Is Mass Effect 3’s Controversial DLC Your Fault?

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Games are a passion and a hobby for millions of players worldwide. As is clear from even the most cursory glance at the comments on any post here at Kotaku, gamers feel very strongly about their content and its makers.

They are also a business. An exceptionally large, very valuable business. The most recent ESA report [pdf] asserts that American consumers spend over $25 billion dollars annually on gaming.


So where is the wall where gamers ultimately rebel against adding to those billions? The upcoming release of Mass Effect 3, featuring controversial day one DLC, is proving to be a fertile ground for the argument.


Forbes, a business- and economics-focused publication, is not where one would ordinarily look for gaming news. And yet it is there that a contributor makes the economically-focused argument that players have created the seemingly endless problems with DLC themselves, by proving — angry words aside — willing to keep paying for it:

The truth is, if items like map packs, DLC missions and pre-order bonuses didn't sell, they wouldn't exist. Plain and simple. With each new bold "affront" to gamers, these companies are testing the waters to see just how far they can go with an a-la-carte model. Do you think if no one had ever bought the first Call of Duty map pack, that they would have kept making more? Now the game sells $1B worth of $60 copies in two weeks, with every player knowing full well that twelve more maps will be coming in another three packs for an additional $45.

He then admits that he personally finds the Mass Effect 3 DLC to be a good enough investment to pay for, and that he looks forward to playing it, but concludes:

All this said, there is a limit. Eventually companies will find a breaking point where they are simply taking too much away from games and charging too much on top of the original price so that it drives consumers away. As soon as the numbers stop adding up, the practice will reach a plateau. The problem is that we're not there yet, and though each new step forward takes us a little closer to that cutoff line, we simply haven't shown these companies that what they've done is truly that hurtful to us. If it was, these products and games simply would not sell, and the practice would be scaled back. And that isn't what's happening.

Every player's individual limits are, of course, in a different place. Some fans will pay nearly any price for their favorite franchise right at launch, while others prefer to wait a year or more and purchase fully collected editions on sale for half price. But even while many will quite accurately shout, "It's not my fault, I haven't played along, I'm not buying it all," it's clear that there's something to the argument that enough players still do.

The $50 price point for new games fell by the wayside with the rise of the current console generation. $60 has come to be fully tolerated and $70 looks not to be the straw that will break the metaphorical camel's back. Where, then, will we see new game prices finally plateau?

Source: Kotaku

If anyone posts that Spoiler here I will hunt them down, cut their legs off, set their house on fire and then do my lunatic laugh as they drag their bloody stumps out of the burning house.
 
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Me3 standard edition = R290
Any other game's standard edition = R350

ME3 CE = R370
Any other game's CE = upwards of R500

Not only that, but have people seen what the CE includes? For that price it's an absolute steal.

I honestly don't see the issue with this. You pay more, you get more. It's not like the extra squad member is going to hinder you from playing the game to its fullest if you don't have him.

Also, someone already spoiled the squad member surprise for me (and it fucking sucked that they did) so if anyone posts the spoiler in here, I hope you die a very, very painful death.

Edit: Although, I agree with the article. I just don't think it's entirely applicable to ME3.
 
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Me3 standard edition = R290
Any other game's standard edition = R350

ME3 CE = R370
Any other game's CE = upwards of R500

Not only that, but have people seen what the CE includes? For that price it's an absolute steal.

I honestly don't see the issue with this. You pay more, you get more. It's not like the extra squad member is going to hinder you from playing the game to its fullest if you don't have him.

Also, someone already spoiled the squad member surprise for me (and it fucking sucked that they did) so if anyone posts the spoiler in here, I hope you die a very, very painful death.

Edit: Although, I agree with the article. I just don't think it's entirely applicable to ME3.


Im with you Dude. The pricing of ME3, Like The Witcher 2, is very competitive and the extra stuffs you get with ME3's Collectors Edition is just that, EXTRA. If you want it pay for it. However what the article says is very true, problem is people seem to be incapable of knowing when they are being taken for a ride *cough*MW3*cough* and when they are getting a decent deal.
 
If anyone posts that Spoiler here I will hunt them down, cut their legs off, set their house on fire and then do my lunatic laugh as they drag their bloody stumps out of the burning house.

I've already read the spoiler, much to my chagrin. Especially when certain articles by certain well-known publications start their articles with, "The controversial XXXXXXX character in the Ashes DLC..."

Hats off to Kotaku for putting up spoiler tags before writing about the contents... If only others (Escapist, GameSpot) had the decency to do the same.

Assholes.
 
Surely you can't compare ME3 CE with something like witcher 2 CE. Of course witcher 2 CE is going to be more than just R370 considering what you got, I'd take a good bet that ME3 CE's artbook isn't in the same league as Skyrims A4 coffee table art book is...

