matt
Local caffeine junky
I remember the missions when they were trying to get the login thing going. I would have just closed the comments and made it forum only personally
Are girl gamers sexist towards men? (MyGaming column)
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I remember the missions when they were trying to get the login thing going. I would have just closed the comments and made it forum only personally
ah its easy to explain really, They are keyboard warriors! Also they act like that cos it "sucks being beaten by a girl". Personally i really dont care. My gf has been playing games for years with me and i never even considered hey cos she is a girl she cant beat me. She sometimes beats me and i most times beat her but thats only experience levels that differ nothing to do with the fact that she is female. Really is sickening though that there are people out there that have to make an issue about it.
I for one think its rad to have girl gamers in our community and would gladly support any female that wants to start playing!
I for one think its rad to have girl gamers in our community and would gladly support any female that wants to start playing!
matt
Local caffeine junky
What's really bad, and it stands out from the article, is that marketers think this is the type of thing that girl gamers want
Here's where I found the image, and what I imagine most actual girl gamers think about it
http://blog.wirebot.com/2009/12/18/yuliyas-christmas-wish/
Here's where I found the image, and what I imagine most actual girl gamers think about it
http://blog.wirebot.com/2009/12/18/yuliyas-christmas-wish/
MOnk
New member
Interesting article with some good points but I'd just like to point out something here.
First paragraph you say that you must change your behaviour when their are woman around (don't shout and get all loud and stuff). Second paragraph you say you shouldn't change your behaviour when woman are around.
I'm of the opinion that people should do what they like as long as they respect other people, so if you want to play with girls, guys or it doesn't matter to you, then so be it that's your choice.
But if you're telling me that I'm showing you too much respect or treating you too nice and that's sexist then I'll tell you to gtfo. Yeah so I don't treat guys and girls exactly the same, I don't see that as being sexist I just see that as being human. At the same time if I'm playing with my bros and you want to join that's fine but don't expect me to act completely differently because you are there and then question WHY I'm treating you differently. (if that makes sense)
That being said I've played with numerous ladies over the years in various games and I don't recall gender ever being an issue, no group I've ever been a part of has ever made conclusions about a person based on gender in either direction. Maybe I've just been lucky or maybe my personality inevitably leads me to other people who value respect the way I do.
If I could banish sexism and sexual harassment I would, but I can't, nor can I apologise for every douche-bag our there, what I can do is make sure my conduct and interactions with other people is pleasant and respectful, leaving all parties free to enjoy themselves.
First paragraph you say that you must change your behaviour when their are woman around (don't shout and get all loud and stuff). Second paragraph you say you shouldn't change your behaviour when woman are around.
I'm of the opinion that people should do what they like as long as they respect other people, so if you want to play with girls, guys or it doesn't matter to you, then so be it that's your choice.
But if you're telling me that I'm showing you too much respect or treating you too nice and that's sexist then I'll tell you to gtfo. Yeah so I don't treat guys and girls exactly the same, I don't see that as being sexist I just see that as being human. At the same time if I'm playing with my bros and you want to join that's fine but don't expect me to act completely differently because you are there and then question WHY I'm treating you differently. (if that makes sense)
That being said I've played with numerous ladies over the years in various games and I don't recall gender ever being an issue, no group I've ever been a part of has ever made conclusions about a person based on gender in either direction. Maybe I've just been lucky or maybe my personality inevitably leads me to other people who value respect the way I do.
If I could banish sexism and sexual harassment I would, but I can't, nor can I apologise for every douche-bag our there, what I can do is make sure my conduct and interactions with other people is pleasant and respectful, leaving all parties free to enjoy themselves.
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sycogrim
MyGaming Comp Authoritah
I had a good chuckle at this article, but what was said is true and I'll admit we have all been there even if you were never the type to troll them ledies. I will admit it that I used to do that occasionally, and at times still do (to my ledie gamer friends that is 
). But times have changed and fellow geeks need to realize that girls are just as equal as us these days. 
). But times have changed and fellow geeks need to realize that girls are just as equal as us these days. 
Subversion
MyGaming staff
Hmm, I'm not necessarily sure I agree that the two paragraphs you quoted contradict each other, but I'll try explain what I meant
I wasn't necessarily trying to say don't be respectful to girls online (ideally you should be respectful to everyone), but I can't tell you how many times a girl has been present in an online game and everyone suddenly becomes DEFENDER OF THE MEEK AND INNOCENT. She'll mess up, some guy will call her a noob, and three others will say "come on bro, have some respect for a lady" etc etc. I feel like this is condescending and degrading to women, the assumption is that the girl cannot defend herself and needs a man to step in and protect her honour. It just further contributes to girls feeling marginalised in the gaming community.
