Kevin
The Dude
Watch Dogs gets first official patch from Ubisoft
Whether your copy of Watch Dogs worked or not, this patch is good news for everybody
Whether your copy of Watch Dogs worked or not, this patch is good news for everybody
Watch Dogs finally gets patch from Ubisoft
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I don't think it's too little too late for everybody. Maybe for the first adopters, yes. But for guys like me who've held out, it's becoming more and more plausible to buy the game. Like I said, once the patches are all out and the mods are available to make this game look as good as it should have looked in the beginning, I'll pick up my copy for PC. Probably for cheaper as well.
Gamers (generalizing here) should stop moaning and start waiting a little longer before buying something. It's one trick that's basically saved my gaming lifestyle and has brought in nothing but benefits financially AND with the expectations I have with games.
Gamers (generalizing here) should stop moaning and start waiting a little longer before buying something. It's one trick that's basically saved my gaming lifestyle and has brought in nothing but benefits financially AND with the expectations I have with games.
to0kenZA
New member
I agree with this. Acceptance and complacency, in all aspects of life, is the first step to being fucked over again, and again. And again. Stop taking the bad things for granted and stand up for yourself for a change. This game being released in the state it was is NOT OK.
And Neo, good luck waiting for the price to come down. If you're not getting lucky during this Steam Summer Sale, you're going to wait a loooooooong time for the price to come down.
Basically what I'm saying is take a wait-and-see approach more often before buying something and then moaning about it. Sorry gents, but this whole mentality of "vote with your wallet" does sweet blue f'all to big corporations. They'll release a game when they want to, in the state they want it. They don't care whether or not you're happy with it. So if you go out, after all that's happened in the industry lately, and still pre-order games - then you only have yourself to kick if those titles turn out to be bombs.
It's fine by me if the masses go out and buy the game on day one and moan about bugs etc. Generals don't rush out with first line infantry for a reason. It depends on how smart you want to be with your money. That is all.
All I'm hearing is "shoulda, woulda, coulda"...with more perfect-world jabbering. Back in the old days, games came with "artists impressions" pictures of what the game looks like on the back of the box. Gamers knew that they weren't going to get that in-game. What happened to gamers using their brains for the actual PURCHASE of the games as well?
It's fine by me if the masses go out and buy the game on day one and moan about bugs etc. Generals don't rush out with first line infantry for a reason. It depends on how smart you want to be with your money. That is all.
All I'm hearing is "shoulda, woulda, coulda"...with more perfect-world jabbering. Back in the old days, games came with "artists impressions" pictures of what the game looks like on the back of the box. Gamers knew that they weren't going to get that in-game. What happened to gamers using their brains for the actual PURCHASE of the games as well?
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Dohc-WP
Ron Burgundy
you never know it might be in a humble bundle next week
I wish more people would understand that. Don't pre-order if you can't handle bugs on launch. Vote with your wallet.
It's only complacency when you allow it to happen again and again. If you withhold payment until the game is of sufficient quality you aren't being complacent, you are being clever. Being complacent is moaning about every buggy release yet buying every new game on release anyway.
Careful, you can't go around saying something that disagrees with the general opinion. Minority opinions aren't welcome by many members. Have some rep. I'm feeling generous as I was down-reped this morning for having my own opinion.
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to0kenZA
New member
What you fail to realize here is that there are people out there that does NOT buy every game that comes out. People bought this game based on what they saw and what picture the developers painted. There's a difference between marketing hype and blatant false advertising. Shipping a fucking broken game, that has features disabled even, should be illegal.
What will you do if you buy a car with aircon, pay R15 000 extra, and realize it has doesn't have an aircon, just a fan. Will you say then "No, but you should have known an aircon is sometimes just another name for a fan?".
I'm sorry dude, but no matter which way you look at it- this is bullshit. All of it. There are LOTS of people that completely stop buying games from certain developers, so your argument is pretty much moot. For those that do not follow this market and news everyday, how are they supposed to know?
Jan
Grand Poobah
What about those of us who agree with you that we should stop pre-ordering, but also think that what Ubisoft has done here is unacceptable (and that Watch Dogs isn't that great a game in the first place)?
DieGrootHammer
Daddy TK
I think I'm more interested in this debate about the game than the actual game itself...:wtf:
How about my 2c to it: While I am happy that the game will be patched, and will most certainly give it a good whack once it launches on the PC, I am still flabbergasted about the fact that the norm is to ship games that are not 100% as would be expected. It is completely acceptable for me to assume a big, professional development house like Ubisoft will release a game in working conditions at launch. I'm not going to "vote with my wallet" because I should be able to have a working game after the developer gives me the option of buying it.
