EA pledges backing for Gaymercon

[James]

EA pledges backing for Gaymercon

EA jumps on board with Gaymercon

 

[Graal]

Well, at least they're doing one thing right, except that as a gay guy, I still don't really see the point of a gay gaming conference.

 

[OmegaFenix]

Well, at least they're doing one thing right, except that as a gay guy, I still don't really see the point of a gay gaming conference.

I agree. Isn't the idea to get the community to interact regardless of sexual orientation? Segregation seems like it would fuel discrimination rather than fight it, IMO anyways.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Well, at least they're doing one thing right, except that as a gay guy, I still don't really see the point of a gay gaming conference.

For someone who, if I'm remembering correctly, still pretty much lives in the closet, you're speaking from a rather protected vantage point, wouldn't you agree?

I don't really know much about your life but I figure that homophobia couldn't have really affected you that much if you don't see a point to a gay-friendly (or perhaps I should say gay-supportive?) convention.

I agree. Isn't the idea to get the community to interact regardless of sexual orientation? Segregation seems like it would fuel discrimination rather than fight it, IMO anyways.

I agree with you and I feel the same: it defeats the entire point of wanting to be "equal" but then, that's kind of the point--sometimes it's not really possible and gay folk feel somewhat targeted. Think about the average gamer mentality and it should soon be obvious why being "openly gay" in a normal heavily male-dominated gaming convention may paint a big target reticule on you.

I figure it works quite nicely just for the gay "culture" scene and provides a friendly environment for the LGBT community to just be themselves instead of trying to "fit in."

I'm not saying gay folk should avoid normal gaming conventions for fear of bullying or abuse being hurled at them, but I am saying that it is a legitimate fear that many people do feel and many gamers really are puerile cunts who go out of their way to make fun of anything that they see as different or "weird."

All the same, I'm quite impressed with EA.

 

[OmegaFenix]

For someone who, if I'm remembering correctly, still pretty much lives in the closet, you're speaking from a rather protected vantage point, wouldn't you agree?

I don't really know much about your life but I figure that homophobia couldn't have really affected you that much if you don't see a point to a gay-friendly (or perhaps I should say gay-supportive?) convention.



I agree with you and I feel the same: it defeats the entire point of wanting to be "equal" but then, that's kind of the point--sometimes it's not really possible and gay folk feel somewhat targeted. Think about the average gamer mentality and it should soon be obvious why being "openly gay" in a normal heavily male-dominated gaming convention may paint a big target reticule on you.

I figure it works quite nicely just for the gay "culture" scene and provides a friendly environment for the LGBT community to just be themselves instead of trying to "fit in."

I'm not saying gay folk should avoid normal gaming conventions for fear of bullying or abuse being hurled at them, but I am saying that it is a legitimate fear that many people do feel and many gamers really are puerile c&@*s who go out of their way to make fun of anything that they see as different or "weird."

All the same, I'm quite impressed with EA.

First, could you please edit out that word. I know it seems a tad childish but I find it quite offensive.

U make a good point, as a hetro male gamer I can't say it totally understand it, having not been any such position, but I can say I see it. I guess this convention is a good step in the right direction. Hopefully eventually there will be more Torrance.

 

[Graal]

For someone who, if I'm remembering correctly, still pretty much lives in the closet, you're speaking from a rather protected vantage point, wouldn't you agree?

I don't really know much about your life but I figure that homophobia couldn't have really affected you that much if you don't see a point to a gay-friendly (or perhaps I should say gay-supportive?) convention.

Closet or no, my point is just that I think it's pretty pointless. It's nice to be represented, but in the end I don't get why there should be a convention aimed at homosexual gamers. A gamer is a gamer, regardless of his/her sexual orientation.

I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying I don't really see the logic behind it.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Closet or no, my point is just that I think it's pretty pointless. It's nice to be represented, but in the end I don't get why there should be a convention aimed at homosexual gamers. A gamer is a gamer, regardless of his/her sexual orientation.

I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying I don't really see the logic behind it.

Accessibility, freedom and tolerance is the logic behind it.

First, could you please edit out that word. I know it seems a tad childish but I find it quite offensive.

I'm sorry, Fenix, but no. I don't care much for censorship or toeing around the sensibilities of others out of fear that they may take "offence." But I'll try to use the word less in future, if that helps.

You, of all people, should understand that, if your interaction with most new forumites and people you disagree with is anything to go by.

U make a good point, as a hetro male gamer I can't say it totally understand it, having not been any such position, but I can say I see it. I guess this convention is a good step in the right direction. Hopefully eventually there will be more Torrance.

More Torrance indeed

I hope that one day there will no longer be a need for gay prides or gay conventions but the fact that it exists is a good showing that LGBT gamers are definitely a part of the gaming community as a whole and that gay gamers do, contrary to many comments I've seen over the years by adolescent bigots, exist.

 

[James]

MyGaming has always tolerated swearing as long as it isn't gratuitous and overused unnecessarily. If I'm forced through sheer number of complaints to censor one word, then I shall censor all words.

No more ********ing ***** hot *****s and ********s for you, mister.

 

[Tsar]

MyGaming has always tolerated swearing as long as it isn't gratuitous and overused unnecessarily. If I'm forced through sheer number of complaints to censor one word, then I shall censor all words.

I see the power has gone to your head. The new world order is here people

 

[OmegaFenix]

MyGaming has always tolerated swearing as long as it isn't gratuitous and overused unnecessarily. If I'm forced through sheer number of complaints to censor one word, then I shall censor all words.

