32 or 64 bit

wizdumb

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i currently run winXP (with SP3), i want to upgrade to win7. now how would i know if my current pc can run win7 64bit, or must it be 32bit (will be upgrading my pc in 2-3months but until then)

2nd question, do i just buy a retail version of win7 and install it like i would any other piece of software
 
Better buy and go 64x since you want to be able to actually use 4 gig and more ram. The os install is pretty easy, and yes it's like windows xp. You might find that some old apps just doesn't want to work in win64x, but those cases are few.
 
cool, but how would i know my that my current pc can run 64bit...is this mobo dependent, or what? what would requirements be so to speak?
 
cool, but how would i know my that my current pc can run 64bit...is this mobo dependent, or what? what would requirements be so to speak?
If you want to run Windows 7 on your PC, here's what it takes:

1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor

1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)

16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)

DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver

well my amd sledgehammer was 64x... if you really don't know you cpu/mb then get something like cpuid and look it up :)
 
IF you plan on buying, I would hold off till we have an ETA on Windows 8.
But 64bit is def the way forward, especially with games like BF 3 using around 2GB of ram, you would need at least 6-8GB and 32bit does not recognize more than 3GB of ram.
 
IF you plan on buying, I would hold off till we have an ETA on Windows 8.
But 64bit is def the way forward, especially with games like BF 3 using around 2GB of ram, you would need at least 6-8GB and 32bit does not recognize more than 3GB of ram.
As well as when you want to start playing with VMs which I tend to do more and more these days, more ram the merrier.
 
As well as when you want to start playing with VMs which I tend to do more and more these days, more ram the merrier.

Absolutely.

Ram prices are quite cheap at the moment, so might be a good idea to invest in a good 8GB kit, Future proofing yourself and cashing in on the current ram prices. Although I am referring to DDR3. DDR2 prices are insane.
 
have 4gb ram on m current rig, however i will be upgrading soon *touch wood*

however, it seems that i need win7 to run bf3 - never paid attention to that system requirement for the game thus my reason for upgrading from xp to 7
 
Will upgrading to 64bit with 4 gigs ram improve fps in games or won't there be a difference between 32 and 64 bit.
 
Will upgrading to 64bit with 4 gigs ram improve fps in games or won't there be a difference between 32 and 64 bit.

64 bit does use more resources, however if you have the 4 gigs of ram already then it will help quite a bit as Windows will be able to recognise the other 750 odd megs of ram that 32 bit can't.
 
Yes my windows 7 became choppy so I reinstalled Windows xp, now my 4gig RAM only shows as 3.3gig, but it's not really a hassle atm but i will upgrade again later when i have more stable version or when Windows 8 comes and it looks decent, not like that vista crap, but ye only problem atm is i can't play BF3, but Skyrim will take all the blues away. :D
 
Will upgrading to 64bit with 4 gigs ram improve fps in games or won't there be a difference between 32 and 64 bit.

I haven't seen any noticeable difference in performance between the two.
It's nice to have more available ram though and you won't have to get a new OS if you want more at some point.
 
Yes my windows 7 became choppy so I reinstalled Windows xp, now my 4gig RAM only shows as 3.3gig, but it's not really a hassle atm but i will upgrade again later when i have more stable version or when Windows 8 comes and it looks decent, not like that vista crap, but ye only problem atm is i can't play BF3, but Skyrim will take all the blues away. :D

Windows 7 is plenty stable.
 
I heard somewhere that even thought windows will only see 3.5/4gb of ram applications can still use the other 512mb of ram? How true is this?
 
Not true.

Applications can only use memory that Windows can assign to them. If Windows cant see it, neither can they. The other portion of your memory is not being used at all, not by anything.

The reason for this concerns memory mapped IO and whats called an address space. An address space refers to all memory that the computer can access. It normally means main memory, except when memory mapped IO is involved (and it always is on modern computers). One quick note, programs have their own address space which is distinct to the windows address space. A program's address space is also smaller than the windows address space, since it must be able to fit into the windows address space. The biggest unsigned number that a 32 bit computer address is around 4 billion, which is why a 32 bit computer can access 4GB of memory, at maximum. However, this is not what Windows sees, and memory mapped IO is the reason. Memory mapped IO assigns a portion of that address space - which normally points to main memory - to your other devices, such as your sound card and your graphics card. This is convenient for programmers because it means we only have one address space to work with, but it means our 4GB address space has to be shared with both main memory and all devices. Obviously, since we need devices, main memory must shrink. This is why main memory becomes reduced in size.

These days, there is no reason to use 32 bit at all. You should never use it, even if only have 2GB of RAM right now. You'll just run into headaches when you eventually expand your memory. I've been using 64 bit windows since the Vista days, back in 2007, and never had any problems with it.
 
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There isn't really much reason to not install 64 bit. Most all systems built in the last 7 years or so support it, and eventually you will need it.
 
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