South Africa’s online porn habits exposed

Lol Neo, not trying to undermine the validity of your comment because you are right, but the same could be said of chocolate:

I agree with the sentiment that chocolate definitely is evil and it's very, very addictive. But ultimately, I don't believe that chocolate in itself is the addictive part - it's the whole routine of what follows ending in a rush of endorphins. So it forms part of a larger addiction. I'm not criticizing anyone, I just strongly believe that chocolate has a real bad side to it concerning the people using it.

So besides the debates about how damaging it is to woman/children/dolphins etc. I think people need to be aware of the damaging affects chocolate may have to the end-users too. It really can ruin relationships, marriages and your self esteem. It's actually quite dangerous if you think about it and you tend to understand why there are so many groups against it. More importantly, why it's important to shield young stomachs from it. If you don't approach chocolate with an adult, mature mindset it really can cause major damage.
 
Clive Woofer said:
Anything done in excess is bad for you. I don't believe porn is any more evil than anything else.
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I agree. I believe, with my whole heart, that parents need to try and shield young kids from the stuff though. I was exposed to porn (thanks to an older brother that didn't care where he left his magazines and tapes) at a very early age, and I honestly wish that I could change that.

The whole "porn is evil" thing gets very, very murky if you start debating the deeper issues like what it does to women etc. and again when brought into light of religion. But that stuff aside, from a personal opinion, I believe it can be just as dangerous as drugs in the fact that it can become addictive and have a very negative impact on a person's life.

The same as with gaming. Some people have a healthy mindset where they can clearly distinguish the difference between shooting a polygon in the face, and shooting a person for real (in the face). If you expose the wrong kind of person to violent games you're going to create a problem. If you expose the wrong kind of person to porn, you're going to end up with a problem as well.

Didn't Charles Manson say that porn was one of his biggest motivations for doing the gruesome stuff he did? It makes you think.

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James said:
Lol Neo, not trying to undermine the validity of your comment because you are right, but the same could be said of chocolate:

I agree with the sentiment that chocolate definitely is evil and it's very, very addictive. But ultimately, I don't believe that chocolate in itself is the addictive part - it's the whole routine of what follows ending in a rush of endorphins. So it forms part of a larger addiction. I'm not criticizing anyone, I just strongly believe that chocolate has a real bad side to it concerning the people using it.

So besides the debates about how damaging it is to woman/children/dolphins etc. I think people need to be aware of the damaging affects chocolate may have to the end-users too. It really can ruin relationships, marriages and your self esteem. It's actually quite dangerous if you think about it and you tend to understand why there are so many groups against it. More importantly, why it's important to shield young stomachs from it. If you don't approach chocolate with an adult, mature mindset it really can cause major damage.
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LMAO - I see what you did there, but please, stop bringing chocolate into this. Chocolate is good, and pure. :) You get what I'm trying to say though. I don't think chocolate and porn is really on the same level here. You're not going to "wait for your wedding night" before unwrapping your first Nosh bar. lol. I think you've just created the term "premarital chocolate". :D

Seriously though. There are many bad and addictive stuff out there. Porn is especially dangerous in that it can cause self-loathing and a whole bunch of inwardly negative views. I don't recall ever berating myself for eating a Nosh.
 
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Edelweiss said:
lol sorry. Urgh. Cringe. Porn is evil. It is serious and corrupts the mind and destroys lives. It really shouldn't be taken lightly and joked about.
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bwawwa so does playing video games :rolleyes:

So does this and that. Please sex and sexual stuff have been around just as long as human civilization.
 
Neo said:
I agree. I believe, with my whole heart, that parents need to try and shield young kids from the stuff though. I was exposed to porn (thanks to an older brother that didn't care where he left his magazines and tapes) at a very early age, and I honestly wish that I could change that.

The whole "porn is evil" thing gets very, very murky if you start debating the deeper issues like what it does to women etc. and again when brought into light of religion. But that stuff aside, from a personal opinion, I believe it can be just as dangerous as drugs in the fact that it can become addictive and have a very negative impact on a person's life.

The same as with gaming. Some people have a healthy mindset where they can clearly distinguish the difference between shooting a polygon in the face, and shooting a person for real (in the face). If you expose the wrong kind of person to violent games you're going to create a problem. If you expose the wrong kind of person to porn, you're going to end up with a problem as well.

Didn't Charles Manson say that porn was one of his biggest motivations for doing the gruesome stuff he did? It makes you think.

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LMAO - I see what you did there, but please, stop bringing chocolate into this. Chocolate is good, and pure. :) You get what I'm trying to say though. I don't think chocolate and porn is really on the same level here. You're not going to "wait for your wedding night" before unwrapping your first Nosh bar. lol. I think you've just created the term "premarital chocolate". :D

Seriously though. There are many bad and addictive stuff out there. Porn is especially dangerous in that it can cause self-loathing and a whole bunch of inwardly negative views. I don't recall ever berating myself for eating a Nosh.
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Not wanting to start anything but charles manson was an excessive lair and manipulater. Everyone thought he was an acid head as well but His former followers claim they never actually saw him take lsd. Also I think his motivation was he couldn't get into the music industry and got very pissed off also he had a history of being in and out of jail all his life. You could say he was a product of the system. He was just a twisted fool and I don't think porn is to blame. I mean if porn was to blame wouldn't we all be committing acts of crime? I just think people like to blame things other then them selves.

/end charles manson.
 
