Piracy in South Africa could get your Internet cut off

Lol, u mean to tell me that they gonna try and get someone to monitor our usage? Lol, yea right they cant even get 4mb for everyone in the country right
 
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Talking out their asses I see...
 
Lol, u mean to tell me that they gonna try and get someone to monitor our usage? Lol, yea right they cant even get 4mb for everyone in the country right

On the ISP side, it's actually quite easy to do this. Especially the monitoring tools available and in use by ISPs today. Btw, it's not Telkom alone that will be made resposible for enforcing this, but all ISPs.
 
On the ISP side, it's actually quite easy to do this. Especially the monitoring tools available and in use by ISPs today. Btw, it's not Telkom alone that will be made resposible for enforcing this, but all ISPs.

The privacy concerns make it quite difficult for them to do even if it is as easy as you seem to suggest it is. Just think of the impact that this monitoring service will have on download speeds and latencies...
 
Well all ISPs here block Piratebay, there are ways around it & with Cambodia agreeing to extradite that Piratebay founded to Switzerland it seems the crackdown on Piracy is picking up speed.
 
The privacy concerns make it quite difficult for them to do even if it is as easy as you seem to suggest it is. Just think of the impact that this monitoring service will have on download speeds and latencies...

No, it won't have an impact. It will just be some passthrough device which shows you what types of traffic and ports go through it, along with source and destinations IPs. It's very possible, believe me. But as the guys said, it becomes a privacy issue, but you know, our government doesn't really give a shit about anything anymore since they get away with murder these days.
 
No, it won't have an impact. It will just be some passthrough device which shows you what types of traffic and ports go through it, along with source and destinations IPs. It's very possible, believe me. But as the guys said, it becomes a privacy issue, but you know, our government doesn't really give a shit about anything anymore since they get away with murder these days.

Well if the govt wants their secrecy act i want my secrecy internet tyvm
 
No, it won't have an impact. It will just be some passthrough device which shows you what types of traffic and ports go through it, along with source and destinations IPs. It's very possible, believe me. But as the guys said, it becomes a privacy issue, but you know, our government doesn't really give a shit about anything anymore since they get away with murder these days.

I don't fully agree with that.

Any passthrough device will have an effect on latency and bandwidth, even if its small. If it's done in parallel, then it will result in a massive amount of extra hardware requirements which most ISPs simply don't have the money for. So most of them will just go for the software bundle on top which monitors everything and was written by BEE company A which doesn't have the required expertise.
 
I don't fully agree with that.

Any passthrough device will have an effect on latency and bandwidth, even if its small. If it's done in parallel, then it will result in a massive amount of extra hardware requirements which most ISPs simply don't have the money for. So most of them will just go for the software bundle on top which monitors everything and was written by BEE company A which doesn't have the required expertise.

Um, not really.

The IPC environment actually includes monitoring systems already, which you don't necessarily know about. In there are systems that distinguish bandwidth, so it knows what type of bandwidth is used to know where to send it. The caching system, RADIUS and DSL realms is also set up there, so that's where it stores data of which sites and IP ranges people use the most, so it can store it in cache. When a DNS query comes in, for example, it knows where to look for it, whether it's local or international and sends traffic on the correct path. You can also see in real-time what each user is doing. Many ISPs have different data packages, for instance, you could pay less for a Youtube package, where you pay less for Youtube traffic, but more for other Internet traffic and vice versa. For these systems to distinguish different traffic types, it has built in traffic monitoring and does not affect latency and usage since traffic has to pass through this IPC environment anyway to get routed.

I suggest you go take a look at some developments like Sandvine and also go read up a bit here.

Traffic is already monitored by default, it's not like they're only implementing it now. They're only using it to their own advantage now by adding laws to what and what we're not entitled to do on the Internet.
 
And you guys do know that there are international agencies who monitor torrents and the like, and then send letters to ISPs to forward to their clients. Most ISPs just don't even bother forwarding these letters.
 
And you guys do know that there are international agencies who monitor torrents and the like, and then send letters to ISPs to forward to their clients. Most ISPs just don't even bother forwarding these letters.

I got a few of these from Afrihost back in the day when I downloaded the odd tv show.
 
I got a few of these from Afrihost back in the day when I downloaded the odd tv show.

Yeah, many of the ISPs that use Internet Solutions as an upstream provider forward those letters because IS puts some pressure on them to do so.
 
Yeah right.. let them try and stop it. They should focus on stopping crime and corruption first.
 
Um, not really.

The IPC environment actually includes monitoring systems already, which you don't necessarily know about. In there are systems that distinguish bandwidth, so it knows what type of bandwidth is used to know where to send it. The caching system, RADIUS and DSL realms is also set up there, so that's where it stores data of which sites and IP ranges people use the most, so it can store it in cache. When a DNS query comes in, for example, it knows where to look for it, whether it's local or international and sends traffic on the correct path. You can also see in real-time what each user is doing. Many ISPs have different data packages, for instance, you could pay less for a Youtube package, where you pay less for Youtube traffic, but more for other Internet traffic and vice versa. For these systems to distinguish different traffic types, it has built in traffic monitoring and does not affect latency and usage since traffic has to pass through this IPC environment anyway to get routed.

I suggest you go take a look at some developments like Sandvine and also go read up a bit here.

Traffic is already monitored by default, it's not like they're only implementing it now. They're only using it to their own advantage now by adding laws to what and what we're not entitled to do on the Internet.
There is a difference between monitoring the type of data and the content of the data. If you are monitoring for copyright infringement it's not enough to just say "oh well this person downloaded something from the pirate bay therefore he must be a pirate", you have to identify exactly what he is downloading and verify that what he is downloading is copyrighted and that the copyright extends to South Africa and that the person does not have permission to do so and is not covered under fair use.
 
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