Ichigo
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Very interesting analogy wouldnt have thought of it that way.
Xbox one revealed, next-gen console from Microsoft
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Very interesting analogy wouldnt have thought of it that way.
Graal
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The features actually looks very underwhelming. Gaming-wise, it's essentially the xbox 360 with better hardware. Considering most people already have home entertainment systems and those of us outside the US don't have Cable to plug into our xboxes, the home entertainment features are a bit silly.
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I'm curious, what did you expect?
The home entertainment part is actually the part that'll draw me, since I'm looking at an HTPC anyway in the next two years somewhere. I haven't read anything about the Xbox1's features, save for that is has HDMI in, so I can't say if I'd even consider it, but I do get that there will be too many US-only features. <pipedream> Maybe, since M$ has M$SA, we might see some of the services roll out here in the future! </pipedream>
Graal
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At least a little innovation would be nice. That goes for the PS4 as well. The ability for you to have rudimentary control over your games would be a good start, such as allowing players to install mods for games like Skyrim. Instead, they're clamping down even further on player control.
My biggest complaint about the home entertainment features is that it is going to be useless to most people, and it is going to push up the console's price by quite a large margin. I don't expect this thing to sell cheaper than the PS4.
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Fair enough. I kind of felt that we didn't have much of that with the start of the 360/PS3 gen, but that's just me..
I do like the innovation that PS4 brought to the table with video sharing with friends. How viable that will be outside of Japan with their fibre is an open question, but that's the kind of out of the box thinking I want from the console guys.I don't think we'll ever see that.. Traditionally, consoles were ROM-based, and so this was impossible, and I think this is a tradition they will defend with an Apple-like ferocity.
I wouldn't say useless, nor most people. Consoles have been the center of entertainment units for a long time; I know loads of people who never bought a bluray player, because they have a PS3, and also use it as a DLNA device to stream all their media to the living room. The home entertainment features are largely contained in software, with the exception of some input ports for video and sound; which is a single HDMI port. It'll push up the price, I agree with you there, but not by all that much, and it'll definitely go at less than the PS4, if not at launch, it'll be subsidized to PS4 - US$50 after 6 months, IMO.
Graal
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Xbox One will require daily internet connection, confirms Microsoft
Well then. That's that. The deal-breaker for me.
Well then. That's that. The deal-breaker for me.
Ichigo
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Hasnt it always required Xbox live to play multiplayer games or is that including single player games also cause that would suck, I usually dont keep up the membership since I only play alone.
Ike_009
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A daily 2min DRM mode, the rumours are true (well kinda)
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I'd have my console online 24/7 anyway, so that doesn't bother me in the slightest. I know this is flogging the dead four-legged running animal a bit, but is always-on really such a bad thing? Steam pretty much requires us to be online, by having a hopeless offline system, but there are very few complaints there.. D3 and SC2 both require always-on connections to progress in the game, but we've accepted that..
jasong
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I guess the XBOX360 and PS3 were something more than XBOX/PS2 with better hardware?
Isengard
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Our internet goes down at least twice a year for days thanks to Telkom, so yes that type of DRM would be a huge issue.
Saint_Dee
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Not to mention the fact that not everyone has access to a proper ADSL line (this is not an isolated thing, which is probably why Sony didn't even consider it), which means their internet connectivity is less reliable... Sure, always-on is acceptable (read not an incovenience) for people who have proper uninterrupted access to the internet, but what does it do as a feature that it would have to be included at the detriment of people who won't be able to meet its requirements?
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I get that always-on internet isn't.. erm.. always on, but what I'm getting at is that we've accepted it in other formats/forms. If you don't explicitly log Steam out to offline mode and the internet dies, guess what? You're screwed out of your Steam library until you're online again.. But we've become accustomed to this and tolerate it. And tether our phones for emergencies.
I'm not trying to say that this is a brilliant idea, just that maybe it's not worth boycotting the console over.
Grievous
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Yeah, I agree, Its not the end of the world. At worse it will be a little inconvenient if your internet is down for a few days. guess I will just play pc games or go outside.
As you said, steam, pretty shit without the internet yet we still get by.
Saint_Dee
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I've been able to log into Steam's offline mode numerous times when my internet was unavailable for long stretches of time without logging off explicitly to offline mode.
Yeah, I agree, Its not the end of the world. At worse it will be a little inconvenient if your internet is down for a few days. guess I will just play pc games or go outside.
See, the problem is, our complacence has made this the acceptable norm when it shouldn't be.
An excerpt from a report about Sony's consideration of Always-on:
This is just as true for people (regardless of their country's internet capabilities) and not just countries.