Rust South Africa - Gamers Haven server

Stunt said:
The fact that all, 6, people on my FL with RUST who have joined the ProKill server (The one you HKGK and kie. keep promoting) have only been greeted by KOS tactics and unnecessary raids and griefing - proves otherwise. You guys have a bad rep already is what I'm stating, you can't say it shouldn't be spread around because it's already too late.

I read your post. In one post you declare that people should join you as you're noob friendly, in the next you say that if they approach you and they don't leave, you kill them - which is it?

I dislike griefers, not HKGK. But you guys sound a lot like griefers.



And if, like myself, they happen to spawn near a building site being completely new to the game and just inspecting the world then instantly get shot? I've been shot 3 times on sight and have never been asked anything - just run up to me, take out a shotgun and shoot.
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We are not promoting Pro Kill server at all, that is the one where people have complained about the KOS mindset, we are playing on RustZa, look at the thread in this forum about it. We dont play on Pro kills server anymore.

Yes there are alot of people who just KOS, we have all been killed as new spawns when starting the game, its just the circle, eventually you will be that guy with full kevlar and an m4 and have the power to kill anyone on sight.

The problem with games like this is the players mind set that comes naturally with the "Perma death" model, I think its best explained in a short story:

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A new player starts Rust for the first time, lets call him "Kevin", Kevin starts the game, he's in awe of the giant Map and runs around trying to figure out exactly what this world is about. After gathering some resources, Kevin see's his first real player busy building what seems like a Wooden Mansion, he approaches this player, hoping to spark a friendship only to have him turn around, yell "THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE", and blasts Kevin right in the chest with a shotgun.

So now Kevin starts again, fresh, with abit more knowledge of what to do, weary of other players but still believes they can be trusted. After managing his first wooden hut and door, he feels like he is getting somewhere. He notices another player hacking at a woodpile near his shack, he cautiously approaches while saying over his mic "Friendly", the avid lumberjack turns to face Kevin and replies with "Friendly" as well, With Kevin now thinking he's made a new survival buddy, the lumberjack pulls out his MP5 and pops Kevin between the eyes.

Utterly demotivated after all his hard work which has come to nothing, Kevin sets out again, knowing not to trust anyone, he manages a decent 2x2 base, builds himself some armor and an M4. Now he feels invincible, he goes out to the woods to gather some more resources to finish off his base.

New Player "Dave" has just spawned and is traveling through the forest in amazement, he see's a player sporting a fancy red hoodie busy hacking at the corpse of a bear, Kevin spins around from filleting his recent kill, yells "I AM THE NIGHT!" and plants an M4 bullet into Dave's left lung, knowing full well he cant trust anyone. Dave wonders what this world is really all about as his kill message shows on his screen.

And the cycle repeats itself.
 
From Rust: Official Thread

Stunt said:
This tool just kills everyone on sight, doesn't matter if you're armed or not - He's purely a griefer. Think I'll try the 100 player server tonight, supposedly less "Shoot on sight" guys hanging around there.
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Shirou said:
lol, Rockford is a great guy, just let him know beforehand who you are and that you are friendly as we can't trust anyone anymore on this servers so trained to kill if we don't know the person.
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Roomys said:
That tool is my boet, when he first started he spent 6 hours farming and building his house on the ZA server. They came killed him (while unarmed) and raided his place. If your not meant to be there you will be killed. Never approach someones building if you dont know who they are dude, if he was actively chasing new spawns and killing them for fun then maybe i would agree with you.

You are going to meet a lot of people you probably wont like or agree with. Like Shirou says, if we dont know someone and they are headed for our base, we do KOS and ask questions later.
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Proof enough?

You change your song too often guys, hence bad reputation going around. I'm not starting ka/k. Pointing out the obvious and trying to clarify these claims - it's hard though as you can see.

Also, @CrabLeg, "anymore" is the key word in your argument. That changed like 2 days ago, the HKGK reputation has been an unfolding mess since the week before last.
 
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Crableg said:
We are not promoting Pro Kill server at all, that is the one where people have complained about the KOS mindset, we are playing on RustZa, look at the thread in this forum about it. We dont play on Pro kills server anymore.

Yes there are alot of people who just KOS, we have all been killed as new spawns when starting the game, its just the circle, eventually you will be that guy with full kevlar and an m4 and have the power to kill anyone on sight.

