Females in the gaming industry tackle sexism

thread was hijacked...

But I'll try bring it back on point.

I've read through many of the posts (at least the relevant ones), and I'm fascinated by how we all have slightly different experiences, yet it's the same core issues.

And yes... I would love to see some female input into this issue... yet they're all quiet or pretending to be men.

1) There are male gamers who are wise to the degradation that female gamers experience as an extension to their general views on gender equality in a broader sense.
2) There are male gamers who "get off" on abusing female gamers.
3) There are male gamers who don't realise how demeaning they're being towards female gamers as an extension of a "under-developed" view on gender equality in general.

people in category 2 are your classic "LOL NOOBZOR... LOLOLOL BOOBS MAKE YOU LOOS!" type gamer. I can only guess that the anonymity of the internet provides them a platform to lash out at girls in retaliation for "making them feel all shy and stuff" and not paying attention to them at all in real life.
Anyone who has had any form of meaningful relationship with a female will see straight away why this category of gamer is either still 14... or still very much an emotional and social adolescent. These are THE RETARDS.

Category 3 is much more of a problem. Borderline personality tendencies, exacerbated by the online anonymity, convinced that they're right... yet... they are so wrong. Some people in this category are still forming their opinions, yet others might be formed and just plain old sexist.

Category 1 is the balanced view and does not discriminate between real world gender relations and online. In other words: Someone who's views on females in general with regard to equality and respect, will transfer seamlessly to their behaviour online.


Now who fits where?

Which one of the recent posts and posters could you put in their various categories.

Someone brought up 4chan earlier... which is interesting... really interesting. I see what you did there...
See "Rule 14"... no exceptions.

Although 4chan is a cesspool of filth and rotten pRon, the anonymity of the site has stripped away societal norms of behaviour and has exposed the truth about people on the internet. We're all weird, we all have opinions, we all want to triforce... and OP is a...
 
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guys, guys , I think you are all missing the point here

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Just thought I'd leave this here before this thread becomes a dead horse that will see the inevitable beating:

The reasons why there aren't more "lady game creators" or women working in the game industry are numerous and varied — whether institutional or societal, whether from companies or people. But the fact remains that not only do men vastly outnumber women in the industry, they out-earn them as well, sometimes by a significant margin.

Game Developer magazine's most recent survey showed that in 2011, just under 11.5 percent of game industry employees in the U.S. — across all departments, from quality assurance up through design and production to programming and business — were women. There's a pronounced gender gap in pay, too: The survey showed that female employees' salaries ranged between 67 percent and 90 percent of those of their male counterparts, depending on the field. The U.K. industry is even less diverse, according to the newest Creative Skillset survey: In 2010, women made up only 6 percent of people working in the game industry there.

Meanwhile, 47 percent of gamers in the U.S. are female, according to the Entertainment Software Association.

One of the reasons Young gave for the lack of women in gaming was that employers who present her with freelance opportunities often tell her to focus on writing the story, as opposed to designing the game mechanics. "I'm lazy for not resisting that," she admitted.

Elizabeth Sampat, a designer of mobile and tabletop games, wrote, "Every post-release positive review I've seen of games I've designed/published has couched praise for it/me in sexual innuendo." Many others, including writer Lillian Cohen-Moore and game designer Jess Hartley, said they find it risky to even complain about sexual harassment, for fear that it could prevent them from being hired in the future. Writer Katie Williams put a long list of her personal reasons on her blog, saying she was "scared to post this on Twitter."
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Source: Polygon

Katie William's blog post:

TOO MANY REASONS WHY

I’ve been watching the #1reasonwhy hashtag on Twitter with an anxious kind of understanding. Like, part of me wants to jump right in and post a dozen of my own experiences, but I’ve also learned what happens if you say that shit publicly: you’re berated, blamed, dismissed. I’ve been there.

But why the fuck should I have to fear posting this? I’ve been quiet on Twitter and Facebook lately, for many reasons, but you know what? I think I’ll make my own list of Reasons Why right here:

Because when I tell people what I do for a living, they still say, “But you don’t actually play games, right?”

Because, at university, I had a classmate say, “I know for a fact that women don’t understand games. I know. I have a mother.”

Because when a man condescends to me, I’m told it’s because I’m wearing a pink skirt.

Because we still have people saying, on a daily basis, that sexism will go away if we just stop talking about it.

Because when I call out this behaviour, I’m told it’s my fault for having an “attitude problem” and maybe I should be less of a bitch.

Because when a fellow games student from my university comments on my articles, he says that I should stop whining and just accept that games journalism is a boys’ club – even though I’ve gotten far further in my games journalism career than he ever did.

Because when I tell the PR rep I want to look at AAA console games, he takes me to the pink Facebook games anyway.

Because I have other women in the games industry tell me to “just be quiet” if I don’t want to be harassed.

Because I’m told to “stand up for myself” – and then, when I do something like this, I’m dismissed.

Because I’m scared to post this on Twitter.
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Source: ALIVE TINY WORLD
 
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Because I have other women in the games industry tell me to “just be quiet” if I don’t want to be harassed.
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This is a reason that especially caught my attention.
 
Or,

Because we still have people saying, on a daily basis, that sexism will go away if we just stop talking about it.
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As was said in this thread; "there are better things to get worked up about."
 
It seems the #1reasonwhy hashtag seems to have sparked the #1reasonmentors hashtag where women with an interest in the industry are being encouraged to venture into it, they're also being mentored by women and men who've been in the game (excuse the pun:D) for a while.
 
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