It is a sad commentary on the state of the industry that we have to have this debate. It is sad that we have to accept that a game we buy fresh from the shelves will need time to patch and fix before it will be playable to many of it's buyers. This is evident not just in Watch Dogs, but in so many games being released that's buggy as hell. How many threads and complaints have been thrown to EA, Ubisoft, Rockstar and many other developers that their games does not work on PC when it launches. How many games launches with massive compulsory day one patches. Hell, even when the PS4 and Xbox One released they had day-one patches. It's a cancer of the industry
Now you can either accept this fact and learn to live with it, rather waiting to buy games at start and let the patches fix the initial problems, or you can voice your concern about this atrocious mentality of launching buggy games. It's sad that we need to see consumers like us be labeled as "early adopters" when buying a game at launch. I mean come on, I'm not buying a beta build that I have to accept the issues as they are and hope they are fixed. I'm buying a game that should be in it's final form; it's final bug-free form.
How about my 2c to it: While I am happy that the game will be patched, and will most certainly give it a good whack once it launches on the PC, I am still flabbergasted about the fact that the norm is to ship games that are not 100% as would be expected. It is completely acceptable for me to assume a big, professional development house like Ubisoft will release a game in working conditions at launch. I'm not going to "vote with my wallet" because I should be able to have a working game after the developer gives me the option of buying it.
It is a sad commentary on the state of the industry that we have to have this debate. It is sad that we have to accept that a game we buy fresh from the shelves will need time to patch and fix before it will be playable to many of it's buyers. This is evident not just in Watch Dogs, but in so many games being released that's buggy as hell. How many threads and complaints have been thrown to EA, Ubisoft, Rockstar and many other developers that their games does not work on PC when it launches. How many games launches with massive compulsory day one patches. Hell, even when the PS4 and Xbox One released they had day-one patches. It's a cancer of the industry
Now you can either accept this fact and learn to live with it, rather waiting to buy games at start and let the patches fix the initial problems, or you can voice your concern about this atrocious mentality of launching buggy games. It's sad that we need to see consumers like us be labeled as "early adopters" when buying a game at launch. I mean come on, I'm not buying a beta build that I have to accept the issues as they are and hope they are fixed. I'm buying a game that should be in it's final form; it's final bug-free form.
That's fine, everybody is entitled to an opinion (hopefully). There are many games that other people love, that I simply don't understand or doesn't appeal to me.
But if you aren't sure whether something would appeal to you, why would you pre-order the game? Why not wait for friends / trusted reviewers to review the game and then deciding for yourself?
If the game was really that broken, why didn't you refund it? Ask VISA or Mastercard to refund it if Ubisoft refuses to. Remember Simcity? Thousands of people got their money back when the product that was shipped failed to match up with the advertised product. Why haven't we heard of a single person who has done that with Watch Dogs?
Bold They are suppose to do proper research then before buying. If they don't buy every game they have all the more reason to properly investigate and only buy games that they will truly enjoy. And I'm sorry, but you can't guarantee that prior to launch anymore. Nobody can.
Do you have any idea how big such a project is? This is a multi million dollar project, with thousands of people working on it through tens of different subsidiaries and cities. Working on 4 different platforms of the game. It is not possible to release a project of this scope without issues. I have said this a hundred times, but here it is again. Can you name one game of this size that launched without any issues?
I work in a company of about 50 employees, mostly engineers, and we do our best to ensure that our products are bug free. But these things still happen. Now take that and multiply it by 40 and then by 4 more and tell me that you really expect it to be flawless on launch.
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to0kenZA
New member
I just cannot believe that you are defending this shoddy shit that the developers get away with these days. Man that fucks me off, actually. I'll admit that I was an idiot for buying this game, but that doesn't mean that I can still decide not to support YET ANOTHER big name in the gaming industry. I simply ignore games from the AAA devs and publishers I have chosen not to support anymore, and if Ubisoft does not prove themselves with their next release, I will just simply stop buying their games, just like I'm not buying the other AAA games.
What I have a problem with is the acceptance that this is the norm. Poor service delivery and an unfinished and intentionally downgraded product. If you think that's OK, then I guess you can enjoy your next KFC burger with maggots and all.
What I have a problem with is the acceptance that this is the norm. Poor service delivery and an unfinished and intentionally downgraded product. If you think that's OK, then I guess you can enjoy your next KFC burger with maggots and all.
Graal
New member
Same here. I don't know what galls me more- that developers and publisher pull stunts like this in the first place, or that there are people actually defending these poor business practices.
If you can't handle a few issues on launch you really shouldn't be pre-ordering. Wait a few months and then buy the good games on special. You'll do your health a favour and you'll save money. Win win.
I wish I knew what industry some of you worked in, and for which companies because apparently your HUGE projects are always perfect on launch and never have any issues whatsoever.
Still waiting for that one example of a game of this size that launched without any issues...