IP exploitation is your fault
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to0kenZA
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Also not anymore and I'm glad to COD FLOPS will be the last CoD game I ever buy. Boycotting MW3? Who cares. Not buying MW3? Hell no. I will not touch that game.
I agree with the writer's general point of view in regards to what gaming can become if people don't stop buying into the whole hype thing, but hopefully most gamers will stop supporting developers that make shit game, even if it's not their fault- it's their responsibility do do something about their situation.
I totally disagree with that. I think for most of them it's not just a job. Please watch the video on this website and then tell me this guy is not passionate about making games.
I agree with the writer's general point of view in regards to what gaming can become if people don't stop buying into the whole hype thing, but hopefully most gamers will stop supporting developers that make shit game, even if it's not their fault- it's their responsibility do do something about their situation.
Tarryn van der Byl said:
I totally disagree with that. I think for most of them it's not just a job. Please watch the video on this website and then tell me this guy is not passionate about making games.
Lycanthrope
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"Do you buy games just because of the name?"
Quite simply, no.
Gothic was a prime example - I loved the series right up until Arcania but no amount of label-marketing would ever have convinced me to buy that shoddy excuse of a game. But then, I'm a connoisseur and not someone who takes whatever rubbish is proffered
A label will naturally pique my interest but that doesn't necessarily mean it will win me over.
Fallout 3 is another prime example of label-marketing--it had little-to-nothing to do with the original games, no mention of past events, of the NCR; the Brotherhood of Steel didn't hold a single philosophy original to the first games. It sold because it was Oblivion with guns; not because it was a formidable RPG.
Quite simply, no.
Gothic was a prime example - I loved the series right up until Arcania but no amount of label-marketing would ever have convinced me to buy that shoddy excuse of a game. But then, I'm a connoisseur and not someone who takes whatever rubbish is proffered
A label will naturally pique my interest but that doesn't necessarily mean it will win me over.
Fallout 3 is another prime example of label-marketing--it had little-to-nothing to do with the original games, no mention of past events, of the NCR; the Brotherhood of Steel didn't hold a single philosophy original to the first games. It sold because it was Oblivion with guns; not because it was a formidable RPG.
Azimuth
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I said "for many", not "for all". And I said it because it's true. I was talking to a guy at a party the other day who worked in sound design for Rockstar for a couple of years. He's passionate about sound design, he doesn't play video games.
shadowfox
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Nope ... Modern Warfare was the last ... and I bought that only a few months after its initial release. With regards to MW2 - when I said I was boycotting and not buying the game, I actually MEANT that. And based on the comments flying around the web, I was going to be joined by hundreds if not thousands of fellow gamers. We were going to make our voices heard.
And much to my dismay, MW2 released - and most of the gamers who swore not to buy slobbered their way to the nearest store to paw their copy off the shelf. Willpower ... awesome stuff. When you have any. And because of that, we now have Black Ops, which those same gamers are now crying themselves to sleep about. They need to deal with it - they're the ones giving twerps like Kotick the power. If Activision started losing money, he wouldn't be staying in his position for very long.
Of course, my boycott of Activision products is mostly a protest based around the presence of Kotick. But my decision stands, until the day he leaves for good, Activision won't see a cent of my hard-earned dosh.
Now if you will excuse me, I'm off to search for more GW2 hype
And much to my dismay, MW2 released - and most of the gamers who swore not to buy slobbered their way to the nearest store to paw their copy off the shelf. Willpower ... awesome stuff. When you have any. And because of that, we now have Black Ops, which those same gamers are now crying themselves to sleep about. They need to deal with it - they're the ones giving twerps like Kotick the power. If Activision started losing money, he wouldn't be staying in his position for very long.
Of course, my boycott of Activision products is mostly a protest based around the presence of Kotick. But my decision stands, until the day he leaves for good, Activision won't see a cent of my hard-earned dosh.
Now if you will excuse me, I'm off to search for more GW2 hype
Duke Dude
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I will admit that I do sometimes fall victim to the hype machine (Last game was Blops) but those days are over! I won't say that I'll never buy another CoD ever again, from now on the only CoD game I'll buy will be from Infinity Ward. That is until we have to start paying to play it online!
Sou1Co11ector
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The last time I was really Hyped was back in 2002 when Duke Nukem For(N)ever had a release date for June of that year...
Then my whole life got shattered...
Then my whole life got shattered...
shadowfox
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Infinity Ward is a mere shell of what it used to be - with a large bunch of their developers and designers having left, either for other companies, or to join the original leads at Respawn.
I have to question Activision's decision to go ahead with MW3 - if they lose the pending courtcase and the IP goes back to the original owners, Activision are going to be paying millions.