Me3 standard edition = R290
Any other game's standard edition = R350

ME3 CE = R370
Any other game's CE = upwards of R500

Not only that, but have people seen what the CE includes? For that price it's an absolute steal.

I honestly don't see the issue with this. You pay more, you get more. It's not like the extra squad member is going to hinder you from playing the game to its fullest if you don't have him.

Also, someone already spoiled the squad member surprise for me (and it fucking sucked that they did) so if anyone posts the spoiler in here, I hope you die a very, very painful death.

Edit: Although, I agree with the article. I just don't think it's entirely applicable to ME3.
 
Surely you can't compare ME3 CE with something like witcher 2 CE. Of course witcher 2 CE is going to be more than just R370 considering what you got, I'd take a good bet that ME3 CE's artbook isn't in the same league as Skyrims A4 coffee table art book is...

Oh, definitely not. But pricewise, ME3's CE is the best value-for-money you can get. Especially when you look at the amount of extras in it. I mean, it costs just barely more than your average standard edition preorder.

*Premium metal case featuring commemorative artwork of Commander Shepard.
*70-page hardbound art book featuring hundreds of unique and gorgeous illustrations from the BioWare development team.
*Limited edition Mass Effect comic by Dark Horse Comics, complete with unique cover artwork.
*Join the ranks of the N7 with the premium fabric N7 patch.
*Exclusive 4x6 lithographic print featuring a one-of-a-kind piece of artwork.
*A full collection of in-game content that can’t be found anywhere else!
*N7 Arsenal Pack – Bring the firepower with the N7 Sniper Rifle, Shotgun, SMG, and Pistol.
*Access to an additional downloadable mission and character
*Mechdog Companion – A faithful sidekick to keep you company on board the Normandy.
*Squadipmate Alternate Outfit Pack – New appearances for your favorite squad members.
*N7 Hoodie – For Commander Shepard’s casual days on board the Normandy.
*Relive all the greatest moments of Mass Effect 3 with the digital soundtrack.
*Xbox LIVE Normandy prop for your Avatar. (Available on Xbox 360 version only.)
*Display your initiation in the N7 ranks with a collection of forum and social badges, avatars, and perks.

It's pretty good value for money.

Remember, both The Witcher 2 CE and Skyrim CE was almost or over R1000. ;)
 
Surely you can't compare ME3 CE with something like witcher 2 CE. Of course witcher 2 CE is going to be more than just R370 considering what you got, I'd take a good bet that ME3 CE's artbook isn't in the same league as Skyrims A4 coffee table art book is...

Yes but the Skyrim CE was £120, ME3 CE is only £60. So if they where the same price Id say yeah, ME could have done better. But considering the price difference I am perfectly Happy what ME3's N7 Edition will be delivering unto me.

Just a side note, when talking about the Witcher 2 I was referring to the content of the Dark Edition, the CE for the Xbox release.
 
Yes but the Skyrim CE was £120, ME3 CE is only £60. So if they where the same price Id say yeah, ME could have done better. But considering the price difference I am perfectly Happy what ME3's N7 Edition will be delivering unto me.

Just a side note, when talking about the Witcher 2 I was referring to the content of the Dark Edition, the CE for the Xbox release.

Only reason I'm getting ME3 CE is because it had a price from ridiculous to R370, compared to what you getting and what it was priced at. Imho ingame reward/items isn't part of a CE, what is there exactly to collect? How ever if placed next to MK9 CE or Shogun 2 CE it fairs better.

At R370 it's OK for a "CE".

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Get the ultimate Mass Effect 3 experience with the N7 Collector’s Edition! This exclusive and limited package includes:
*Premium metal case featuring commemorative artwork of Commander Shepard.
*70-page hardbound art book featuring hundreds of unique and gorgeous illustrations from the BioWare development team.
*Limited edition Mass Effect comic by Dark Horse Comics, complete with unique cover artwork.
*Join the ranks of the N7 with the premium fabric N7 patch.
*Exclusive 4x6 lithographic print featuring a one-of-a-kind piece of artwork.

*A full collection of in-game content that can’t be found anywhere else!
*N7 Arsenal Pack – Bring the firepower with the N7 Sniper Rifle, Shotgun, SMG, and Pistol.
*Access to an additional downloadable mission and character
*Mechdog Companion – A faithful sidekick to keep you company on board the Normandy.
*Squadipmate Alternate Outfit Pack – New appearances for your favorite squad members.
*N7 Hoodie – For Commander Shepard’s casual days on board the Normandy.
*Relive all the greatest moments of Mass Effect 3 with the digital soundtrack.
*Xbox LIVE Normandy prop for your Avatar. (Available on Xbox 360 version only.)
*Display your initiation in the N7 ranks with a collection of forum and social badges, avatars, and perks.