The problem with games like this is the players mind set that comes naturally with the "Perma death" model, I think its best explained in a short story:

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A new player starts Rust for the first time, lets call him "Kevin", Kevin starts the game, he's in awe of the giant Map and runs around trying to figure out exactly what this world is about. After gathering some resources, Kevin see's his first real player busy building what seems like a Wooden Mansion, he approaches this player, hoping to spark a friendship only to have him turn around, yell "THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE", and blasts Kevin right in the chest with a shotgun.

So now Kevin starts again, fresh, with abit more knowledge of what to do, weary of other players but still believes they can be trusted. After managing his first wooden hut and door, he feels like he is getting somewhere. He notices another player hacking at a woodpile near his shack, he cautiously approaches while saying over his mic "Friendly", the avid lumberjack turns to face Kevin and replies with "Friendly" as well, With Kevin now thinking he's made a new survival buddy, the lumberjack pulls out his MP5 and pops Kevin between the eyes.

Utterly demotivated after all his hard work which has come to nothing, Kevin sets out again, knowing not to trust anyone, he manages a decent 2x2 base, builds himself some armor and an M4. Now he feels invincible, he goes out to the woods to gather some more resources to finish off his base.

New Player "Dave" has just spawned and is traveling through the forest in amazement, he see's a player sporting a fancy red hoodie busy hacking at the corpse of a bear, Kevin spins around from filleting his recent kill, yells "I AM THE NIGHT!" and plants an M4 bullet into Dave's left lung, knowing full well he cant trust anyone. Dave wonders what this world is really all about as his kill message shows on his screen.

And the cycle repeats itself.
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I really liked reading that Crab you get +rep.
 
Stunt said:
From Rust: Official Thread







Proof enough?

You change your song too often guys, hence bad reputation going around. I'm not starting ka/k. Pointing out the obvious and trying to clarify these claims - it's hard though as you can see.

Also, @CrabLeg, "anymore" is the key word in your argument. That changed like 2 days ago, the HKGK reputation has been an unfolding mess since the week before last.
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Our Tune has once changed again on OUR server. That was Prokills server.

Please can we put this load of shit tossing to bed, log on tonight (as you said you would yesterday already and didn't) and come on TS.

Come actually play with us in our environment and hear us talk and joke, don't paste us as THIS KOS crowd because my brother shot you once.

And also don't bold what you think is making a point, read the very sentence before it.

My god we are going to need a sub forum for Rust soon.
 
Crableg said:
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A new player starts Rust for the first time, lets call him "Kevin", Kevin starts the game, he's in awe of the giant Map and runs around trying to figure out exactly what this world is about. After gathering some resources, Kevin see's his first real player busy building what seems like a Wooden Mansion, he approaches this player, hoping to spark a friendship only to have him turn around, yell "THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE", and blasts Kevin right in the chest with a shotgun.

So now Kevin starts again, fresh, with abit more knowledge of what to do, weary of other players but still believes they can be trusted. After managing his first wooden hut and door, he feels like he is getting somewhere. He notices another player hacking at a woodpile near his shack, he cautiously approaches while saying over his mic "Friendly", the avid lumberjack turns to face Kevin and replies with "Friendly" as well, With Kevin now thinking he's made a new survival buddy, the lumberjack pulls out his MP5 and pops Kevin between the eyes.

Utterly demotivated after all his hard work which has come to nothing, Kevin sets out again, knowing not to trust anyone, he manages a decent 2x2 base, builds himself some armor and an M4. Now he feels invincible, he goes out to the woods to gather some more resources to finish off his base.

New Player "Dave" has just spawned and is traveling through the forest in amazement, he see's a player sporting a fancy red hoodie busy hacking at the corpse of a bear, Kevin spins around from filleting his recent kill, yells "I AM THE NIGHT!" and plants an M4 bullet into Dave's left lung, knowing full well he cant trust anyone. Dave wonders what this world is really all about as his kill message shows on his screen.

And the cycle repeats itself.
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haha, nice story Crableg, enjoyed reading it! :D

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Roomys said:
Our Tune has once changed again on OUR server. That was Prokills server.

Please can we put this load of shit tossing to bed, log on tonight (as you said you would yesterday already and didn't) and come on TS.

Come actually play with us in our environment and hear us talk and joke, don't paste us as THIS KOS crowd because my brother shot you once.

And also don't bold what you think is making a point, read the very sentence before it.

My god we are going to need a sub forum for Rust soon.
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Agree with Roomys, rather come play with us and then you can start to judge yourself.
 
Roomys said:
Our Tune has once changed again on OUR server. That was Prokills server.
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There we go, was that so hard. The convictions were true then, so understand where your clans bad reputation comes from. :) - Just to clarify, I've seen HKGK in BF before, I'm certain and have never seen any reason to dislike them, so don't think I'm out to get your clan. Just explaining the rep they have in Rust.

