Solid State vs Conventional HDDs
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Toxin
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Haven't tried SSD drives yet, but I won't be buying one anytime soon. Sure Windows and Games load faster, but other than that what do you get? 
Then there's the price per Gig....... I honestly just can't justify paying that much just so that programs load faster. If anything I'd rather go for one of the new VelociRaptor drives at half the price and twice the space.
Then there's the price per Gig....... I honestly just can't justify paying that much just so that programs load faster. If anything I'd rather go for one of the new VelociRaptor drives at half the price and twice the space.
frank007
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This will better explain. You are also not going to be using an SSD to store all your movies and music. The amount of time you save is amazing. The response time of your pc is also just awesome, everything you do is faster on the pc. Virus scan is done in 5min instead of hours, opening outlook is instant, multitasking is insane. Ask someone with a SSD to show you the performance. You will never believe until you see it!
czc
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Found this to see how to add some steam games to an SSD
http://www.overclock.net/ssd/825342-moving-steam-games-onto-your-ssd.html
http://www.overclock.net/ssd/825342-moving-steam-games-onto-your-ssd.html
Kuga
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Hopefully gonna be getting 2 of those as well July/August
KEK! Yep yep. I was always skeptical about it.. till my hardware dealer allowed me to loan one for a week... I bought it from him within 30 minutes after installing Windows and few games. It's insane. Seriously. One of the best investments you will ever make.
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Toxin
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Yeah I guess, but it still doesn't seem worth the price to me.
10-20 seconds faster into Win/games plus way faster searches, AltTabbing out of games and Virus Scans......
All for the low low price of R3000........ for 120GB........ IMHO it's a nice to have.
I'll wait for the prices to drop.
10-20 seconds faster into Win/games plus way faster searches, AltTabbing out of games and Virus Scans......
All for the low low price of R3000........ for 120GB........ IMHO it's a nice to have.
I'll wait for the prices to drop.
Prometheus
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Each to their own opinion. I agree with Gillan. Windows already caches the files I use most often so the more ram it has to do this the better and it can use it for programs as well and not just for storage. Unless I can use it fort ram, which I think would cause it to degrade too fast, it's simply not worth it for me at the current price.
Maybe some people just can't live with having to wait 1 minute for their os to load or to copy a file or do a virus scan in the background but for me once a day it's really not all that much.
If anyone "must" have one the OCZ revodrive 120GB for R3500 looks good. Must have an empty PCIex4 slot.
AcidRaZor
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You really can't go back to a normal drive once you've had SSD. Specific to "increasing the FPS" I don't see how that is relevant anymore in this day and age considering your graphics cards have more RAM on them than a system running Quake 2 back in the day would have ever dreamed of having (and the reason why drive speed used to be a factor)
Yes, it's a "nice to have" if you're looking at it from a storage point of view. But it's almost damned near REQUIRED if your day-job depends on it AND you'd like to use your rig for gaming. Dump all your porn on your 1tb drives you have installed and use the SSD for your apps/games.
It's also not required to buy a R3500 version.... you get cheaper ones which are just as fast and have almost the same storage capacity.
Yes, it's a "nice to have" if you're looking at it from a storage point of view. But it's almost damned near REQUIRED if your day-job depends on it AND you'd like to use your rig for gaming. Dump all your porn on your 1tb drives you have installed and use the SSD for your apps/games.
It's also not required to buy a R3500 version.... you get cheaper ones which are just as fast and have almost the same storage capacity.
Prometheus
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The R3500 one is actually not a drive, it's a memory card. You plug it into your PCIe slot. It's actually 2 separate "drives" connected through a raid controller functioning as one. Average read/write speeds are more than double that of conventional SATA drives.
Future of storage once the price comes down by about 50x and the reliability gets on par with magnetic drives.
Kuga
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Ahh the OCZ from the new PCF eh?
Yeah look, those WILL be quicker than SATA3. The bandwidth is just rediculious(sp). But a conventional SSD using SATA is still bloody quick compared to a mechanical drive.
Think mechanical drive as > VW Beetle
SATA SSD > Ferrari
PCIe SSD > Bugatti Veron. (Think it's still the worlds fastest production to date? )
frank007
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Here is a brand new article for Tom's Hardware. Best SSDs For The Money: May 2011
AcidRaZor
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Ah sorry, didn't see it was different; Was referencing normal SSD's
The reliability, to me anyway, is on par (if not better) than magnetic drives. I've seen a dude grab a bunch of SSD's in RAID and, while connected tot he PC and actively doing stuff, jump on a trampoline making them crash against each other. Do THAT with a magnetic drive and you're sure to lose some data, if not cause permanent damage
TBlaar
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Frank, you have the OCZ Vertex 2's now, in a striped raid? NICE! (PS: If this is true, your sig is outdated ) I want your EXACT rig!!!
How do you raid your drives, does the MB do the Raid (HW) or do you have a raid adapter, or does the software handle the raid (via some app in your OS?)
Another thing people need to remember, is that if you are going to stripe drives, then 2 x 60GBs will give you 120 GB usable space, so you don't need to go out and buy the 250GB drive which is helluva expensive. Also, with Raiding these drives, you get the speed increase of having more that striping gives you, on top of the SSD performance... then you only need to have them running on SATA3.... yummy...
) I want your EXACT rig!!!How do you raid your drives, does the MB do the Raid (HW) or do you have a raid adapter, or does the software handle the raid (via some app in your OS?)
Another thing people need to remember, is that if you are going to stripe drives, then 2 x 60GBs will give you 120 GB usable space, so you don't need to go out and buy the 250GB drive which is helluva expensive. Also, with Raiding these drives, you get the speed increase of having more that striping gives you, on top of the SSD performance... then you only need to have them running on SATA3.... yummy...
frank007
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Frank, you have the OCZ Vertex 2's now, in a striped raid? NICE! (PS: If this is true, your sig is outdated
How do you raid your drives, does the MB do the Raid (HW) or do you have a raid adapter, or does the software handle the raid (via some app in your OS?)
Another thing people need to remember, is that if you are going to stripe drives, then 2 x 60GBs will give you 120 GB usable space, so you don't need to go out and buy the 250GB drive which is helluva expensive. Also, with Raiding these drives, you get the speed increase of having more that striping gives you, on top of the SSD performance... then you only need to have them running on SATA3.... yummy...
haha. No dude, i don't have the OCZ drives yet man. I am going to get the OCZ Vertex 3's 120GB in September. I have got 2x Intel drives at the moment. My mobo runs my raid for me. When i get the new OCZ drives i will be using the SATA3 ports on my board and i will also raid them in raid0. I should get about 1000MB/s read on them i hope. I have seen reviews of the Intel 510 drives in raid0 getting that and the OCZ drives are faster so i hope i get that and more.
There are a couple of raids that it can run on my board. I am running Raid0 so it is striped so it uses both drives space =80GB (less than that but you know that) and it also has a massive performance increase almost double. What this does is it splits the information over the 2 drives, if you lose one of the drives or it fails then all the information is gone. If i had to run raid1 then its called a mirror where you lose the space on one drive =40GB with no real performance increase. What this does is it copies what you are writing to both drive equally, so if one fails your system still runs until you fix it, it's used on servers or for people that cannot lose data. You get other raids but these are the popular ones.
frank007
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I prefer my Hard drives to be those 2.5 or 3.5" beauts. You can raid 2x Vertex3 sata3 SSD's and get the same performance or even more than out of the PCI-e equivalent. So that is why i say i like those beauts.