Solid State vs Conventional HDDs

what do you mean it does not bypass the SATAII problem? If you raid enough drives you can get the same speeds. 1GB/s read.

This video is quite old and the SSD's were quite small but very interesting.

 
Yeah, but all you are doing is multiplying SATAII interfaces. The interface cannot go faster due to raid. So you can only get the speeds of SATAIII using more drives than you would with SATAIII.
 
I agree with you SATAIII is better. I have SATAIII but there are people that don't. All that was there for was to prove you dont need SATAIII for super fast hard drive speeds.
 
I'm happy with my Raid-0 but for my next upgrade will definately go SSD. A friend bought one and its quite noticeable as he wasn't Raid-0 but my Raid-0 is very quick to load and like you say you don't pay the premium. Maybe wait for Ivy bridge boards and better SATA tech to go mainstream. Intel Thunderbolt is coming in a year or two.
 
btw, RAID 10 is something you should aim for. It stripes and mirror's the data so you get the performance boost with the reliability that if a drive fails you won't lose everything. I use that in most of my server setup's

I'd also splurge on a decent RAID card with battery backup and not go with the mobo one. That shit flies...
 
Kuga said:
Just buy an SSD. If you already have a GTX 580 or whatever, while running a normal hard drive, you are bottle necking your pc. So just buy an SSD. Do it.

HYBRID DRIVES ARE A WASTE OF TIME AND ARE SHIT!! Don't even bother, seriously.
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Well I don't, I have a 9600gt which was a gift from family in U.S.A. In fact, the only thing I paid for in my pc was the case(raidmax), aftermarket cpu cooler(the huge zalman 9700, i think) and the 600w psu. This was 3 years ago. This year I finally got myself a biggish harddrive (1TB) for R669. So now I am storing a few movies and series. I can only afford a SSD once they go mainstream and cost around the same price for the amount of storage space it gives as the HDD brethrens. Unless offcourse I'm given one:D
 
AcidRaZor said:
btw, RAID 10 is something you should aim for. It stripes and mirror's the data so you get the performance boost with the reliability that if a drive fails you won't lose everything. I use that in most of my server setup's

I'd also splurge on a decent RAID card with battery backup and not go with the mobo one. That shit flies...
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Here's an interesting question for you.

If you had to Raid 1 an SSD with a normal drive, would the SSD slow down because of the mechanical drive?

What I've done at the moment is use Windows Backup to do a daily backup on a 400gb drive. And I have my Windows repair disc at hand.

Ap0calyps3 said:
Well I don't, I have a 9600gt which was a gift from family in U.S.A. In fact, the only thing I paid for in my pc was the case(raidmax), aftermarket cpu cooler(the huge zalman 9700, i think) and the 600w psu. This was 3 years ago. This year I finally got myself a biggish harddrive (1TB) for R669. So now I am storing a few movies and series. I can only afford a SSD once they go mainstream and cost around the same price for the amount of storage space it gives as the HDD brethrens. Unless offcourse I'm given one:D
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I've just built up a NAS device for storage with 6 x 2 TB drives. Hopefully space won't be an issue for a while. Heh.
 
Kuga said:
Here's an interesting question for you.

If you had to Raid 1 an SSD with a normal drive, would the SSD slow down because of the mechanical drive?

What I've done at the moment is use Windows Backup to do a daily backup on a 400gb drive. And I have my Windows repair disc at hand.



I've just built up a NAS device for storage with 6 x 2 TB drives. Hopefully space won't be an issue for a while. Heh.
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What speeds are you getting to and from your NAS? What kind of network are you running it on?
 
Raid requires identical drives. Raid1 (mirroring) will write at the speed of the slower drive but on retrieval it will be the speed of the fastest drive.

This is if it operates correctly. Many controllers get it wrong so you should try match speeds.
 
Kuga said:
Think mechanical drive as > VW Beetle
SATA SSD > Ferrari
PCIe SSD > Bugatti Veron. (Think it's still the worlds fastest production to date? )
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There you have it, I only need a beetle right now.

I would like to have an SSD for now the price per gig does not justify it. If you can afford one then go for it but there are other things I can spend the money on that would make more sense.

DarthSWNT said:
Raid requires identical drives.
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Not really. It should take the size of the smallest drive so if you raid a 1TB and a 2TB it will be 2TB total and you'll lose 1GB. It could be problematic with drives of different sector sizes like the SSDs.
 
Prometheus said:
Not really. It should take the size of the smallest drive so if you raid a 1TB and a 2TB it will be 2TB total and you'll lose 1GB. It could be problematic with drives of different sector sizes like the SSDs.
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Is that not a problem to you? Losing 1TB seems an awful waste, hence my sentiment as i don't think anyone would use such a configuration unless the difference was immaterial.

IF you use anything but identical drives, there is always going to be some loss of efficiency. Yes it is possible to use non-identical drives, but I don't believe ,in computing, any person would willingly lose efficiency in such a manner.
 
DarthSWNT said:
Is that not a problem to you? Losing 1TB seems an awful waste, hence my sentiment as i don't think anyone would use such a configuration unless the difference was immaterial.

IF you use anything but identical drives, there is always going to be some loss of efficiency. Yes it is possible to use non-identical drives, but I don't believe ,in computing, any person would willingly lose efficiency in such a manner.
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Yes it would be a problem, but not impossible as you yourself say.

In a likely situation an identical drive may not be available to replace an old drive and then only a similar one can be used that may be a few sectors larger. My example was only chosen to make it easy to understand how it works and I don't think anybody would choose such an elaborate setup.
 
Prometheus said:
Yes it would be a problem, but not impossible as you yourself say.

In a likely situation an identical drive may not be available to replace an old drive and then only a similar one can be used that may be a few sectors larger. My example was only chosen to make it easy to understand how it works and I don't think anybody would choose such an elaborate setup.
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True, but then you will see performance problems. Size is not everything you know :P
 
I see a lot of OCZ SSD's in people's sig rigs... If I went SSD it would definately have to be noticeably quick than my Raid0. Some of these 500R and 500W drives are pretty good.
 
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