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I was trying to play Fallout 3 (had to import the goddamn thing from England, good luck finding it for PC anywhere else), but can't get it to run on Windows 7.

So now I'm playing New Vegas. So far it's not bad, but it's a little disappointing (I say that purely as a Fallout/Fallout 2 fan. It just doesn't live up at all). Having said that however, I haven't gotten to New Vegas itself yet, and I hear it really picks up from there, so here's hoping!

You could have bought Fallout 3 on steam. Also mine runs just fine.

Did you try compatibility mode?
 
I was trying to play Fallout 3 (had to import the goddamn thing from England, good luck finding it for PC anywhere else), but can't get it to run on Windows 7.

So now I'm playing New Vegas. So far it's not bad, but it's a little disappointing (I say that purely as a Fallout/Fallout 2 fan. It just doesn't live up at all). Having said that however, I haven't gotten to New Vegas itself yet, and I hear it really picks up from there, so here's hoping!

What czc said.

Also comparing Fallout 3 or New Vegas will leave you wanting, they are vastly different game.

New Vegas is best enjoyed in Hardcore mode at a steady pace. The is alot more content that Fallout 2 and rich and detailed back story with bits of Cannon.

I've spent 100+ hours in Fallout 3 and more than 60 in New Vegas (haven't finished it yet). As a Long time fan of the ip, have finished both Fallout 1 & 2 multiple times and even did a speed run of 1 in which I finished it in 12 hours, I can give you the simple advice, enjoy the Bethesda Fallouts on their own merit otherwise you may as well give up now.
 
I don't like buying games on Steam, unless I have no other choice. I prefer physical copies of games (means I don't have to re-download if I format or whatever). I bought Fallout 3 a while ago (I don't always have time to play games, so I'll often only get to a game much later), so if it's available now, well... it wasn't then, okay? :O

I played the first 15 minutes or so of Fallout 3 before it started crashing non-stop and........ it was pretty bad.

New Vegas has a much better presentation and much better writing. It's odd, because I dislike Obsidian, and yet they did a much better job than whoever the hell designed/wrote the first 10-20 minutes of FO3.
 
I don't like buying games on Steam, unless I have no other choice. I prefer physical copies of games (means I don't have to re-download if I format or whatever). I bought Fallout 3 a while ago (I don't always have time to play games, so I'll often only get to a game much later), so if it's available now, well... it wasn't then, okay? :O

I played the first 15 minutes or so of Fallout 3 before it started crashing non-stop and........ it was pretty bad.

New Vegas has a much better presentation and much better writing. It's odd, because I dislike Obsidian, and yet they did a much better job than whoever the hell designed/wrote the first 10-20 minutes of FO3.

Personally If I have to buy a pc game then Id rather get it off steam, its cheaper and easier than retail. Plus if I move the a different continent and all my game DVD's are in boxes 10000KM away its nice to simply redownload and play again without any hassle.

The first 15 minutes of fallout 3 has you as a kid inside a vault on a pretty narrow guided tutorial.... not sure how much of the actual game that constitutes. But hey, to each his own.
 
Also for some reason fallout 3 launches without steam running at all. Just load the .exe from the directory and it works by itself. Just need to get past GFWL then.
 
Personally If I have to buy a pc game then Id rather get it off steam, its cheaper and easier than retail. Plus if I move the a different continent and all my game DVD's are in boxes 10000KM away its nice to simply redownload and play again without any hassle.

The first 15 minutes of fallout 3 has you as a kid inside a vault on a pretty narrow guided tutorial.... not sure how much of the actual game that constitutes. But hey, to each his own.

Either you play really slowly, or my estimate was more rough than I thought (this was about 2 months ago). I got to the town with the bomb in the middle and talked to a bunch of people there. What I really didn't like is the typical Bethesda hive-mind approach to dialogue. Everyone says the same 2 or 3 lines. Ugh. Reactions to your stats are also extremely limited in comparison to the original games. Just don't like it (at least not the first... uh... however-many-minutes of it).
 
The first 15 minutes of fallout 3 has you as a kid inside a vault on a pretty narrow guided tutorial.... not sure how much of the actual game that constitutes. But hey, to each his own.

That was extremely frustrating and ruined the game for me. I left it for half a year before going back to the game after that.
 
The first 15 minutes of fallout 3 has you as a kid inside a vault on a pretty narrow guided tutorial.... not sure how much of the actual game that constitutes. But hey, to each his own.

I thought that was a brilliant new way to do character design. Never seen it done before or since.
 
Also for some reason fallout 3 launches without steam running at all. Just load the .exe from the directory and it works by itself. Just need to get past GFWL then.

Which is why I blatantly refuse to buy anything with GFWL requirement. Made the mistake with Fallout 3, soo many issues I dumped it and just re-bought the GOTY edition for Xbox, no hassles since.


