to0kenZA
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Yeah I know, I just mean that the cheaper PSUs usually aren't good for going to their max marked wattage. But whaaaaatever
A good PC for around 15k?
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Yeah I know, I just mean that the cheaper PSUs usually aren't good for going to their max marked wattage. But whaaaaatever
As promised, dual 6970 setup.
http://www.take2.co.za/wishlistshar...77c2ad755a7820dd1ad70c2792df5ada52t9427061182
IMPORTANT NOTE!!!:
The wishlist wont let me increase quantity on an item, or add duplicate items.
Sooooo.
THAT is a single card wishlist, at R10,841.
The card is R3,701 each.
So add that to the price for a dual 6970 setup.
ie: = R14,542.
Note the PSU is upgraded to an 850W, which should suit the system well, at maximum stress with 101W left for deterioration.
Doesnt leave much room for extra HD or SSD later on.
There also arent that many PSU's available with 4x PCI-E (6/8-pin) plugs.
If you wanna do that (expand later) you would HAVE TO go 1000W PSU, and those push it out of the R15k budget.
Also note the increase to 8GB of RAM to help distribute some of that performance from Dual-GPU better.
This does pose another problem, as you will HAVE TO switch to 64-bit windows, or all that memory is completely WASTED.
Anyway... hope this helps ya on your decisions.
The other way to go is Single card, AMD X6 1090T, SSD, etc.
http://www.take2.co.za/wishlistshar...77c2ad755a7820dd1ad70c2792df5ada52t9427061182
IMPORTANT NOTE!!!:
The wishlist wont let me increase quantity on an item, or add duplicate items.
Sooooo.
THAT is a single card wishlist, at R10,841.
The card is R3,701 each.
So add that to the price for a dual 6970 setup.
ie: = R14,542.
Note the PSU is upgraded to an 850W, which should suit the system well, at maximum stress with 101W left for deterioration.
Doesnt leave much room for extra HD or SSD later on.
There also arent that many PSU's available with 4x PCI-E (6/8-pin) plugs.
If you wanna do that (expand later) you would HAVE TO go 1000W PSU, and those push it out of the R15k budget.
Also note the increase to 8GB of RAM to help distribute some of that performance from Dual-GPU better.
This does pose another problem, as you will HAVE TO switch to 64-bit windows, or all that memory is completely WASTED.
Anyway... hope this helps ya on your decisions.
The other way to go is Single card, AMD X6 1090T, SSD, etc.
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Blaze786
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As promised, dual 6970 setup.
http://www.take2.co.za/wishlistshar...77c2ad755a7820dd1ad70c2792df5ada52t9427061182
IMPORTANT NOTE!!!:
The wishlist wont let me increase quantity on an item, or add duplicate items.
Sooooo.
THAT is a single card wishlist, at R10,841.
The card is R3,701 each.
So add that to the price for a dual 6970 setup.
ie: = R14,542.
Note the PSU is upgraded to an 850W, which should suit the system well, at maximum stress with 101W left for deterioration.
Doesnt leave much room for extra HD or SSD later on.
There also arent that many PSU's available with 4x PCI-E (6/8-pin) plugs.
If you wanna do that (expand later) you would HAVE TO go 1000W PSU, and those push it out of the R15k budget.
Also note the increase to 8GB of RAM to help distribute some of that performance from Dual-GPU better.
This does pose another problem, as you will HAVE TO switch to 64-bit windows, or all that memory is completely WASTED.
Anyway... hope this helps ya on your decisions.
The other way to go is Single card, AMD X6 1090T, SSD, etc.
Its a carp mobo and cpu and the ram is average at best.
Working on a budget sometimes means you can't have the best of the best every time.
The CPU is fine. Black edition. Will outperform the lower-end X6's.
Memory is fine.
Not the best brand, nor the best for overclocking, but again - on budget and no need to overclock was mentioned.
The motherboard is fine.
Enough slots and features to hold the build.
Again, working with budget constraints does mean making sacrifices from time to time.
So, when you're done being a douchy Intel fanboy - recommending faulty chipset boards (sandy bridge) - lets talk again.
to0kenZA
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Was my first choice, but due to crossing the budget, had to go one lower.
EDIT: Scratch that, seems I overcompensated the budget overage by enough on memory to warrant the 965BE...
Truth be told, I would rather up the memory at this point, than the CPU.
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Duke Dude
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I can build you the following.
i7 950
Gigabyte x58 UD7
3 x 2 GB Apogee DDR3 2000mhz
GTX 560 x 2
Antec 1000watt PSU
Haf 932/Haf-x
60GB Mushkin Calisto SSD
2TB for storage
Let me know
When you mention GTX 560 x2 are we talking about SLI?
Otherwise that sounds like a fab build (For Intel). How much would that be mate?
Wow, I leave th forum yesterday and this thread was on 2 pages and looked like it was gonna die. Now I come back and it has 4 pages and some insults
Blaze786
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When you mention GTX 560 x2 are we talking about SLI?
