I'm done with EA

Graal

Graal

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I'm done with buying EA games after what I found out today. Really, I hate EA and have for a while, but this just takes the cake. I was reading an article on BF4 and they discussed BF3 Premium a bit. I read something which made my hair rise a bit.

'queue priority into servers'

So I google it and read up on what they mean by this, as I simply couldn't believe that they would do what I was thinking they were doing. EA is bad, but they're certainly not bad enough to do this, are they? So I read up on it, and lo and behold, buying premium enables you to skip server queues.

Now forgive my colorful language, but in what fucking world is this an acceptable business practice? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for businesses providing an advantage to customers who pay more, but when that advantage comes with the price of other customers being disadvantaged? So, essentially if you don't want to pay an extra R500 on top of the R400 you've already paid for your game you simply have to make peace with the fact if you're trying to get into a popular server there's a big chance you're going to wait for quite a while as Premium players skip the line ahead of you?

How is that fair? Who, in their right minds, at EA headquarters, thought that people who bought your game but opt not to or cannot afford to pay even more for it, should be penalized?
 
Graal said:
I'm done with buying EA games after what I found out today. Really, I hate EA and have for a while, but this just takes the cake. I was reading an article on BF4 and they discussed BF3 Premium a bit. I read something which made my hair rise a bit.

'queue priority into servers'

So I google it and read up on what they mean by this, as I simply couldn't believe that they would do what I was thinking they were doing. EA is bad, but they're certainly not bad enough to do this, are they? So I read up on it, and lo and behold, buying premium enables you to skip server queues.

Now forgive my colorful language, but in what fucking world is this an acceptable business practice? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for businesses providing an advantage to customers who pay more, but when that advantage comes with the price of other customers being disadvantaged? So, essentially if you don't want to pay an extra R500 on top of the R400 you've already paid for your game you simply have to make peace with the fact if you're trying to get into a popular server there's a big chance you're going to wait for quite a while as Premium players skip the line ahead of you?

How is that fair? Who, in their right minds, at EA headquarters, thought that people who bought your game but opt not to or cannot afford to pay even more for it, should be penalized?
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I'm pretty sure that even now, a Premium member will be moved closer to the front in a queue than us regular Battlefield uses. I've encountered this on several different occasions. I would be first in the queue, then a Premuim member would join, and suddenly... Boom! "To the back of the pack with you Mr. Non-Premuim" One of the reasons I stopped playing the game many months ago. It simply/sort of discriminates against those who don't have Premuim or cannot afford (me) Premium.
 
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So ye most of the time we don't really get along, but I totally agree with you here.

I don't even have Origin on my pc anymore...
 
Do you guys remember my thread....... "Does EA have a future?"



I warned you! :p its starting! Boycotting EA FTW! :D
 
I just honestly couldn't believe it when I first saw it. Maybe I'm making a bigger fuss about it than is necessary, but I mean, they are literally giving some people who bought optional content for their game an advantage that actively disadvantages other players.

I'm just honestly surprised that nobody on any gaming news and review sites have made a fuss over this.
 
JP'S said:
Do you guys remember my thread....... "Does EA have a future?"



I warned you! :p its starting! Boycotting EA FTW! :D
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Agreed, If they make no money, they get no business. No business = No money = No profit = Staff firing = Make game better and cheaper :D
 
Cry me a river,what other advantages can you give Premium players that aren't balance breaking.

Usually servers aren't that full and you're just going to get your ass handed to you by top notch players on popular server until you either accuse them of hacking and get kicked or range quit.

Edit:the only thing that pisses me off is the minority community,take a look here:
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/
 
Huh?

If you want to be pissed at EA picked something real. Like the fact that BF4 is following on BF3 so soon...smells like the "every year a CoD" thing.

Graal said:
literally giving some people who bought optional content for their game an advantage that actively disadvantages other players.
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uhm, lots of games do this often in more active ways that affect actual game balance (Pay to win). The queuing thing doesn't even affect the game balance...