Either you play really slowly, or my estimate was more rough than I thought (this was about 2 months ago). I got to the town with the bomb in the middle and talked to a bunch of people there. What I really didn't like is the typical Bethesda hive-mind approach to dialogue. Everyone says the same 2 or 3 lines. Ugh. Reactions to your stats are also extremely limited in comparison to the original games. Just don't like it (at least not the first... uh... however-many-minutes of it).

I think you are over estimating. If you listen to every conversation and not skip and then know exactly how to finish each of the quests not to mention the combat section towards the end of the Tutorial then maybe you could get outside in 15 minutes. Maybe. On my third play through I accomplished that having skipped all the dialogue. Also once I got outside I didn't run straight to megaton, I went and killed some Raiders in the School so I had some stuff to sell.

All I am saying is Fallout 1 & 2 is one kind of Game, 3 & New Vegas completely different with only the setting staying the same. If you go around comparing the 2 sets, especially on plot and dark humour then you will spend the 100 odd hours in either 3 or New Vegas nitpicking and not enjoying what is a really good, enjoyable game. Also the main plot, especially in F3, is pale and short. The real magic is out in the Waste, there are so many quirky little details and brilliantly written side quests. The Main quest is little more than something to move you across the wasteland.
 
All I am saying is Fallout 1 & 2 is one kind of Game, 3 & New Vegas completely different with only the setting staying the same. If you go around comparing the 2 sets, especially on plot and dark humour then you will spend the 100 odd hours in either 3 or New Vegas nitpicking and not enjoying what is a really good, enjoyable game. Also the main plot, especially in F3, is pale and short. The real magic is out in the Waste, there are so many quirky little details and brilliantly written side quests. The Main quest is little more than something to move you across the wasteland.

So how is that different from what I said? You can't help but compare them to Fallout 1 & 2 because, hello, it's a Fallout game. I'm not arguing that it's not the same as Fallout 1 or 2 (it's a first person game rather than an isometric semi-turned-based game, duh), I'm saying that it isn't as good, and doesn't have the same "Fallout feel". Also, both Fallout 1 and 2 are renowned for their great dialogue trees and how well they're written and incorporate your stats and skills. That's sorely lacking in FO3 or New Vegas (and when they are there, they're not done particularly well).

Basically, as a huge Fallout fan, it's a disappointment. I'm trying to judge the game on its own merits, but that's hard to do because, whether you like it or not, it has the Fallout name attached to it.
 
So how is that different from what I said? You can't help but compare them to Fallout 1 & 2 because, hello, it's a Fallout game. I'm not arguing that it's not the same as Fallout 1 or 2 (it's a first person game rather than an isometric semi-turned-based game, duh), I'm saying that it isn't as good, and doesn't have the same "Fallout feel". Also, both Fallout 1 and 2 are renowned for their great dialogue trees and how well they're written and incorporate your stats and skills. That's sorely lacking in FO3 or New Vegas (and when they are there, they're not done particularly well).

Basically, as a huge Fallout fan, it's a disappointment. I'm trying to judge the game on its own merits, but that's hard to do because, whether you like it or not, it has the Fallout name attached to it.

I as a huge fallout really enjoyed both, regardless of their short comings and my advice was intended merely to help a fellow fan of a great series enjoy the latest 2 instalments, nothing more. My apologies if I came over as slightly imperious.
On the stats thing, New Vegas on hardcore mode helps with that. Until you get to like lvl 30 at which point if you gun skill is high enough You hardly ever miss but the need to eat and drink, ammo weight and the damage system counter acts this nicely. I've taken to sneaking around using Boone and ED-E and seeing whats the longers real-time headshot I can make with my Sniper rife or Anti-Material Rife. Its hard really roleplaying the game as some of the quest logic is kinda of retarded, especially if you are looking at it from a Designer point of view trying to see beyond the veil.
 
I don't like buying games on Steam, unless I have no other choice. I prefer physical copies of games (means I don't have to re-download if I format or whatever).
Any game you buy on Steam and have downloaded you can easily backup and burn to a DVD, so there is never any need to reloaded a game if you don't want to.

As for getting FO3 and FNV to run smoothly, just message me and I can try help you out, there are a number of tweaks and what not which you can do to get them running better. I know because FO3 also used to crash like crazy on my machine.
 
To weigh in on the Fallout 1/2 vs 3/New Vegas argument; I thought 3 and New Vegas were pretty good games, they just weren't particularly good Fallout games.

Also, I kinda enjoyed 3 more than NV. NV was by far the superior RPG, but the setting in 3 was just so much better. Exploring DC and all those abandoned metro tunnels was awesome. Many of the characters in 3 were also arguably a lot more memorable than those in NV.
 
playing amalur now, i know i know, kinda late to the party but so far so fun :D, love how colorful and fantasy looking it is, now back to looting :D
 
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