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DenSweeP

DenSweeP

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If I have two ADSL accounts with two different ISP's, how do I setup my router to switch between then two? Is there a method to do it automatically or must I manually disconnect the one connection and then dial out on the other?

I'm using a D-Link DSL-2640u.
 
I can get both accounts details on the router, but how do I tell the router which account/connection to use? I don't feel like having to delete one accounts' settings. surely that should not be neccesary?
 
You can try using PPPoE miniport connections.. Just make 2 shortcuts on your desktop and run them from there. You will have to bridge your modem though.
 
Unfortunately I can't help much. But I guess this would primarily be to reduce your latency when playing Black Ops?

I might consider doing that with my WA account should the latency be appalling.
 
Yeah, I love my WA account for the price and what I get, but it is useless for when I want to play COD, so I need options and I'm trying to figure out the easiest way to switch between two ISPs when dialing/connecting.
 
I understand, I am probably going to be sitting with the same dilemma. Like it was mentioned, being on the SAIX backbone gives you the disadvantage, unfortunately, I am on that too. So... time to look at options. I am not sure how the bridging works, it makes sense, but how does one do the connection to the other ISP without logging onto the router?
 
XeroS1x said:
I understand, I am probably going to be sitting with the same dilemma. Like it was mentioned, being on the SAIX backbone gives you the disadvantage, unfortunately, I am on that too. So... time to look at options. I am not sure how the bridging works, it makes sense, but how does one do the connection to the other ISP without logging onto the router?
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Your router has several ways of operating. It can be in PPPoE, PPPoA or Bridge (Modem only). You have to go into your modem's ADSL or WAN settings. There you will see options allowing you change it's mode. It will be on PPPoE so just change that to Bridge/Modem Only. This means that PAP authentication won't be done on the modem anymore, but instead it will be done from the PPPoE miniport on your PC.

Simply said, this will allow you to run different PPPoE type connections from your PC without having to change the credentials on the modem itself everytime you want to use a different account. When I get home I will post a couple of screenshots to show you how to do it, if you want? @ Densweep
 
Sweet. Only snag with that is that then any other notebook or wi-fi device will also need to have PPPoE setup and establish their own connections?

Can I not leave my normal WebAfrica account running as per usual on the router and then create a PPPoE "icon" on my PC and just dial in with that? Will it not then bypass the WA account and make new connection, yet leave the WA active for other devices?

Screenies always useful. Tooken, where do you live again?
 
DenSweeP said:
Sweet. Only snag with that is that then any other notebook or wi-fi device will also need to have PPPoE setup and establish their own connections?

Can I not leave my normal WebAfrica account running as per usual on the router and then create a PPPoE "icon" on my PC and just dial in with that? Will it not then bypass the WA account and make new connection, yet leave the WA active for other devices?

Screenies always useful. Tooken, where do you live again?
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I stay in Somerset West hey.

Unfortunately you won't be able to do it like that. When you're router is bridged, it only serves as a modem. So yes, all devices using this setup will have to dial miniport PPPoE connections. That's why I wanted to ask you first who's all using it, if it's only you or maybe your wife, kids etc.

Unless..I want to try something first tonight to see If I can maybe get it to work with your router being on PPPoE. I'll let you know.
 
to0kenZA said:
I stay in Somerset West hey.

Unfortunately you won't be able to do it like that. When you're router is bridged, it only serves as a modem. So yes, all devices using this setup will have to dial miniport PPPoE connections. That's why I wanted to ask you first who's all using it, if it's only you or maybe your wife, kids etc.

Unless..I want to try something first tonight to see If I can maybe get it to work with your router being on PPPoE. I'll let you know.
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Yeah if your connection is PPPoE on your router then you can make as many dailup PPPoE connection as you want in windows without changing any settings on your router then you will still have internet as long as you got cap on that router account.

Some times routers call this semi-bridged as well.

best way is don't touch your router just set up a PPPoE first if you can't connect then go into your router and change the settings.
 
