot of users use them for other purposes and the same can be said about the dvd writer.
The recording and watching of tv broadcast also fall under our fair usage clause.
Necuno
The Piper
part of the issue comes in where you have a friend who is too willing to just part with his legal bought for his friends to clone. however on another note... is it wrong to rather download something you really can't get any more legally or should you just never ever get it then ? [bit more on the abondonware side of things]
that's normally what happens with something bad you ate
Stefan9
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part of the issue comes in where you have a friend who is too willing to just part with his legal bought for his friends to clone. however on another note... is it wrong to rather download something you really can't get any more legally or should you just never ever get it then ? [bit more on the abondonware side of things]
that's normally what happens with something bad you ate
That would be the exception a lot of older games are now being rereleased on services like gog and steam or can be imported. I would say if its totally unavailable it would probably be morally ok but still illegal but I would totally disagree if its availabe but you are being to cheap to download or import it.
tpex
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wtf??????????
Plasma280
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I think it really just boils down to one thing only........... Money
Yes good old greedy money. Developers are losing it, players think they pay too much for games. It's just a viscous greedy circle.
At the end of the day the choice about whether you pirate a game or go out and buy the legal copy lies with you alone.
Yes good old greedy money. Developers are losing it, players think they pay too much for games. It's just a viscous greedy circle.
At the end of the day the choice about whether you pirate a game or go out and buy the legal copy lies with you alone.
Bigupme
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I think something that comes into it is there are so many games, people can't afford them all, so they buy a few and download the rest. I would guess that a lot of what is downloaded is downloaded by kids. Kids don't have any income usually, they have an allowance probably but they probably won't want to spend it all on games.
It's occured to me that working people have less time to play games and therefore can't play as many, so very well may only play games that they have bought. Seeing as they also work for their money they could have a better "drive" to support the developers, also working people.
Just a theory.
In the article the guy says some things about Valve having the monopoly on digital distribution (and therefore not to support them too much iirc). I don't think I quite agree with that. They have the best presence and arguably the best system (that I know of) with a great range, but that's not a monopoly. It's just a shortcoming of other systems, they haven't made their systems live up to Steam.
A great positive with Steam for devs if you look at this article, http://steamreview.org/posts/finances/, it reckons that standard distribution deals give the devs 10-20%, while Steam gives them 60%! Plus they keep their IP. I don't know about anyone else but that makes Steam look amazing in my eyes. If I was going to try sell a game, I would look no further.
It's made me think I would like to buy more games from Steam, knowing that more money is getting to the dev, though I guess it's still dependant on the deal they have with their publisher.
It's occured to me that working people have less time to play games and therefore can't play as many, so very well may only play games that they have bought. Seeing as they also work for their money they could have a better "drive" to support the developers, also working people.
Just a theory.
In the article the guy says some things about Valve having the monopoly on digital distribution (and therefore not to support them too much iirc). I don't think I quite agree with that. They have the best presence and arguably the best system (that I know of) with a great range, but that's not a monopoly. It's just a shortcoming of other systems, they haven't made their systems live up to Steam.
A great positive with Steam for devs if you look at this article, http://steamreview.org/posts/finances/, it reckons that standard distribution deals give the devs 10-20%, while Steam gives them 60%! Plus they keep their IP. I don't know about anyone else but that makes Steam look amazing in my eyes. If I was going to try sell a game, I would look no further.
It's made me think I would like to buy more games from Steam, knowing that more money is getting to the dev, though I guess it's still dependant on the deal they have with their publisher.
tpex
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WOW I didn't know that, I think thats awesome, and how it should be
Vixe
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Rofl this Xbox give-away is gonna spawn lots of these oakes.
I would never have guessed that ... especially with the amazing specials that Steam is offering almost daily. Do the developers pay Steam anything for the listing?