I have to say Chris, hats off for attempting this. As one of the few female gamers (who doesnt hide the fact), I have to say one of the main reasons for joining Mygaming was the people on here. I have been on a fair few forums where once it gets out that your female, their attitudes change.
But I also have to admit, I am maybe one of a handful of women, who prefer to play with the guys, but then again I really don't know that many female gamers. I might not be a hard core BF3 player, but I do game for the fun of it. Making friends along the way is always a bonus.
Overall it depends on my attitude - if a girl acts all flirty and silly, they wont get any respect. Respect the group of people you are gaming with and there should be no issues. If there are issues, please dear lord dont run to the first admin you see! Try to sort it out via pm or email or even skype (I have done that once). The thing to remember is we are all part of one big community of gamers, whether we all play the same thing or not.
Besides in 99% of the games there are ways of ignoring the idiots
This is definitely something I didn't go into - that unfortunately there are some women who contribute to the problem. Basically the type you talk about, love the attention, like to make it as obvious as possible that they're a girl, etc. I always imagine these aren't really "gamers", just people with low self-esteem looking for attention.
That being said, and I'm treading dangerous waters here, there's nothing wrong in my opinion with a girl behaving like a girl when playing games. I don't want to stereotype behaviour, but girls and guys ARE different, and that different kind of personality adds diversity to the whole experience, it's one of the reasons it'd be good to get more girls into the community.
Unfortunately the first group and the second group often get treated the same. Credit to you for having a thick skin and being able to brush it off, but I think the real crux of the matter is that you shouldn't have to.
MOnk
New member
I see what you are saying although I can't say I've experienced it first hand but I can see how it would be annoying. To be honest though I sort of treat everyone like that, guy or girl, if I know them and someone is giving them a hard time I'll be the first one to tell the other guy to back off. I suppose I'm just generally not as offended by people who don't know how to play games (aka 'noobs') as some other people are and often I land up trying to help if I can. Happens every now and then in DOTA/LOL, not that I'm any good at those games but if I see someone is new and doesn't know how to play I'd rather just give a few tips rather than just rage and the oke for not being a pro.Hmm, I'm not necessarily sure I agree that the two paragraphs you quoted contradict each other, but I'll try explain what I meant
I wasn't necessarily trying to say don't be respectful to girls online (ideally you should be respectful to everyone), but I can't tell you how many times a girl has been present in an online game and everyone suddenly becomes DEFENDER OF THE MEEK AND INNOCENT. She'll mess up, some guy will call her a noob, and three others will say "come on bro, have some respect for a lady" etc etc. I feel like this is condescending and degrading to women, the assumption is that the girl cannot defend herself and needs a man to step in and protect her honour. It just further contributes to girls feeling marginalised in the gaming community.
Hell I know when I first start playing a game and I'm sucking I would LOVE to have someone tell the local server bully to stfu and let me enjoy my game.
Maybe I have an issue with giving too many shits about people.
Subversion
MyGaming staff
I see what you are saying although I can't say I've experienced it first hand but I can see how it would be annoying. To be honest though I sort of treat everyone like that, guy or girl, if I know them and someone is giving them a hard time I'll be the first one to tell the other guy to back off. I suppose I'm just generally not as offended by people who don't know how to play games (aka 'noobs') as some other people are and often I land up trying to help if I can. Happens every now and then in DOTA/LOL, not that I'm any good at those games but if I see someone is new and doesn't know how to play I'd rather just give a few tips rather than just rage and the oke for not being a pro.
Hell I know when I first start playing a game and I'm sucking I would LOVE to have someone tell the local server bully to stfu and let me enjoy my game.
Maybe I have an issue with giving too many shits about people.
Hehe nah, you're a good guy
And that's great, nothing wrong with being nice to everyone 
Kiruna
New member
I usually play games with guys and more or less have same groups of friends that end up playing in - gender never becomes a issue, the odd joke or quip comes up now and then - but it's all for the fun of it. My stance is that I go in to play games, if we chat it's about the game and mission on hand for the most part, we talk just as if another team member and it's all very casual. I've made some really good gaming buddies over the years mostly because I don't get or expect any special treatment when I play. If I'm good, I'm good - If I suck, I suck.
I would get highly fucked off if it were any other way so I'm generally happy with my gaming experiences over the years. If you don't react or make a big deal out of it - neither will the other person, and this goes for any female gamer as well. I enjoy being one of the guys without pretending to be one if that makes sense.
I would get highly fucked off if it were any other way so I'm generally happy with my gaming experiences over the years. If you don't react or make a big deal out of it - neither will the other person, and this goes for any female gamer as well. I enjoy being one of the guys without pretending to be one if that makes sense.