Ok, so if I understand right, leave as is, just create a Afrihost PPPoE in Windows and voila? Wife can still use her laptop as she has always done? She will connect via the WA while I'm on Afrhost on my windows PPPoE? Theoretically.
 
DenSweeP said:
Ok, so if I understand right, leave as is, just create a Afrihost PPPoE in Windows and voila? Wife can still use her laptop as she has always done? She will connect via the WA while I'm on Afrhost on my windows PPPoE? Theoretically.
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Yes, try that first. I'm going to check at home tonight if I can run a PPPoE connection from my PC seperate from my router's connection.

When you try to run the WAN miniport connection from your PC while your router is not in bridge mode, then it will tell you that the port/device is busy and you will be unable to do so. I think that you will have to used your router in bridged mode in the end, but there might be a way. I'll have to research a bit first.
 
to0kenZA said:
Yes, try that first. I'm going to check at home tonight if I can run a PPPoE connection from my PC seperate from my router's connection.

When you try to run the WAN miniport connection from your PC while your router is not in bridge mode, then it will tell you that the port/device is busy and you will be unable to do so. I think that you will have to used your router in bridged mode in the end, but there might be a way. I'll have to research a bit first.
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Best you get to it then! I need it sorted by tomorrow! :p :p
 
Ok, I basically checked around for settings on my modem, but it does not support half-bridged mode. As far as I understand, half-bridged mode still disabled all routing capability on the modem. So basically, it's just a modem, not a router.

You cannot run WAN miniport connections on a router that's running PPPoE encapsulation because of this concept:

If your router is doing the PPPoE then your computer can't and vice versa. So you have 2 options.

Either set up all your PC with WAN miniport connections, or get another DSL line and a second modem. I would go for the first option though lol.


So basically, to set it into bridge mode you need to log onto your router. I'm assuming you know how :) If not just shout.

There should be a tab or menu that says ADSL or WAN. I'm going to post a screenie of how mine looks like:

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As you can see there, mine is under WAN and then "quickstart" which is the default instance for my router's setup.

The next step would be to set your encapsulation to Bridge. On some routers it might be called "Modem-only".

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Also make sure that your Bridge encapsulation is set to LLC instead of VC. As you can see in my screenshot, I had to bridge my modem to LAN group 1, but on most routers I have seen this is not necessary or even applicable.

After that, to test if you have done it right, all you need to do is run your WAN miniport connection and if it works, that's all there is to it.
 
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Got to disagree I have had no problems when my router in PPPoE to connect to any other isp.

Sigh why does mygaming picture upload crop my pictures to a size where you can't see the writing.
 
Did a quick search.

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/196528-D-Link-DSL-2640U-Bridged-not-working

Reply #5 Seems to be what you're after?

aks, the DSL 2640U can be configured in half-bridge mode too. Thats to say if you wanted to use something like RouteSentry, and only dial one PPPoE connection from the PC.

One of my friends is using it in that configuration: letting the router dial the international account. That way his parents can use the internet AND he can still dial local only accounts from his PC to play games with local only cap.

The router doesn't have a mode called half-bridge though. Its simply 2 WAN interfaces: 1 bridge mode & 1 PPPoE
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I see you have a much higher firmware version there.

What other settings did you set up? In windows? Any tweaking?
 
czc said:
Did a quick search.

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/196528-D-Link-DSL-2640U-Bridged-not-working

Reply #5 Seems to be what you're after?
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to0kenZA said:
I see you have a much higher firmware version there.

What other settings did you set up? In windows? Any tweaking?
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Yeah got the update a long time ago and there have not been updates as far as I have googled.
Nothing used it like this for about 4 years now. Only about a yeah ago I did change a setting so I could use Traffic splitter.
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...es-required-for-my-app-similar-to-RouteSentry
@ CZC Download the Registry fix for windows 7 so I could dial 2 PPPoE connections from windows.
 
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