5 reasons console gaming>PC gaming

[Raven Gold]

And what about the folks that play older, undemanding games that are quintessentially hardcore? Specifically DotA (which may or may not fade away with HoN and LoL on the scene) and CS1.6? These games remain popular because they can run on your work-issued laptop (among other reasons), but they certainly don't attract the demographic that play Peggle and Barbie Adventures.

Well I feel graphics is just something to attract the weak minded who don't care about content. Really the essence of a game is how it plays and keeps you playing. Everybody who keeps "Pushing the envilope" are just running into a steel re-enforced concrete wall. Graphics realism has reached no signifigant step forward for 3 years now. CoD4 looks just as good as anything afterwards in terms of realism.

Where there is truly alot to be developed is in gameplay and making games feel more emersive, and the pinicle of that as far as I can tell is CoD 4 and 5, everything since has had nothing new to bring.

 

[Jan]

Put that down unless your going to stab Kotick. I can choose not to buy the game and leave it at that. Sure, thats an impact, a small one, but yes. or I can have a slightly bigger blow by downloading it and than helping to distribute it again. So it's an even bigger loss (Potential?) for the publisher.

Err... No. The minimal stats (one sample -- hardly statistically significant) we currently have available suggests (basically) that only 1/1000 pirates is effectively a lost sale.

I argue that not playing the game is the bigger impact. Not only does it give you the moral high ground, it causes hurt in the second most important place in the gaming/entertainment industry: popularity. If we could cause games we feel hurt the platform (i.e. consolified or protected with ridiculously draconian DRM) to fade into obscurity on top of not making any money that's like a double-whammy. I think that a company will lose more money in the long run if their franchises and/or brand name become more and more obscure than through piracy.

So the next time you're standing about the water cooler and the small-talk turns to games: "Hey what'd you think of MW2/AC2/C&C4/SH5/anything else published by Ubisoft or EA" you can answer with glee, "It was such utter shit I didn't even play it." End of conversation, end of popular opinion of franchise and/or developer and/or publisher, less money in the long term for latter combination, more power to the stickittodamahn-gamer.

Hewhoshallnotbenamed is a pirate, he says he is against all this DRM and "dumbed down" control schemes but he pirates the game to "stick it to the man". I have a problem with that mind set. As as firmly as he feels about his "right" to play games his way, i feel that pirates are idiots who are hurting the industry they claim to love so much. If its not worth paying for its not worth playing. The END.

Ah, that wasn't clear to me in your initial reply. It seemed as if you were implying that taking a stand by not paying was basically like farting against thunder.

 

[Azimuth]

Don't waste your time with Raven Gold. He just uses the "moral piracy" argument to justify being a cheap bastard. And then he says "casual" gamers don't "deserve" to play games. It doesn't get much more "casual" than helping yourself to stuff, does it? LOL.

 

[tpex]

Put that down unless your going to stab Kotick. I can choose not to buy the game and leave it at that. Sure, thats an impact, a small one, but yes. or I can have a slightly bigger blow by downloading it and than helping to distribute it again. So it's an even bigger loss (Potential?) for the publisher.

See Raven the problem with that is for example: actiblizz pulls stats of their MW2 downloads of torrentfreak and see lots of people pirated it, and less people brought it, now they think "well these PC Gamers instead of buying out games are just pirating them, they are being cheap, let move to console," now if people just to refused to buy (and pirate) the game then they would think: "well this sold crap on PC, we must have done something wrong"

 

[crazydude]

Sorry for the double-posting everyone, I just find it's friendlier on the eyes if posts stay topical and don't become monolithic replies to every opinion in the thread.



And what about the folks that play older, undemanding games that are quintessentially hardcore? Specifically DotA (which may or may not fade away with HoN and LoL on the scene) and CS1.6? These games remain popular because they can run on your work-issued laptop (among other reasons), but they certainly don't attract the demographic that play Peggle and Barbie Adventures.

I don't want to go into Counter Strike, but what I was trying to say is that is the way that I feel the market would best be divided. I know that not all gamers are UBER H@RDCORE L33T, but I just think that a large segment of PC gamers could better served on consoles.

 

[Strifehart]

I just hate all the goddamn pirates on the PC and 360.

 

[Voicy]

Well I feel graphics is just something to attract the weak minded who don't care about content. Really the essence of a game is how it plays and keeps you playing. Everybody who keeps "Pushing the envilope" are just running into a steel re-enforced concrete wall. Graphics realism has reached no signifigant step forward for 3 years now. CoD4 looks just as good as anything afterwards in terms of realism.

I agree with you there, my absolute favourite games are:

Monkey Island 3

KotoR 1 & 2

and the best action game ... Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy

 

[Azimuth]

Ah, Monkey Island 3. The game that will never age.

 

[tehNihilist]

Hehe. really too bad I missed all of this. Go go Tarryn!!

It is really so sad how little my PC gets used to game these days. Over time it is becoming a glorified internet box. When I check my local gaming outlets I seldom see anything worth buying for my PC these days. It just seems there is FAR more choice on the consoles. Once the console steals some MMORPG's, well, then my PC is officially dead T_T

Aaaand time to go play some GoW 3...

 

[Blackhand]

Hehe. really too bad I missed all of this. Go go Tarryn!!

It is really so sad how little my PC gets used to game these days. Over time it is becoming a glorified internet box. When I check my local gaming outlets I seldom see anything worth buying for my PC these days. It just seems there is FAR more choice on the consoles. Once the console steals some MMORPG's, well, then my PC is officially dead T_T

Aaaand time to go play some GoW 3...

Might have something to do with the fact that retail for PC is dead. store.steampowered.com <--

 

[tpex]

Hehe. really too bad I missed all of this. Go go Tarryn!!

It is really so sad how little my PC gets used to game these days. Over time it is becoming a glorified internet box. When I check my local gaming outlets I seldom see anything worth buying for my PC these days. It just seems there is FAR more choice on the consoles. Once the console steals some MMORPG's, well, then my PC is officially dead T_T

Aaaand time to go play some GoW 3...

uour starting to sound like a console fanboi

 

[tehNihilist]

uour starting to sound like a console fanboi

Can't help it. When something is good it's good

If there were more good exclusives / less hassles on PC, I would have a very different opinion.

 

[Alan]

You're conveniently ignoring the otherwise inconvenient fact, of course, that I still game on PC too.

And really, you missed my point about Crysis. Art direction is so much more than just NICE GRAPHICS!!11. Sure, Crysis looks as close to photorealistic as any game has gotten, but... it just looks like any tropical island. I could do a Google image search for "tropical island" and probably come up with a tropical island that looks more interesting that Crysis. Take something like Gears of War, however, and you have an entire world that's been designed and created just for that game, and looks like nothing else. That's more impressive, I think, than photorealistic graphics. Notice the "I think" there. You're wecome to think differently.

The aim of the developer was a realistic environment both graphically and physics, an incredibly difficult undertaking. They achieved their goal creating a game miles ahead of similar titles and hence it stands out. I found it all very immersive. I don't think you can eally compare it to GOW considering they never set out to create a new world.

Gears Of War to me is just another space marine overdosed on steroids running around destroying overbearing space bugs like a million other similar titles. The art direction made no impression on me.

But each to their own. I unashamedly loved Crysis and it's gameplay. Let us just have this one series please