Kevin
The Dude
SA’s Internet speeds suck
According to new research, South Africa is sliding down the International bandwidth rankings
According to new research, South Africa is sliding down the International bandwidth rankings
SA’s Internet speeds suck
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DuckKnuckle
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Can't say I'm surprised.
With Telkom being one of the only telecommunication companies in South Africa and being the monopoly it is, it's gonna be a long while before we see any noticeable changes.
FTTH is rolling out to certain areas but is still at astronomical prices. Instead of them thinking long term and lowering the prices to invite more people, they'll try to maximise their profit.
Look at Google Fiber in the US - $70 for a 1GB up and down connection.
With Telkom being one of the only telecommunication companies in South Africa and being the monopoly it is, it's gonna be a long while before we see any noticeable changes.
FTTH is rolling out to certain areas but is still at astronomical prices. Instead of them thinking long term and lowering the prices to invite more people, they'll try to maximise their profit.
Look at Google Fiber in the US - $70 for a 1GB up and down connection.
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chan0o
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It's not like telkom didn't get a chance to partner with Korean Telecoms... Damn politics getting involved!
I image that if they did, the baseline of ADSLs could've been 10mbps by 2015.
Glordit
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I think many of us forgot where we came have come from originally... 56k Dial up, ISDN 64/128, the AMAZING 384k (with our 10Gb national and 1Gb international caps) all the way to 1Mb/s standard and now in certain areas 40 Mb/s DSL.
Still telkom sucks and will continue to do so, sadly the alternatives cost too much for the average consumer.
Still telkom sucks and will continue to do so, sadly the alternatives cost too much for the average consumer.
Ser_Bunnylot
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Nah, can't look at it that way. The top broadband countries also had the same beginnings with dial up and what not. They just moved many many times faster than our fat cats in gubbament and hellkom. Don't accept mediocrity :-D
chan0o
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Kwaai
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Sad but true.The Internet Sucks, The government Sucks, Eskom Sucks, The justice system sucks - see there's a pattern
Glordit
Neo Zeon
The Internet Sucks, The government Sucks, Eskom Sucks, The justice system sucks - see there's a pattern
Top broadband countries saw a need to advance their growing populations need for information 20 years ago and made provision for the increase of speed and bandwidth, so that future generations may benefit.
Also:
- http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/15/4226428/sony-so-net-2gbps-download-internet-tokyo-japan I am motivated to move to Asia even more now! *applies to work at the Japanese Geographical Society*
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chan0o
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The Internet Sucks, The government Sucks, Eskom Sucks, The justice system sucks - see there's a pattern
Justice system: condemns you for pointing out flaws.
Eskom: tells you not to use electricity.
ISPs: controlled by a monopoly.
In other news, Government wonders why there's a lack of growth.
Lycanthrope
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FarligOpptreden
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So you are surprised?
Nah, I think in this context it's rather a sarcastic quip owing to the fact that the situation is SO ridiculous that he can't say he's not surprised, even though he would like to. The stupidity of the parties involved is just expected, so there can't be any surprise whatsoever.
Semantics, my dear Scandi.
Lycanthrope
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Nah, I think in this context it's rather a sarcastic quip owing to the fact that the situation is SO ridiculous that he can't say he's not surprised, even though he would like to. The stupidity of the parties involved is just expected, so there can't be any surprise whatsoever.
Semantics, my dear Scandi.
So you're saying that he just fails at using idiomatic expressions correctly? :wtf:
FarligOpptreden
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So you're saying that he just fails at using idiomatic expressions correctly? :wtf:
I think in THIS context it might fit, as the mere utterance of "I'm not surprised" would mean that at least some surprising qualities are in the article which, in fact, there aren't. So he probably just stated the fact the he CAN'T say he's not surprised, even though he isn't, because the article rings true on every possible level.
Lycanthrope
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I think in THIS context it might fit, as the mere utterance of "I'm not surprised" would mean that at least some surprising qualities are in the article which, in fact, there aren't. So he probably just stated the fact the he CAN'T say he's not surprised, even though he isn't, because the article rings true on every possible level.
This is very basic English. You have two options:
1. I can't say that I'm surprised.
2. I'm not surprised.
The option of "I can't say that I'm not surprised" is what you might call a "mixed idiom" and a double-negative.
It's not grammatically correct; it's poor English and, above all, it fails to convey the intended sarcasm (and thus the meaning).
Also, I'm struggling to understand how you could possibly know what he "really" meant--hence the reason I asked him.
FarligOpptreden
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Dude, chillax. I'm mocking the idiotic situation (re: SA internet speeds) and playing a bit of devil's advocate. I KNOW the idiom was used incorrectly, I was just trying to show that there can't be ANY surprises in our guavamint so even talking about surprise in said context is unwarrented.
Rather go outside and enjoy the beautiful autumns you guys have and send me some Julmust when winter arrives!
Rather go outside and enjoy the beautiful autumns you guys have and send me some Julmust when winter arrives!
Lycanthrope
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But that's the point... He's saying that he is surprised, which makes no sense given the unsurprising context of the article.
Also, I am chillaxed. I just don't think we're understanding each other particularly well
Rather go outside and enjoy the beautiful autumns you guys have and send me some Julmust when winter arrives!
Nothing beautiful about it yet, although the trees are gradually turning brown. Just not enough to appreciate all the Autumnal colours.
I could be convinced to send you some Julmust if you're prepared to pay for the shipping and ask nicely come the time
Also: unwarranted
DuckKnuckle
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Lycanthrope is being a dick? Can't say I'm not surprised
Stop judging the wording of one line hahaha
Also - edited first post by removing one word that seems to be causing quite a scene with the grammar nazis.
Stop judging the wording of one line hahaha
Also - edited first post by removing one word that seems to be causing quite a scene with the grammar nazis.
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FarligOpptreden
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Guess we should switch over to Svensk then...But that's the point... He's saying that he is surprised, which makes no sense given the unsurprising context of the article.
Also, I am chillaxed. I just don't think we're understanding each other particularly well
Jag talar lite Svenska. (No, I didn't use Google Translate for that)Det år mycket skitbra! Jag göra det. Tack!Nothing beautiful about it yet, although the trees are gradually turning brown. Just not enough to appreciate all the Autumnal colours.
I could be convinced to send you some Julmust if you're prepared to pay for the shipping and ask nicely come the time
Jag såg att efter "posting"... Typing on a phone on the can, yo!Also: unwarranted
Dude, it was just me taking a shot at Lycan for being a grammar nazi and pointing out the pathetic state of telecoms affairs in our country. No harm intended.Lycanthrope is being a dick? Can't say I'm not surprised
Stop judging the wording of one line hahaha
Also - edited first post by removing one word that seems to be causing quite a scene with the grammar nazis.