Otherwise that sounds like a fab build (For Intel). How much would that be mate?
Wow, I leave th forum yesterday and this thread was on 2 pages and looked like it was gonna die. Now I come back and it has 4 pages and some insults
Yes sli
Forgot windows, But can throw in a Windows 7 Pro x64bit
Duke Dude
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Yes sli
Cool, GTX 560 x2 performs better than 6970 x2 (From what I read, so I'll go for that). I also have a be bought copy of Win7 Ultimate so its no added cost.
Wouldn't a 2nd gen i7 be better than a first gen though?
Otherwise, how much would you setup be Blaze?
Blaze786
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2nd Gen? You mean like SB, SB not a good idea at the moment.
Pm me and we can chat Duke.
Well, not really.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6970-radeon-hd-6950-cayman,2818-22.html
Summing all that up in short:
Standing alone, the 6900's lack in performance, compared to the Geforce's.
In SLI, the 6900's kick ass every which way you can have an ass kicked.
BUT:
The 6900's are significantly more expensive than the equal GeForce's, and especially in SLi, not everyone would find the extra cost worth it.
Even shorter?
6900's suck standing alone.
6900's beat everything else by miles in SLi.
6900's are more expensive than the rest, possibly not worth the cost difference?
Duke Dude
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to0kenZA
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So it better to get 6970x2?
Lol, I'm not tech savvy so this is getting very foreign!
Dude, all I know is that if you do go for that, you will have one crazy ass PC.
So it better to get 6970x2?
Lol, I'm not tech savvy so this is getting very foreign
Yes and no.
Yes: The performance from 2x 6970 will be better.
No: The price-point to attaining that performance might be too high.
It depends on what you're aiming for tbh.
To put it in another way:
2x 6970 = less money for other parts. (as you might see from my posted builds, some parts are not that awesome)
2x 580's = more money for other parts. (which could see a more consistent performance build overall in your PC)
So in the one setup, you are amping GPU performance at the possible cost of other areas of performance.
In the other setup, you are sacrificing GPU performance for a more rounded performance profile.
Working on a budget always contains such decisions. They're tough, and I know exactly how you feel.
Had to sit and make this exact same decision about 24 hours ago...
IMPORTANT NOTE!
When I talk about the performance GAIN and LOSS between 2x THIS or 2x THAT, you have to realize that the REAL WORLD GAP between the two setups will be around 5% this way or that AT MOST.
So basically, you just need to decide which profile suits you better.
EDIT-IN:
Also to note, that I don't know how long the special for those 6970's will last on Take2.
That special is the ONLY REASON that I could even make that build happen at that price at all...
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to0kenZA
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Dude, just decide on whether you can maybe save up, wait a month longer and you can get those cards. If you do, it would last you much, much longer and you will be glad you did it, in the long run. If you can't save more money, then you gunna have to make do with what you have.
Let me put it this way, I have a Radeon 5850 and it has served me very well so far. I could do with some more performance, but it's not like I'm losing out on any experience in terms of bad performance etc. Those 2 cards combined will be so awesome, the performance will be insane. You will never sit and think, oh wow, this game is running like ass. Crossfire is just in a different league. Getting either the Geforces or the Radeons would both be pretty damn awesome all in itself.
Let me put it this way, I have a Radeon 5850 and it has served me very well so far. I could do with some more performance, but it's not like I'm losing out on any experience in terms of bad performance etc. Those 2 cards combined will be so awesome, the performance will be insane. You will never sit and think, oh wow, this game is running like ass. Crossfire is just in a different league. Getting either the Geforces or the Radeons would both be pretty damn awesome all in itself.
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Duke Dude
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Dude, all I know is that if you do go for that, you will have one crazy ass PC.
What are your specs mate?
Lol, this is getting complicated!
I'll make this easy on both of us: If you had 15-16k what would you machine consist of?
See, now we're entering the arena of personal preference.
Seeing as you asked:
Personally I would USUALLY go for Intel CPU. But with their recent massive chipset failures, they have slided FAR in my confidence rating.
Thus, I would go for AMD CPU.
A lot of people would disagree with the following, and say things like "If you get AMD you have no choice but to get ATi GPU!"
The two are honestly so close to each other, that I would recommend taking the one that best fits the price-point at that moment.
(talking only new parts here) - RIGHT THIS VERY MOMENT, just off Take2 alone, your best bet is the 6970. Single or Dual. The special on that card at the moment is too good to ignore.
Other places might have similar offers on the GTX580, but I haven't seen em. (Not that I stalk those sites 24/7 either, lol)
Those types of choices really do come down to who you feel the most comfortable with spending your moolahs.
AMD or Intel?
ATi or nVidia?
Etc.
EDIT: Either way you go, there will always be someone with snarky comments like "X is better, you should never waste your time with Y's trashy products!)
Pick your comfort, and bugger the rest.
What counts is that you can look at your new toy, and feel shiny and happy.
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