Portal tshirt...ideas?

Inevitability said:
None whatsoever.
If the "make money" bit is the driving force behind your question, then rest assured that the price just about covers the production cost and postage.
But if your motivation is the purely the noble one of "doing the right thing and speaking out for the sake of upholding the tenets of intellectual property", then I am wholely and completely in the wrong here.
Should I put you on the list for a Large, then?
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Nope. I've never supported any form copyright infringement. The fact that you're taking orders and being paid for it goes beyond innocent misunderstanding of these laws. Even if you're making a loss, the fact that you're using the intellectual property owned by another and asking to be paid for it, is very much illegal. Not merely wrong, illegal.

This is a reputable website, I suggest you stop advertising here.
 
Stunt said:
Nope. I've never supported any form copyright infringement. The fact that you're taking orders and being paid for it goes beyond innocent misunderstanding of these laws. Even if you're making a loss, the fact that you're using the intellectual property owned by another and asking to be paid for it, is very much illegal. Not merely wrong, illegal.
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You're mistaken... There is no innocent misunderstanding of the law here.
I do indeed understand that this is illegal. Never denied that.
Illegal ...same as watching last night's english premier league game via streaming when Multichoice has the exclusive broadcast rights.
Illegal ...same as not paying my eTolls.
Illegal ...same as parking my car on the wrong side of the road facing oncoming traffic.

Sadly, breaking the law of our land is something I am accustomed to.
I am truly sorry that this bothers you.
My actions are deplorable. Despicable. And I accept that. I'm not defending myself.
You're 100% right, and you should hold fast to those principles, cos the world is a better place with principled individuals.

But for the others who don't care for paying eTolls and who download episodes of Dexter and Game of Thrones, then this is just one more illegal thing.
 
Inevitability said:
You're mistaken... There is no innocent misunderstanding of the law here.
I do indeed understand that this is illegal. Never denied that.
Illegal ...same as watching last night's english premier league game via streaming when Multichoice has the exclusive broadcast rights.
Illegal ...same as not paying my eTolls.
Illegal ...same as parking my car on the wrong side of the road facing oncoming traffic.

Sadly, breaking the law of our land is something I am accustomed to.
I am truly sorry that this bothers you.
My actions are deplorable. Despicable. And I accept that. I'm not defending myself.
You're 100% right, and you should hold fast to those principles, cos the world is a better place with principled individuals.

But for the others who don't care for paying eTolls and who download episodes of Dexter and Game of Thrones, then this is just one more illegal thing.
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Wow... This justification of your wrong doing has obviously spawned a psychosis of inevitable decline. Why not just give away a free pirate copy of Portal with each purchase while you're at it? - Posts reported.
 
Don't want to pick a fight here or anything but i just have to ask, Stunt have you never ever downloaded any episode of any tv show or music or movie(and i'm just asking out of curiosities sake) cos i can see this thing getting ugly
 
AlienTaker said:
Don't want to pick a fight here or anything but i just have to ask, Stunt have you never ever downloaded any episode of any tv show or music or movie(and i'm just asking out of curiosities sake) cos i can see this thing getting ugly
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I have watched, yes.

However, I have not put said episodes on a disc and offered to sell it to the public. Do you understand?
 
Stunt said:
I have watched, yes.

However, I have not put said episodes on a disc and offered to sell it to the public. Do you understand?
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I Understand completely but as soon as you DL any of those it's piracy or am i wrong again i'm neutral here i just want to get more visibility on the situation
 
AlienTaker said:
I Understand completely but as soon as you DL any of those it's piracy or am i wrong again i'm neutral here i just want to get more visibility on the situation
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Your correct... The second you Download something like music or a series, even if it is just to listen to, or just to watch, its Illegal...
 
AlienTaker said:
I Understand completely but as soon as you DL any of those it's piracy or am i wrong again i'm neutral here i just want to get more visibility on the situation
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I've never downloaded pirated software or media. I have watched it though.

Also, you seem to be mistaking the term "visibility" for "ammunition", I own over 2000 Audio CD's, 200 Xbox Games and a similar amount of digital media I own through purchase, all legit. I have a pretty decent BluRay and Box set collection as well. I don't even have an illegal application on my PC.

Clear?
 
AlienTaker said:
I Understand completely but as soon as you DL any of those it's piracy or am i wrong again i'm neutral here i just want to get more visibility on the situation
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Tom said:
Your correct... The second you Download something like music or a series, even if it is just to listen to, or just to watch, its Illegal...
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Stunt doesn't deny that it is illegal. We've all probably done it at some point in our lives.

What Stunt is trying to say is, he isn't taking that 'content' which he downloaded illegally and going out and selling it to make a profit.
 
Iam3G said:
Stunt doesn't deny that it is illegal. We've all probably done it at some point in our lives.

What Stunt is trying to say is, he isn't taking that 'content' which he downloaded illegally and going out and selling it to make a profit.
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This.

Inevitability said:
What Stunt is saying is that if any1 buys him a tshirt he'll be ok with it :)
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Not wrong, but not entirely correct. I'm not an "Anti-Piracy" zealot. I keep my nose clean, which is my preference. Fact is, what's being done by Inevitability could carry repercussions for more than just himself due to the possibility that he could profit off the sale of pirated goods.
 
Tom said:
Your correct... The second you Download something like music or a series, even if it is just to listen to, or just to watch, its Illegal...
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Nope. Not in the RSA. Two points, if I own a license to something, I can download it seventeen times over, and no one can say a thing about it. If you buy a CD, your paying for the license, not the medium the music comes on. This license entitles you to use the music, with certain restrictions, as printed on the CD.

Second, in the RSA it is only illegal to distribute copyrighted materials, i.e. uploading, or writing to a disc and selling from your boot or some such.

All that said, these t-shirts are clearly illegal. MyGaming's stance has always been anti-piracy, and while this might not be exactly what was intended when this rule was made, it's the exact same law being broken.

For what it's worth, IANAL and TINLA.
 
Stunt said:
Not wrong, but not entirely correct. I'm not an "Anti-Piracy" zealot. I keep my nose clean, which is my preference. Fact is, what's being done by Inevitability could carry repercussions for more than just himself due to the possibility that he could profit off the sale of pirated goods.
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I get it... I was just twisting your words to mess with you :p
 
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