Good Old Gamers - and what you should by from them right now

jasong said:
Outcast is a difficult game to like. If you play it you need to give yourself 5 or 6 hours to get into the storyline. Abe's Odyssey/Exodus; well - they were fun and quirky but they were more or less Prince of Persia/Out of This World clones - the latter of which was a superior game imo.
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Abe's Odyssey/Exodus is loved becuase of its quirky and dark humor, I wouldn't compare it PoP since abe doesn't really fight...
 
Azimuth said:
I quite liked Fallout: Tactics. I think it gets hated on for not being a proper Fallout 3. :P But as a Jagged Alliance-style tactics game, it's really not too shabby.
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I disliked Fallout Tactics coz it disregarded the canon set up by the first 2 games. The art deco was wrong as was the music, not to mention the weapons. I played it a bit and didn't like it. I love the Fallout Canon and since it wasn't canon there was little point. Might give it a try again sometime.
 
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MP in Tactics was awesome
I remember creating a Deathclaw that basically drank itself to death just as each fight ended, yes we used to hold bareknuckle fights in FT
To this day "Buck Fitch" remains undefeated
 
OmegaFenix22 said:
Abe's Odyssey/Exodus is loved becuase of its quirky and dark humor, I wouldn't compare it PoP since abe doesn't really fight...
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Yeah Abe's is all about the humour which was very unique. I remember though getting to a point in playing it and deciding it was a coat of paint on a basically formulaic game. The barebones of the gameplay mechanics were stripped like I say from predecessors. What it did add was the multidimensional aspect, where you had to plan a runthrough based on several layers of background enemy placement. And the psychic powers in Exodus. But it did have fighting elements.... it was basically PoP's style of physics-based strategic run-jump-avoid death gameplay though.

Abe's Oddysee is in essence Prince of Persia in a different setting and with lots of added features.
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jasong said:
Yeah Abe's is all about the humour which was very unique. I remember though getting to a point in playing it and deciding it was a coat of paint on a basically formulaic game. The barebones of the gameplay mechanics were stripped like I say from predecessors. What it did add was the multidimensional aspect, where you had to plan a runthrough based on several layers of background enemy placement. And the psychic powers in Exodus. But it did have fighting elements.... it was basically PoP's style of physics-based strategic run-jump-avoid death gameplay though.
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You've completely forgotten about the rescue stuff. Which was a significant part of the game.

I think describing the game as a "PoP clone with features" is kinda disingenuous. I mean, by a similar token, you could describe PoP as a "Mario clone with features". Both the Oddworld games and PoP are fundamentally platform games. That's about all they have in common.
 
I haven't forgotten anything... it was my impression at the time of playing it when it was released. I started off liking it a lot because it had a ton of charm. But I got a bit disenchanted, never bothered to finish it really - got repetitive for me. Maybe it's a better game than I remember. I'd be willing to give it another play-through.

In terms of the PoP reference - I'm not the first one to make it. Most reviews will mention PoP as a major influence; or Flashback or Out of This World. The platforming style of PoP was totally different from Mario. It's the repeated strategic approach needed to beat a single portion of a level - rather than 'keep running and jumping till you get to the end'...not sure exactly how to term it. And the emphasis on realistic motion physics with real life consequences - eg splatting on impact with ground rather than being able to jump up and down infinite distances. But the legacy is immediately noticeable.

Sauntering between puzzles, cutscenes and ethically sound combat, Abe’s Oddysee sits in the allowed company of games like Another World and Flashback, feeling thoroughly adventurous despite being, essentially, a platformer. And that, says Lanning, is no coincidence.
“Flashback engaged me more than any other game at the time. It just blew me away. While people were trying to get more of the screen moving, that game put its resources into animation. It did things that felt less like artwork moving about on the screen, which is what Mario was doing, and more like there’s this little guy living in this box, and you’re in control of him. Sherry got excited just by watching it. And she could play it – and she is not a gamer at all – because the pacing was up to her.
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Oh, I'm not disputing the platform gameplay similarity, only that calling the game a "PoP clone with features" seems to underestimate, well, those features. And I think the Oddworld games are much more about those features than the PoP-style platforming. If that makes sense?

Where PoP was essentially an A-B navigation game, the Oddworld games are adventures with objectives, and substantial in-game interaction.
 
OmegaFenix22 said:
BT sells the Fallout Collection for like R140. Is has Fallout 1 & 2 as well as Fallout Tactics. Fallout Tactics was fail but R140 for Fallout 1 & 2 is awesome.
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Would be great but I hardly have time for any one game these days, so I think I'll just get Fallout 2 and spend my time focused on it. Plus it's only like 40 bucks :D.
 
this thread makes me feel old

i`ve also been 'retro' gaming lately with colonization for windows, pharaoh, and settlers 4
 
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UT 2004 is considered retro? Graphics wise things haven't even SIGNIFGIANTLY improved since than. Nothing later than 2002 will I ever consider "retro"
 
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