Well on the surface it looks like the hardware is medium range for today but the graphics that are being pushed out in top tier next gen console games at E3 (i.e. Destiny, The Division, Titanfall, Infamous: Second Son) look ahead of current gen PC games. The optimisations that you'll get out of these consoles in the years ahead like cloud servers, new techniques of extracting better graphics (as Naughty Dog did with Uncharted3), will keep them roughly on par for a good few years. And then you just don't have the hassle of constantly worrying about your next upgrade which is where I'm at now. So I see his point.
Not to rain on your parade...but all the E3 demos were running on PC gear afaik - generally many times more powerful than even next gen console specs.
I do get that. That's just standard practice though. If the games get released and then turn out to be significantly lower graphically than the E3 demos, then we can be upset. But they're all working on dev hardware and if they have the expectation they can get that level of detail on a console, then great.
Even in 2 years of PC development, dual 7990 level performance isn't going to be in reach of 'most' PC owners. So sure, if you spend exorbitantly you'll get graphics that totally cream any console that can ever be built. But when they release, to spend either $400 on a PC or the same $400 on a console, is there any question which would give you better graphics?
Well as I said, The Division/Titanfall/Destiny looks as good as anything else I've seen. Of course PCs will scale pretty much infinitely if you can spend the money. But then you're after this zen thing and I don't really care; I just want to play the games.
It standard practice because its necessary. Console just aren't powerful enough.
Oh come on...that rig is like 2-3 times as powerful as the consoles...obviously it will be significantly lower graphically. They have some tricks up their sleeves to gloss over it, but thats one hell of a gap cover.
I never said 2 years - thats a number you picked. Consoles have a 10 year cycle, so call it fair and make it 5 years. In 5 years 2x 7990 is going to be not only in reach of most PC owners but outdated already.
Fair point. It assumes a very short time horizon though because you're buying into an ecosystem with that $400 console buy - one that freezes all hardware advancements for the next 10 years. Dunno about you but I plan on playing in full 3D 4K resolution quite a bit before 2023.
To run their own games? :wtf:
But remember it's being tuned to run on a certain set of hardware; the pc might have more latent power but the game's the thing.
Remember that glorious BF4 demo a while back? Yeah...dual 7990 and liquid cooled i7 PC rendering at 3K. In a couple years time that will be in reach of normal PC players. For console player that will be in reach round about 2023...when the console gen after this one hits.
So in 5 years you just buy another gaming pc. You're going to have to in any case. I don't see a problem. Anyway consoles today are what, 8 years old? 10 years seems highly optimistic to me.
All I'm saying is, there's a lot of value for money there. I can see why Wes would be considering going this route rather than upgrading his pc.
I don't see why I can't have both eye candy and excellent game play.
Fair enough - Infamous seems to have been run on a dev kit which jason did mention on his list of impressive demos.
I also want both lol. But for the time being, the console graphics look to be on par with a top gaming PC; and like I said, for the money way above what an equally priced PC will put out. So is it a mistake to get a PS4 when it launches, and just hold onto it for a few years, then look at getting a gaming PC when the graphics are starting to get quite noticeably outdated? I don't think so.
Hard to say which ones were running on PCs and which were on dev kits. But it would be pretty shocking if they went and turned the graphics down a lot for the actual console game if it's being advertised as though it's the console.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree.
Well a high end PC *and* a console would be ideal - unfortunately I don't have the budget for both atm.