Those are actual items you get, rest is pimp my shepard :p

TBH I'd be really happy had they added a model of the normandy :)
 
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I'm also getting the CE, so I'm not fussed about the DLC.

However, if the new squad character turns out to have some integral, core story arc that explains a whole lot of important stuff about the Mass Effect universe that is anything beyond incidental background story padding, then I'll consider it a dick move by EA/BioWare to charge standard edition players more to have it.

I have the feeling that the squad member in question, while certainly interesting, might not be such a vital piece of the overall Mass Effect story.

Time will tell...
 
I'm also getting the CE, so I'm not fussed about the DLC.

However, if the new squad character turns out to have some integral, core story arc that explains a whole lot of important stuff about the Mass Effect universe that is anything beyond incidental background story padding, then I'll consider it a dick move by EA/BioWare to charge standard edition players more to have it.

I have the feeling that the squad member in question, while certainly interesting, might not be such a vital piece of the overall Mass Effect story.

Time will tell...
That.

I had to get 2x of them, obviously. Since getting just one "ce" would get me into trouble ;)
 
I'm opposed to 1st day DLC if you have to pay for it, even including it as part of the collectors edition. They are more than welcome to include the artbook, soundtracks and other "junk" (depending on your point of view) with the collectors edition, but don't reduce the game for the people who buy the game at full price. As a rule, I usually don't buy that DLC (perhaps I'll even skip the game). I haven't thought this through yet, but I might even be open to the idea of pirating 1st day DLCs if I paid full price for the game (all my software and games are legal btw).
Dragon Age started with this 1st day paid DLC nonsense (at Bioware at least)... at least Mass Effect 2's 1st day DLC was free.

With all that said though, Mass Effect 3 really is the exception though because of the price. You get the whole game and all DLC for less than a standard edition copy of BF3 or MW3. If other games were similarly priced, I'd have no objection to to purchase the "full edition" at normal price. Perhaps they should then just rename their editions to something like Entry edition (current Std with no DLC), Standard edition (includes all 1st day dlc) and CE edition (with the artwork, etc.).

I heard something the other day, I think with Kingdoms of Amalur, that they have 1st day DLC and people who buy the game new, gets it for free.
I like that. It is fair to the clients and to the developer.
 
I'm also getting the CE, so I'm not fussed about the DLC.

However, if the new squad character turns out to have some integral, core story arc that explains a whole lot of important stuff about the Mass Effect universe that is anything beyond incidental background story padding, then I'll consider it a dick move by EA/BioWare to charge standard edition players more to have it.

I have the feeling that the squad member in question, while certainly interesting, might not be such a vital piece of the overall Mass Effect story.

Time will tell...

I'm not really sure. I can't say much without giving away the spoiler or giving hints to the spoiler, but I get a feeling the extra mission you get for the squad member is going to explore his backstory more than really fleshing out the universe.

Also, move over Grunt, the new member is taking your place in my squad.

Oh, and I really hope the new intro is as epic as the one in ME2. That moment where you step out into the vacuum of space in the broken Normandy and the sounds fade away with this giant planet looming over you... truly the most awe-inspiring moment I've ever had in a videogame.
 
That reminds me. I need to replay ME2 very, very fast. Garrus died on my last playthrough. :O
No. I must refrain from replaying another title. Already doing Diablo 2 :mad:

@ViperGTI. Why not add to it - If you pre-order you get the first 3 DLC for free, half or all of them. I mean you want sold unites on release which is better than alienating your clients with too many editions or as you said exclusive dlc.
 
That reminds me. I need to replay ME2 very, very fast. Garrus died on my last playthrough. :O

Busy with it now. Replaying with My Soldier Femshep on Insanity & all (story related) DLC. She's already maxed out at Lvl 30 and its still a challenge.
 
@ViperGTI. Why not add to it - If you pre-order you get the first 3 DLC for free, half or all of them. I mean you want sold unites on release which is better than alienating your clients with too many editions or as you said exclusive dlc.

Perhaps... there are some games that are doing it. Includes the 1st day DLC and the first paid DLC when released. I'd be open to it if they include all the 1st day DLC if you pre-order? Alternatively, they should drop the price of the base game if they want to have paid 1st day DLC.
Otherwise why should people pay extra when they already bought the game at full price? I don't mind DLC, especially if it is good like the previous ME DLCs, but with 1st day DLC, they are probably removing things that should be in the game to start with, just to charge extra for that.
 
Umm, where are you getting your prices???

ME3's SE is going for R500, CE is R600... At least that is what I've seen!
 
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