I can tell you though that as a premium player you spend a lot of time in queues too. I just keep the game minimized and read forums until I hear the starting game sounds.
 
DCWarhound said:
Cry me a river,what other advantages can you give Premium players that aren't balance breaking.

Usually servers aren't that full and you're just going to get your ass handed to you by top notch players on popular server until you either accuse them of hacking and get kicked or range quit.

Edit:the only thing that pisses me off is the minority community,take a look here:
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/
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In other words, "I don't care that EA is screwing over people who don't pay more money than me.'

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HavocXphere said:
The queuing thing doesn't even affect the game balance...
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No, it doesn't, but that doesn't make it any less unfair. Here you're sitting, you spend 10 minutes in a queue. Finally you reach first place when suddenly you get pushed back to second place. Then a minute later you get pushed back to third place. All because you didn't buy optional content.

So essentially you have less right to play on a server simply because you didn't buy Premium? Even though you shelled out upwards of $50 for BF3 already?
 
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Graal said:
In other words, "I don't care that EA is screwing over people who don't pay more money than me.'

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No, it doesn't, but that doesn't make it any less unfair. Here you're sitting, you spend 10 minutes in a queue. Finally you reach first place when suddenly you get pushed back to second place. Then a minute later you get pushed back to third place. All because you didn't buy optional content.

So essentially you have less right to play on a server simply because you didn't buy Premium? Even though you shelled out upwards of $50 for BF3 already?
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You need to check up some prices,you can get BF3+Premium for nearly the same price as BF3 now.

I don't see why i should care about the queuing priority.


Why don't you move to China,you might like it there where everyone is treated the same.

Personally i think you just want attention,this isn't thread worthy.
 
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DCWarhound said:
You need to check up some prices,you can get BF3+Premium for nearly the same price as BF3 now.
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Yes, and how about the people who paid R400 for BF3 two years ago? Why should they be disadvantaged simply because they don't want to spend any further money on it?

Why don't you move to China,you might like it there where everyone is treated the same.
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*Gasp* Treating all the people who paid a lot of money for your game the same? Unthinkable!

Personally i think you just want attention,this isn't thread worthy.
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No, DCWarhound. This is thread-worthy, just not according to you because we're discussing your favorite game. Ironically, if Activision did priority queuing for some people in CoD you would have been up in arms. But this is BF3 and you're a rabid fan of BF3 so you simply don't care. Good job on being the exact type of brainless, spineless customer that EA needs to continue their shoddy business practices. No, really, good job.
 
Graal said:
Yes, and how about the people who paid R400 for BF3 two years ago? Why should they be disadvantaged simply because they don't want to spend any further money on it?
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They would either not be playing the game anymore or already got premium.

*Gasp* Treating all the people who paid a lot of money for your game the same? Unthinkable!
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Why shouldn't you get extra things for paying more?,it happens all the time in business.


No, DCWarhound. This is thread-worthy, just not according to you because we're discussing your favorite game. Ironically, if Activision did priority queuing for some people in CoD you would have been up in arms.
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Cod had elite or something like that a year back,if Activision did priority queuing for the next Cod installment then i wouldn't give a shit.Why worry about something that has been milked to death that i'm never gonna buy.

This still isn't thread worthy,go find some other place to whine.
 
Graal said:
So essentially you have less right to play on a server simply because you didn't buy Premium?
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Dude your over reacting. Paying less = less product. Such is life.

Its like buying an entry level 3 series BMW and then being pissed that it doesn't provide M3 performance...

Remember DOTA 2 beta...you could pay a fortune and get early access. That was also getting more "rights" to play on the server...yet Valve isn't catching any flak from you.

I agree EA is evil in some ways, but you picked a weird issue to lose your shit over...

