Guild Wars 2

Guys.You are wasting your time and breath, really trust me on that.

Some Facts/Tips:
1.Petitions won't help, not even a little bit.Maybe 1 in a 1000 works sometimes.Any tit with a DSL line can create a petition and since the days of broadband most people/companies IGNORE petitions.
2.An MMO is hosted very differently than regular game servers.As with A-Net and NCSoft and most MMO Devs the servers are hosted in trusted, purpose built data centers.
3.The cost involved would be substantial.
4.Spamming forums won't help, most already know about the game, it will not change anything whatsoever.
5.You are going about it entirely the wrong way.Do not contact them first, contact someone IN THIS COUNTRY first who have the capabilities to host something so monumental.
6.Remember that the systems are different than regular game servers, if a shard or realm gets hosted it would have to maintain a minimum number of players at all times to be viable.
7.You are looking at maybe 10 000 active guild wars 2 players at the time of launch in South Africa, that is high-balling it as well.
Other countries have thousands upon thousands upon thousands of players, making hosting for the larger groups more viable.
8.Remember it works not for A SPECIFIC country but for a central hub for more than one country.And South Africa is low on the list of being a central hub for anything.

Not to be a naysayer.You guys need to stop this before you start spamming already busy developers with pointless things like this.Rather instead play the game first, test it,if SA players have difficulty playing(which I doubt) then give it a shot.The game is in Beta Stage, hold off on the guns until after release.
 
A petition on change.org won't be the place to place it, as it deals more with human rights, animal rights etc. I will find an alternative site for the petition.

I also think rather than request it for just South Africa, I will request that they host the servers in South Africa to allow other countries in Africa the chance to connect to it as well.
 
Sou1Co11ector said:
I also think rather than request it for just South Africa, I will request that they host the servers in South Africa to allow other countries in Africa the chance to connect to it as well.
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Again ... somewhat pointless. South Africa will have the largest concentration of players, Botswana, Zambia and Namibia will probably contribute maybe about 10% above that - but no other country. Countries north of the Sahara with broadband would be better off connecting to Europe.
 
You guys are probably right :). But, still Im going to do what I have asked 3 people from Arenanet a while ago regarding closer servers for lower pings, all of which told me I should suggest that when the Beta is available. I may have been told BS to just make me happier, but still its worth a loooooong shot just suggesting that :D
 
ChameleonDevil said:
You guys are probably right :). But, still Im going to do what I have asked 3 people from Arenanet a while ago regarding closer servers for lower pings, all of which told me I should suggest that when the Beta is available. I may have been told BS to just make me happier, but still its worth a loooooong shot just suggesting that :D
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Well suggest it or ask them does not hurt anyone, if they say no, then be it :) I am tweeting them about it as well.

The best time is now while they plan on BETA.
 
Isengard said:
Even if we did get servers here I wouldn't use it. I wan't the high player volumes that Europe has to offer.
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It's not like the latency is insanely bad either - sure, we're at a slight disadvantage in PvP, but at the same time I've never had a problem competing back when I was playing on 3G - and latencies there were in the 600 - 800ms range. Nowadays I have 200 - 300 on average.
 
I'd rather have 250ms ping and people to play with than a 25ms ping and playing by myself. SA would probably have 1000-3000 players max which isn't enough to sustain a suitable number of concurrent users.
 
Wet blankets and don't want to be naysayers, so is there any harm in putting up a petition where we request ArenaNet and/or NCSoft to consider providing servers for Africa in South African Data Centres in either Jo'burg or Cape Town...?

Once it is up you won't be wasting your breath, just taking 1 minute to fill out a few fields and clicking sign, not hard and if they don't give us a server, fine, but can I at least count on you to fill in 4 or 5 fields and clicking a button for this?
 
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MOnk said:
I'd rather have 250ms ping and people to play with than a 25ms ping and playing by myself. SA would probably have 1000-3000 players max which isn't enough to sustain a suitable number of concurrent users.
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It's not about how many players will be on servers, it's more bout how mutch can a server handle i heard rumors SWTOR can only handle 3000 a server and that will fill up easy in South Africa, I hosted Local Private WoW servers and got a server with nearly 1000 Players if that server was official would probally get easy 5000+ players on it.

But again it depends how mutch a server can handle, if those Guild Wars 2 server can handle 10 000+ a Realm then i would rather play EU servers myself, but if it can only handle 3000 then we can surely have some servers in South Africa as well and easy fill those up, you will be supprised how many locals play MMORPG's
 
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The petition has been created, but I will only share the link once the beta selections have been made and at least 1 beta weekend has been completed, if I get in and the lag is horrifying I will be making this petition link available to all and posting it everywhere for support.
 
