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Morning TK

Its Friday, everyone can just calm down

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I disagree. Thief is a good example of early access done right: they actually finished the game before trying to charge people money for it.
Early access, paid beta, paid DLC, in game purchases, monthly subscriptions...
What have the gaming world come to?

Edit: The reason gaming is a multi-billion dollar business is because you have to pay five times for the same game!

In a perfect world I agree, however the industry has changed because the consumers are into things like DLC and Early Access. Do I like it personally, no. Hence I don't buy into early access and I try to avoid pre-orders because technically buying something before you've had hands on time with it, or before proper reviews are out is really not clever. Sure there are some companies you can bet on, but they are few and far between and even then they aren't immune to making mistakes.

Since early access is a thing now, and so prevalent at that. You have to make a distinction between doing it right and doing it wrong. Starbound, Eldrich and a few others do a pretty good job at being fair with regards to their early access updates and releases. Where as you have something like Gary's Incident, Next Car Game etc. that are either broken or are so early in dev that they are more of a tech demo. I've got other issues with early access too. Like fragmenting a community, charging people to bug test for you and game burnout etc.

I also feel that it sends the industry a terrible message when so many people go for early access games. There are LOADS of great complete $15 games on steam spend money there. Eventually they'll start charging us to watch videos of the devs coding as "early access".
 
In a perfect world I agree, however the industry has changed because the consumers are into things like DLC and Early Access. Do I like it personally, no. Hence I don't buy into early access and I try to avoid pre-orders because technically buying something before you've had hands on time with it, or before proper reviews are out is really not clever. Sure there are some companies you can bet on, but they are few and far between and even then they aren't immune to making mistakes.

Since early access is a thing now, and so prevalent at that. You have to make a distinction between doing it right and doing it wrong. Starbound, Eldrich and a few others do a pretty good job at being fair with regards to their early access updates and releases. Where as you have something like Gary's Incident, Next Car Game etc. that are either broken or are so early in dev that they are more of a tech demo. I've got other issues with early access too. Like fragmenting a community, charging people to bug test for you and game burnout etc.

I also feel that it sends the industry a terrible message when so many people go for early access games. There are LOADS of great complete $15 games on steam spend money there. Eventually they'll start charging us to watch videos of the devs coding as "early access".

Just out of curiosity, I see a load of early access games on steam and each time I see them they are still early access. I also don't buy into early access, but maybe those that do can tell me: have there actually been games that went from early access to full release?
 
Just out of curiosity, I see a load of early access games on steam and each time I see them they are still early access. I also don't buy into early access, but maybe those that do can tell me: have there actually been games that went from early access to full release?

A couple, I think notably Broken Age from Double Fine. That is a worry though that you can just slap the Early Access label on your game and leave it in perpetual "beta".
 
I changed my avatar so it wouldnt be a temptation :)

Also i changed it for the MyG folks who cant remember what the sun looks like.

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Our neighbor's daughter came to visit from the UK with her English husband. I wonder what he's thinking of sunny South Africa at this stage.
 
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