Graal said:
Even though you shelled out upwards of $50 for BF3 already?
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Ouch. I waited a bit and got premium edition + expansions for sub 50.
 
DCWarhound said:
They would either not be playing the game anymore or already got premium.
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Or they might still be playing and just don't want to bother with premium...

You might not know this, but there are actually a lot of people who never bought premium and don't want to bother with it.

Why shouldn't you get extra things for paying more?,it happens all the time in business.
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DCWarhound, do you have trouble understanding english? THERE IS NO ISSUE WITH GETTING ADVANTAGES FOR PAYING MORE MONEY, BUT THERE IS AN ISSUE WHEN THOSE ADVANTAGES ARE IMPLEMENTED TO THE DETRIMENT OF OTHER PLAYERS. Understand now, or is your rabid fanboyism still clogging your senses?

Maybe I should quote an article so you can get a bit more info on what the issue here is;

What is wrong with queue priority?

This Premium "feature" is removing a fair system that was already in place for all players who bought Battlefield 3. It is not just giving a bonus to Premium players, but rather penalizing users who choose not to purchase this additional service. It degrades the original product sold (post-sale for most users) through changing how the feature works and ultimately requires you to pay more to, at the very least, maintain the level of quality you once had.

To describe it in simpler terms, they took a fair system for all players and turned it into a system where players can pay more to cut you in line.

The takeaway

Give and give some more, but never take away.
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Read this and think about what it actually means. You, the existing, non-premium customer, are being actively penalised through no fault of your own.

A mere 7 months ago, you spent £30 to £40 of your hard-earned money, but now you’re a second class citizen because you’re not willing to spend even more. This is not a case of players with the base game being unable to utilise new content/maps/guns etc., it is a case of a whole tier of customers being treated with contempt, and for what? To add an extra bullet point on the marketing blurb.

Why the hell should somebody who paid an extra £40 be given the nod ahead of you when joining a vanilla BF3 server? Somebody on the BF3 forums used an excellent analogy – everybody knows it is rude to jump the queue (or to use an Americanism, to “cut in line”).
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The priority queue system is unfair towards players who don't have Premium. It's not an issue of non-premium players not receiving content that premium players are, it's an issue of non-premium players being actively penalized for not buying Premium. How is that so hard to understand?

But what is this? Premium members against queue priority? Unthinkable!

Premium members against queue priority : Petition
Premium plan: Server queue priority - protest note
 
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So your problem is with queue priority and that a alone?

The only full servers you will ever find is metro and there people usually join and leave in droves.The other ones that are full are usually filled with top clan players that want to test eachother out.

Personally i never join a full server because i know i'm going to have a bad game with 3 clans on one side all communicating through teamspeak with 1 or 2 clans on your side that may just be starting out in dgl.

You are making a way bigger deal out of this then it actually is.
 
HavocXphere said:
Dude your over reacting. Paying less = less product.
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Except you're not paying less. You're opting not to pay for an optional extra, and now you're essentially being punished for it.

Its like buying an entry level 3 series BMW and then being pissed that it doesn't provide M3 performance...
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No, a more accurate analogy is both you and another customer bought the exact same model M3. Whenever you need to have your vehicle serviced you get placed on a waiting list in the order in which you scheduled your service. If customer 1 schedules his service before customer 2 does, his gets serviced first. It's a fair system and nobody has any need to complain.

Now customer 2 buys a set of new mags from BMW and has them install a sun-roof. Customer 1 calls in on Monday to schedule his service and gets told he can have it done on Wednesday. Customer 2 then calls in on Tuesday to schedule his service and instead of having his car serviced on Thursday, they move customer 1's service to Thursday and tell him that due to the fact that he didn't spend more money on optional extras in his vehicle customer 2 is going to have his car serviced first.

And you know what's better? If another customer who also bought the same M3 and also installed a sunroof and mags wants to get their car serviced, they're moving customer 1's service back again.

Understand where I'm coming from now?
 
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