Fair enough. See this is why I left it in your capable hands

 

[matt]

What's the Q stand for in LGBTQ?

 

[Lycanthrope]

What's the Q stand for in LGBTQ?

Queer.

Basically effeminate men or masculine women. Or transvestitism. It's actually a pretty broad term, I believe.

I see the power has gone to your head. The new world order is here people

Nah, just good to see MyG still values freedom of expression and those liberties we all hold so dear that some would much rather were taken away from us.

Edit:

Courtesy of Wikipedia:

In the late 2000s and early 2010s, a number of internet communities started to use the term 'LGBTQ,' the 'Q' standing for 'queer,' to represent forms of sexuality that fall outside of the original LGBT framework, in order to promote awareness and acceptance of these forms of sexuality.The term has a similar function to that of LGBTI, except LGBTQ focuses on sexuality rather than gender.[7]

Like asexuality, I assume. And that's where my knowledge of other sexualities pretty much ends.

 

[matt]

Queer.

Basically effeminate men or masculine women. Or transvestitism. It's actually a pretty broad term, I believe.

Right. That's kind of what I figured, but then I thought it was another word for gay, and derogatory at that. Does that mean it's now a new classification for people who aren't gay, but seem like they should be ????

 

[Lycanthrope]

Right. That's kind of what I figured, but then I thought it was another word for gay, and derogatory at that. Does that mean it's now a new classification for people who aren't gay, but seem like they should be ????

Oh look, that list of sexualities continues, again courtesy of Wikipedia:

it can also encompass: pansexual, pomosexual, intersexual, genderqueer, asexual and autosexual people, and even gender normative heterosexuals whose sexual orientations or activities place them outside the heterosexual-defined mainstream, e.g., BDSM practitioners, or polyamorous persons.

Them's be a lot of sexuals that I'm just giving a blank stare toward now.

Nah, queer isn't derogatory at all. But then even the word "gay" can be used in a negative connotation.

I'm also just learning about the broad definition of the word queer since I kind of just assumed it was in relation to effeminate men/masculine women who may have been bullied or need a community they feel accepted in. But yeah, seems it's way broader than that.

 

[matt]

Oh look, that list of sexualities continues, again courtesy of Wikipedia:


Them's be a lot of sexuals that I'm just giving a blank stare toward now.

Nah, queer isn't derogatory at all. But then even the word "gay" can be used in a negative connotation.

I'm also just learning about the broad definition of the word queer since I kind of just assumed it was in relation to effeminate men/masculine women who may have been bullied or need a community they feel accepted in. But yeah, seems it's way broader than that.

Wow, look at all of those words I've never seen before.... I always kind of figured that people were all somewhere on a scale from hetrosexual on the one end and homosexual at the other with bisexual in the middle. Transexuals are a bit of a sideline, and asexuals just aren't interested. Apparently it's more complicated than I realized

 

[Azimuth]

I know everything on that list without looking them up. I spend way too much time on the internet.

Also, it's weird that "dick" is a very mild swear while "cunt" is still so taboo. Personally, I use the word frequently because I'm all about equality, including genital insults. ^___^

 

[matt]

I think I can figure out what autosexual means

 

[Lycanthrope]

I know everything on that list without looking them up. I spend way too much time on the internet.

Also, it's weird that "dick" is a very mild swear while "cunt" is still so taboo. Personally, I use the word frequently because I'm all about equality, including genital insults. ^___^

I figured you'd feel the same about that as I do.

What makes "cunt" any more offensive or defamatory to women than "dick," "cock" or "prick" is to men? What about referring to a "blonde moment?" Should that be constituted as defamatory to blonde women now as well? What about calling someone a "tit" or feeling like a "boob?"

Offence is purely in the eye of the nutjob who wants to take something to extremes because their little primate sensibilities were shaken.

I have very little tolerance for someone who makes their problem mine.

/nerdrage

Wow, look at all of those words I've never seen before.... I always kind of figured that people were all somewhere on a scale from hetrosexual on the one end and homosexual at the other with bisexual in the middle. Transexuals are a bit of a sideline, and asexuals just aren't interested. Apparently it's more complicated than I realized

You and me both. Tarryn's actually the person who opened my eyes to a lot of other sexualities and the plight of the transgendered community. I was rather self-absorbed and blind to much of it until I spoke to her a few years ago.

She can be quite an eye-opener.

 

[Azimuth]

What about referring to a "blonde moment?" Should that be constituted as defamatory to blonde women now as well?

This one is a bit different, though, as it endorses a very negative stereotype. It would be like saying you had a "gamer moment" to describe a dating failure with women.

 

[OmegaFenix]

Its just a word I prefer not being used in public or polite conversation, much like "nigger", "Faggot", "kaffer", "Dyke" etc. But if Jame is willing to allow it, its fine by me, which is why I left it in his hands & discussed it with Lycan via PM rather than make a big deal about in the thread. What can I say, the term urks me.

This one is a bit different, though, as it endorses a very negative stereotype. It would be like saying you had a "gamer moment" to describe a dating failure with women.

I dont think its any different.

World English Dictionarycunt (kÊŒnt)

— n
1. the female genitals
2. offensive , slang a woman considered sexually
3. offensive , slang a mean or obnoxious person

Although there has been some relaxation of the taboo against using words such as fuck in conversation and print, the use of cunt is still not considered acceptable by most people outside very limited social contexts. Though originally a racily descriptive word in Middle English, it has been taboo for many centuries and continues to be so.

But maybe my sensibilities are just too sensitive.