The firearms thread
- Thread starter GReeN_ORB
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InSanity
Just wants the trophy
AFAIK they do use the cheapest of cheap rounds but shouldnt cause problems
as for guns G23 do want !!!!
GReeN_ORB
Persistent illusion
Define "range-rounds" and "damage". I've had a ton of failure-to-fires with the reloaded ammo (e.g. Diplopoint ammo) that most ranges sell, but in terms of outright damage, I haven't seen or heard of direct damage cause by these rounds (anecdotal evidence, naturally).
GReeN_ORB
Persistent illusion
Is it true that guns don't kill people?
I just took my Sig off my belt, put it on the desk in front of me and - in my sternest command voice, I may add - instructed it to shoot me. For some unfathomable reason, it was unable to.
So I'm going to go with a "no, guns don't kill people" response to your question.
I don't have a gun yet
And when you do, you won't own it (even if it is "your" gun
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sozforbigpic. Was too busy eyeing the Sig to make sure it didn't shoot me, to resize the image.
Hiro
New member
yeah, i mean misfires with rounds that are filled on the cheap by a shooting range. can they end up damaging the barrel, due to inferior copper jackets ?
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yup, thats the piece i'm rolling with
Along with .40 cal hollow point rounds
MetalSoup
There's a GIF for that
Tsar
The thing that should not be
I just took my Sig off my belt, put it on the desk in front of me and - in my sternest command voice, I may add - instructed it to shoot me. For some unfathomable reason, it was unable to.
So I'm going to go with a "no, guns don't kill people" response to your question.
And when you do, you won't own it (even if it is "your" gun
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sozforbigpic. Was too busy eyeing the Sig to make sure it didn't shoot me, to resize the image.
That may be so but I get to one day shoot it at people
Also get to play with military equipment also its england I won't be allowed to own a gun also is that a pea shooter
GReeN_ORB
Persistent illusion
To my mind (lots of opinion here), the biggest risks with range rounds are a round which is loaded significantly overpressure (causing detonation in the chamber), or a round which has no powder in it (a squib round). The detonating round is the biggest risk and would likely damage the gun significantly - or blow it up (google "blown up handgun image). The squib is a lesser risk, if you're paying attention, as it would leave a bullet in the barrel of the handgun which would cause a blown up gun if you were inattentive enough to manually cycle after the failure-to-eject that a squib would cause and then fire the next round.
In terms of damaging the barrel, through excess copper fouling, I wouldn't say that's a serious issue. Personally, I clean my pistol every two hundred or so rounds by runing a patch coated with bore cleaner (like Hoppes) through the barrel and leaving the barrel to 'soak' for a few hours. Copper fouling comes out pretty easily after that.
I have read, on Gunsite of one of the well respected members not cleaning his Glock for 1000 rounds, and it still functioning perfectly, so I might be being paranoid by cleaning it so regularly
GReeN_ORB
Persistent illusion
I treat it very well
That may be so but I get to one day shoot it at people
Downside to shooting at people is that said people are generally armed, and shoot back
And no, not a pea shooter. Filthy hobbitses talking mean about my pretty Sig.
I've read mixed comments on this. One camp seem to think that leaving rounds in a magazine (i.e. spring is under permanent compression) does shorten the life of the spring. The other camp believes that springs are weakened by the constant cycling (i.e. compression converted to tension) of the magazine spring.
Based on what little I know of mechanical engineering, I believe that the cycling of the spring causes fatigue, not permanent compression.
Stunt
New member
That may be so but I get to one day shoot it at people
Not half as exciting as you'd think it to be. Also, your competency might be challenged, which will lose you, your gun privileges.
GReeN_ORB
Persistent illusion
Afaik, he's referring to joining the Royal Marines, and probably shooting at people whilst deployed in the Middle East
Stunt
New member
Afaik, he's referring to joining the Royal Marines, and probably shooting at people whilst deployed in the Middle East
I know. Given their legend and comparing to my experience, field competency is tested often enough to warrant psychological flaw more often than not. In all NATO supporting armies, this immediately relieves you of your gun-toting rights.
People change a lot when they've been shot at and have shot at other people - Not everyone is cut out for it.
GReeN_ORB
Persistent illusion
Completely agree. What's your experience (in uniform, I presume) been?
Tsar
The thing that should not be
Just to let you know I am only joking. 90% of the job you sit and do nothing. I am not going into the army just to see action. I have researched the shit out of the royal marines and currently they are not being deployed in the middle east at the moment. I am doing this so I have something to be proud of. I don't want to be an idle person anymore.
Stunt
New member
2003 - 2007 Légion étrangère 13th DBLE, Stationed in UAE under the French DCA, was part of multiple Joint Operations around Iraq/Afghan. Basic defense though.
@Tsar, I'm just hoping you're ready
You can be deployed pretty fast, no real warning and then things take a turn within you. Make sure you're head strong and become an Officer if you can
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GReeN_ORB
Persistent illusion
2003 - 2007 Légion étrangère 13th DBLE, Stationed in UAE under the French DCA, was part of multiple Joint Operations around Iraq/Afghan. Basic defense though.
@Tsar, I'm just hoping you're ready
Perhaps a question for it's own thread, but how did you end up in the French Foreign Legion?
And Tsar is definitely head-strong... but perhaps not in the way you mean, lol