Roomys said:
Please can we put this load of shit tossing to bed, log on tonight (as you said you would yesterday already and didn't) and come on TS.

Come actually play with us in our environment and hear us talk and joke, don't paste us as THIS KOS crowd because my brother shot you once.
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I didn't play because I expected the exact same behaviour I've received all 4 times I've booted into a ZA server, unfriendly KOS fun. Will do some time, but since I'll be a naked dude, unarmed - thus an approachable noob. I see no need to join your TS because in hind-sight that would declare my safety immediately, which is not what you guys stipulate is necessary.

Roomys said:
]And also don't bold what you think is making a point, read the very sentence before it.
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Okay,

You are going to meet a lot of people you probably wont like or agree with. Like Shirou says, if we dont know someone and they are headed for our base, we do KOS and ask questions later.
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Done. Funny, I'm getting the same message when I do that. What am I doing wrong?
 
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Stunt said:
There we go, was that so hard. The convictions were true then, so understand where your clans bad reputation comes from. :) - Just to clarify, I've seen HKGK in BF before, I'm certain and have never seen any reason to dislike them, so don't think I'm out to get your clan. Just explaining the rep they have in Rust.



I didn't play because I expected the exact same behaviour I've received all 4 times I've booted into a ZA server, unfriendly KOS fun. Will do some time, but since I'll be a naked dude, unarmed - thus an approachable noob. I see no need to join your TS because in hind-sight that would declare my safety immediately, which is not what you guys stipulate is necessary.



Okay,



Done. Funny, I'm getting the same message when I do that. What am I doing wrong?
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On the previous server EVERYONE had a KOS mentality, which just scaled exponentially cause all new players adopt that, so we killed a couple people on a server where everyone was killing on, playing on a server where not everyone has this KOS mindset changes things completely, you no longer kill without asking questions cause majority of the players arent there to attack you.

Its all situational.

We should probably stop all this banter, It's understandable that you will be upset that you were killed alot, even if it wasnt by us.

This new server is awesome, look at the details on the front page, and come join.
 
Shirou said:
We try and be nice to you and want you to see we can proof you otherwise but you just carry on being a prick?
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Wow, what a bag of insults you guys seem to be. Listen, I was accused of a strawman response, so I do as he suggests and then I'm seen as a prick?

Also, it was just proven that you were "pricks" in the past which was my argument of where your bad reputation hails from. So my argument concerning that is done. However, your continuous, childish remarks is only assisting your reputation in preceding you... Maybe stop acting like you guys have been good a along - we're past that lie and instead work on improving your relationship with the rest of the Rust community.

I'll log in on your server over the weekend to prove that the change is a fact, however see no point in join the TS of a bunch of guys who resort to personal insults when proven wrong.
 
You can now check your ping on the PlayRust ZA server by doing /ping ingame.

And don't forget to redeem your once time only starting kit! /kit starter
 
Roomys said:
A few Multiplay servers are up, dont see the PlayRustZA one yet
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Yea i don't know what Multiplay did with ours.. but when i try and start it i get the following:

Failed to start 'PlayRust ZA (Door Sharing + More) - Active Admins - No Abuse'

Failed to copy '/usr/tmp/CGItemp54781' -> '/home/mpukgame/tourney/templates/RUST/808089/data/groupsinvites.txt' (Is a directory)


So i logged another ticket with them.
 
The Server is up!! Multiplay messed with my server files, so i needed to re-setup the whole thing, but don't worry everything is still there :)

Also have some new plugins installed we will test, /time - Check your time, and Base Alarm, if someone attacks your base it will alert you, we can remove this if anyone think there is a problem, but lets test it :)

For now login and lets play!
 
Shirou said:
The Server is up!! Multiplay messed with my server files, so i needed to re-setup the whole thing, but don't worry everything is still there :)

Also have some new plugins installed we will test, /time - Check your time, and Base Alarm, if someone attacks your base it will alert you, we can remove this if anyone think there is a problem, but lets test it :)

For now login and lets play!
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Ahh this dam good stuff man!!
 
New Feature Added: Ownership Remover, you can now use a pick axe to remove a misplaced object, equip a pick axe and then hit something you own once then it will warn you first, hitting it again will remove it.

NB: It can only be done from the person who builded the structure.

For all commands just make sure to type: /help
 
Hi guys,

Please have a look at this video i made this weekend. It was our first Deathmatch arena event.

 
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