Tsar said:
Not wanting to start anything but charles manson was an excessive lair and manipulater. Everyone thought he was an acid head as well but His former followers claim they never actually saw him take lsd. Also I think his motivation was he couldn't get into the music industry and got very pissed off also he had a history of being in and out of jail all his life. You could say he was a product of the system. He was just a twisted fool and I don't think porn is to blame. I mean if porn was to blame wouldn't we all be committing acts of crime? I just think people like to blame things other then them selves.

/end charles manson.
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Wut. :confused: Massive digression of note. Thank you Tsar, that added a lot to this debate. lol
 
No it was Ted Bundy who said porn was the catalyst but that guy was just plain cray. I mean he and a buddy found a stash of porn mags in an alley when they were young. They both got their jollies from it and the friend just walked away, left it that. Ted on the other hand was hooked immediately. It was almost a whole life of sexual obsession for him but he could never find what he liked and stick with it, he was always looking for more and more extreme images. When he couldn't find them. He made them himself.
 
James said:
Lol Neo, not trying to undermine the validity of your comment because you are right, but the same could be said of chocolate:

I agree with the sentiment that chocolate definitely is evil and it's very, very addictive. But ultimately, I don't believe that chocolate in itself is the addictive part - it's the whole routine of what follows ending in a rush of endorphins. So it forms part of a larger addiction. I'm not criticizing anyone, I just strongly believe that chocolate has a real bad side to it concerning the people using it.

So besides the debates about how damaging it is to woman/children/dolphins etc. I think people need to be aware of the damaging affects chocolate may have to the end-users too. It really can ruin relationships, marriages and your self esteem. It's actually quite dangerous if you think about it and you tend to understand why there are so many groups against it. More importantly, why it's important to shield young stomachs from it. If you don't approach chocolate with an adult, mature mindset it really can cause major damage.
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Had a good laugh at this, nice.
 
Porn is no more or less destructive than anything else, really. Chocolate can just as easily destroy a marriage as porn. It is also just as harmful to young children as porn is. Have you seen what some children today look like? I mean, I can't talk, I've been overweight since childhood, but it is distressing to see 10 year old children weighing 60 and still stuffing their faces.

Porn can be bad for you, but no more or less than most other things. I'll agree with Neo that the way women are portrayed in porn is very often problematic and leads to misconceptions about what a woman's role during sex is supposed to be.

Out of curiosity, Neo, is one of your issues with porn also that it promotes sex outside of marriage? I kinda got that vibe from your previous post. Some people think it's wrong, some people don't. I actually think it's something that's dying out, with less people bothering to wait for marriage before they have sex and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Premarital sex is something that's largely up to the individual, so I wouldn't hold it up as a problem with porn, just a problem for some people.
 
Clive Woofer said:
Porn is no more or less destructive than anything else, really. Chocolate can just as easily destroy a marriage as porn. It is also just as harmful to young children as porn is. Have you seen what some children today look like? I mean, I can't talk, I've been overweight since childhood, but it is distressing to see 10 year old children weighing 60 and still stuffing their faces.

Porn can be bad for you, but no more or less than most other things. I'll agree with Neo that the way women are portrayed in porn is very often problematic and leads to misconceptions about what a woman's role during sex is supposed to be.

Out of curiosity, Neo, is one of your issues with porn also that it promotes sex outside of marriage? I kinda got that vibe from your previous post. Some people think it's wrong, some people don't. I actually think it's something that's dying out, with less people bothering to wait for marriage before they have sex and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Premarital sex is something that's largely up to the individual, so I wouldn't hold it up as a problem with porn, just a problem for some people.
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Its never been a big thing to do. Maybe in the 50s but other than that most people don't wait till marriage.
 
Sjoe. The topic of sex outside of marriage is quite a big one. Strictly speaking as a Christian, I have to say that there is no place for sex outside of marriage. However, I am sad to say that I couldn't keep to that ideal myself. I really, honestly admire couples who stick to that resolve. I would also totally respect any woman that says she wants to wait and "save herself" for marriage. However, I've also thought that some couples marry way too young and way too early simply because they didn't want to break their vows. What tends to happen then is divorce, because they got married for the wrong reasons completely. Divorce, in my opinion, is much worse than sex before marriage. Just to clarify, I don't believe porn does any more promotion for sex before marriage than what general society already does. Look at tv shows like friends, frasier and big bang. Sex galore, no marriage. So I wouldn't single out porn for that at all. It actually doesn't offend me because, like you said, it's a personal choice. It does make raising a kid with Christian guidelines more tricky, having to explain that pop culture isn't always exemplary.

Yeah - shucks, it's a tough one hey? I try my best to base my decisions off of God's word, and the age old adage goes "times may change but God doesn't" so I can't sit here and condemn the whole sex before marriage thing, because I'm human too and it's quite tricky. I guess when it comes to this topic I'm quite liberal, but that doesn't make me right.

I do, however, as a guy, think it's wrong when guys use women simply for sex. I believe you do create a bond with the person you sleep with and there's no real sex without strings attached. But I also think that might just be my gentleman side coming out. People these days don't really treat it as "special" anymore as much as they should, and that's just sad. I could ponder back and forth on this topic for days, but I fear everyone here might die of boredom. So in short: don't be a fool, wrap your tool. :)

Ps. The only time when chocolate can ruin a marriage is when your wife ate a Lindt slab which you specifically told her is yours. I speak from experience lol
 
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