HavocXphere
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Not my fault. I canceled my preorder. *Angry stares at random people.*
I blame the console crowd. After all that crap Activision pulled (no lean, no console, no dedicated)...the console crowd shoots the sales for the game sky-high guaranteeing that Activision pull will stunts like that from that day onward....which they duly did...behold BO.
Edit: Funny how sales figures and the poll results don't correlate even remotely. So either this forum is full of wise people or people are bullshtting themselves.
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Raven Gold
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Nope ... Modern Warfare was the last ... and I bought that only a few months after its initial release. With regards to MW2 - when I said I was boycotting and not buying the game, I actually MEANT that. And based on the comments flying around the web, I was going to be joined by hundreds if not thousands of fellow gamers. We were going to make our voices heard.
And much to my dismay, MW2 released - and most of the gamers who swore not to buy slobbered their way to the nearest store to paw their copy off the shelf. Willpower ... awesome stuff. When you have any. And because of that, we now have Black Ops, which those same gamers are now crying themselves to sleep about. They need to deal with it - they're the ones giving twerps like Kotick the power. If Activision started losing money, he wouldn't be staying in his position for very long.
Of course, my boycott of Activision products is mostly a protest based around the presence of Kotick. But my decision stands, until the day he leaves for good, Activision won't see a cent of my hard-earned dosh.
Now if you will excuse me, I'm off to search for more GW2 hype
Word up sistah! W@W Was the last proper CoD game. Too bad the servers died.
THQ and 2K are now the last 2 shining stars for me.
Azimuth
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I dunno about lean (I've always been pretty indifferent about it, even on PC), but it's worth bearing in mind that a console and dedicated servers are completely irrelevant to console gamers.
It's also worth bearing in mind that, generally speaking, multiplatform titles sell faaaaaaaaaaar more on console than PC. Can you really blame devs and publishers for catering to their biggest market?
shadowfox
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Word up sistah! W@W Was the last proper CoD game. Too bad the servers died.
THQ and 2K are now the last 2 shining stars for me.
Yes Raven ... but when I boycott a game by not buying it, I don't go around pirating the damn thing.
And sistah ... is kinda inappropriate ... I'm male. Don't let my avi fool you (although it apparently managed to do this quite well)
Duke Dude
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That may be the case but I don't think so... This is a chance for all the new/and remaining employees to make their mark on the series and it might actually rise from the ashes! I do secretly hope that Activision lose this court case because I don't want CoD in the hands of that wanker Kotick!
I have to question Activision's decision to go ahead with MW3 - if they lose the pending courtcase and the IP goes back to the original owners, Activision are going to be paying millions.
Duke Dude
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Word up sistah! W@W Was the last proper CoD game. Too bad the servers died.
THQ and 2K are now the last 2 shining stars for me.
You forgot Blizzard!
shadowfox
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Activision Blizzard are one company
Although I believe Blizzard has a controlling share ... no idea how the deal was set up. But paying Blizzard anything means I'm putting money in Kotick's pockets ... I find the idea repelling. So no Diablo III for me.With regards to the current IW being able to push the franchise ... I'm not so sure. Any mass exodus from a studio, especially when it loses staff that was completely central to the development of a particular title tends to take a great deal of wind out of the sails. And at the moment, IW is being headed by people Kotick put in place, which means they're going to be dancing to whatever tune he chooses to sing.
My memory's a bit fuzzy, but I seem to remember a major studio losing a big bunch of staff in a similar fashion - and they just never amounted to anything after that. Anyone else remember?
Raven Gold
Local Boy Hunter
Blizzard = Actiwhores partner
Raven Gold
Local Boy Hunter
Activision Blizzard are one company
With regards to the current IW being able to push the franchise ... I'm not so sure. Any mass exodus from a studio, especially when it loses staff that was completely central to the development of a particular title tends to take a great deal of wind out of the sails. And at the moment, IW is being headed by people Kotick put in place, which means they're going to be dancing to whatever tune he chooses to sing.
My memory's a bit fuzzy, but I seem to remember a major studio losing a big bunch of staff in a similar fashion - and they just never amounted to anything after that. Anyone else remember?
Westwood. May ye rest in peace.
Duke Dude
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Activision Blizzard are one company
With regards to the current IW being able to push the franchise ... I'm not so sure. Any mass exodus from a studio, especially when it loses staff that was completely central to the development of a particular title tends to take a great deal of wind out of the sails. And at the moment, IW is being headed by people Kotick put in place, which means they're going to be dancing to whatever tune he chooses to sing.
My memory's a bit fuzzy, but I seem to remember a major studio losing a big bunch of staff in a similar fashion - and they just never amounted to anything after that. Anyone else remember?
They may be one company (I knew that
!) but you don't see Activision rushing the release of Diablo III now do you? They've even announced a console version so that means another 1-2 years before we get a release date (Imo). So I still trust Blizzard 