@Monk and @shadowfox, that is IF you get 250ms and if the ping whatever we get will be playable in PvP. Its got more action based combat, so in PvP that ping could make a large difference, definitely more of a difference than non-active non-dodging content would be.
 
Okay so I gather that what we are doing is a sacrilege and blasphemy the way you are going on about this. I already stated that I will hold off on making the petition link public, until after the beta weekends and only if I had access to them.

Is it so wrong for us to do this? To request them to consider a server for an entire continent?

Clarify this for me, please?
 
@Spartan, yeah you may have more background than the rest of us regarding hosting, but these people INCLUDING me are just saying it is worth a try, so we have heard your points (obviously not all according to you) that it is a futile attempt. It doesnt break us, or even break our internet, or prevent us from playing GW2. I would just like a lower ping experience, that is all. YES WE KNOW THAT YOU SAY ITS POINTLESS, we have heard it thank you. Other people are just trying, thats all, waste of time maybe but its not as if hundreds of thousands of hours are wasted ;/
 
Sou1Co11ector said:
Okay so I gather that what we are doing is a sacrilege and blasphemy the way you are going on about this. I already stated that I will hold off on making the petition link public, until after the beta weekends and only if I had access to them.

Is it so wrong for us to do this? To request them to consider a server for an entire continent?

Clarify this for me, please?
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ChameleonDevil said:
@Spartan, yeah you may have more background than the rest of us regarding hosting, but these people INCLUDING me are just saying it is worth a try, so we have heard your points (obviously not all according to you) that it is a futile attempt. It doesnt break us, or even break our internet, or prevent us from playing GW2. I would just like a lower ping experience, that is all. YES WE KNOW THAT YOU SAY ITS POINTLESS, we have heard it thank you. Other people are just trying, thats all, waste of time maybe but its not as if hundreds of thousands of hours are wasted ;/
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Spartan will have a better understanding of the technical details, but I'll take a swipe at it:

First off - MMOs, as Spartan already said, aren't hosted in the same way as any other game. When people talk about a server (or a shard), they're not talking about a single box, but an entire cluster of boxes, if not an entire server farm.

Secondly - the requirements to run a game like GW2 is going to be pretty intense. So we're talking top-of-the-line boxes here.

Thirdly - bandwidth and data usage. It would require pretty much the same kind of capacity as any of our local datacenters. This also includes negotiating with local ISPs and setting up agreements to get this sort of thing running.

Fourth - Staffing and support; this overlaps with my 3rd point to some degree. They can't plop this down in any of our local datacenters and expect the staff there to handle things. There would need to be a full-time complement of ANet/NC staffers here. Given that they have no presence in SA, this would mean building their own datacenters and offices, negotiating with local service providers ... the costs involved in setting up and training staff would be insane.

Every MMO in existence has their own server clusters that they host themselves, and there's a reason for it.

ArenaNet and NC don't have the kind of cash lying around that Blizzard has, for instance, and how much luck has there been in getting an official WoW server running? Absolutely none.

Even if we get 10,000 players locally (which is optimistic), and they all buy the game, turnover will amount to about R5kk (I'm rounding the price of the game off at R500) - which won't even be a fraction of the cost of setting up down here.

I'm not saying sacrilege and blasphemy - but I just see it as a pointless effort. And not one I'm particularly drawn to.
 
If you want to give it a shot then go for it.No one is stopping you, I was sharing my view on the subject.That gamers sometimes think it is as easy as making a petition and spamming.All in all that is the best way NOT to do it.You will piss off the dev with the spam and the petition is about the same as pissing into a hurricane.

I gave you an idea of how it works, I do not claim to know more about these things than anyone else, I speak only from experience having dealt with "HOST A LOCAL WOW SERVER!!!@!@!@!@" and many "ideas and projects" like this one over the course of my career.

It is the honest truth.And what shadowfox said is also true.That is how it works.

But good luck.The other things I choose not to share are personal feelings regarding some matters and would be very unpleasant to troll with.
 
O my fok nee, rerig... ek gee op. I said I know what the implications are, its been pointed out by Spartan and you again thank you for that shadowfox :p

We KNOW its going to be hard, its pointless thank you. In other news, I am still going to ask just for the sake of asking, because I want lower pings; I want to play on a more level field; dont want to dodge after 0.5 seconds only for the dodge to not register fast enough and being spiked to death by 70 Mesmer beams, and then hearing some rantings about the lag from everyone here. Saying like you said that 800-1000ms will not have an impact, well for the moment until I have tried it I still say the possibiliy is there that it will have a huge impact (Larger in other games, think FPS games...).
 
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