Thief 4 details emerge

Many of the series’ magical elements will be toned down
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Except for Garrett, who now has magic vision that he never had before.

“Eidos-Montreal compares game development to a high-speed train collision between art and technology.”
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That's apt, considering the game sounds like it will be a trainwreck.

The staff experimented with featuring a new character, making it a third-person game involving either tactical gameplay or environmental clambering (like Assassin’s Creed)
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That really explains everything. They wanted to copy AC.
 
Sounds cool to me, and it doesn't sound like its going to be a new Assassins creed "Fighting against four or more guards in combat won’t go well". If they kept the game exactly like the old one it would be crap, I think everyone is wearing huge nostalgia goggles.
 
I loved the fact that in the older Thief series for the most part open combat was not really an option.

Dishonored, while a good game, felt like it really was far too easy to just run in the open and kill everything.

I really hope they don't do this.

Also, the focus system sounds like crap, and I really don't want to be doing endless parkour ala Assassin's Creed.
 
Yeah, in Dishonored combat was actually easier than sneaking. That's one of the main reasons why Thief was a better game. Either you sneaked around, or you had to be really good at dodging arrows.
 
Graal said:
Yeah, in Dishonored combat was actually easier than sneaking. That's one of the main reasons why Thief was a better game. Either you sneaked around, or you had to be really good at dodging arrows.
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I've only started playing dishonored and could be wrong, but i get the feeling its meant to be easier to run into the open and kill but you get better outcomes if you go the sneaking route?
 
Gir said:
I've only started playing dishonored and could be wrong, but i get the feeling its meant to be easier to run into the open and kill but you get better outcomes if you go the sneaking route?
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Yes that's the intention but it's just silly playing a game one way when the other way is so much easier and the rewards for being stealthy really aren't that great.

I hate these 'acheivements' in games. I want to play the game for a story, not go around collecting stars or whatever the hell they want us to find.
 
Pooky said:
Yes that's the intention but it's just silly playing a game one way when the other way is so much easier and the rewards for being stealthy really aren't that great.

I hate these 'acheivements' in games. I want to play the game for a story, not go around collecting stars or whatever the hell they want us to find.
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Then don't collect them. I don't get why people get so upset about achievements. I happen to enjoy achievements, because others don't like them doesn't mean I shouldn't have access to achievements. Specially when if you don't enjoy them, you can just ignore them.
 
The problem with them is that they're the only thing encouraging exploration in Dishonored. In Thief, your main objectives encouraged exploration because you didn't know where the hell your main objective was. You got a static map that didn't turn according to the direction you faced and which didn't show where on the map you were currently located. That's it. You basically got plopped onto a map and got told 'this is your objective, now go do it.' Then you had to explore and listen in on conversations to get clues for your objective. In Dishonored you can merely go forward and you're going to run into your objective simply because there's not really any place else to go but forward.

Dishonored wasn't a bad game, but it was hard not to compare it to Thief; and with that comparison Dishonored lost out by far.
 
Meet Garret.

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PS he also sparkles when in sunlight.
 
That look's quite cool... But its not Garret its someone else going by the name Garret ... :wtf:
 
I think it's incredibly derp. In the interviews they say they actually toned down the gothic look. Which totally explains why he looks like he cuts himself.

Anyway, they keep going on about how iconic the original Garret was, yet they're making the new one the exact opposite of who he was. This Garret became a thief because the PRIME EVUL BARON killed his parents and now he's sworn REVENGE!!11!

In the original Thief games Garret was a Thief because he needed the money. He went on jobs because his rent was due. Why every modern game feels the need to have edgy main characters with cliche sob-story backgrounds is beyond me. Why can't Garret just be a Thief simply because?

Dear game developers everywhere,

You've already ruined DmC with grimdark edginess. Now you're going to ruin Thief next. Kindly stop.

Sincerely,
Everyone who thinks Twilight was drivel.
 
Graal said:
I think it's incredibly derp. In the interviews they say they actually toned down the gothic look. Which totally explains why he looks like he cuts himself.

Anyway, they keep going on about how iconic the original Garret was, yet they're making the new one the exact opposite of who he was. This Garret became a thief because the PRIME EVUL BARON killed his parents and now he's sworn REVENGE!!11!

In the original Thief games Garret was a Thief because he needed the money. He went on jobs because his rent was due. Why every modern game feels the need to have edgy main characters with cliche sob-story backgrounds is beyond me. Why can't Garret just be a Thief simply because?

Dear game developers everywhere,

You've already ruined DmC with grimdark edginess. Now you're going to ruin Thief next. Kindly stop.

Sincerely,
Everyone who thinks Twilight was drivel.
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I'm not really a fan of thief so I don't think I'm gonna comment on the way they've changed Garret, looks pretty cool to me. I do, however, feel that I should point out that not "everyone who thinks Twilight was drivel" thought that DmC was ruined. I actually think DmC is one of the best games I have played this year as well as one of the best action games this generation. And while I might get flamed for this, I think it was a hell of a lot better than earlier DmC games and Dante looks much better in the new game. All of this is, of course, just my opinion.

/off topic
 
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