ATI 3D Vision with out Nvidia

Hi Frank,

The issue and problem with the above linked article is that it refers to ATI support middleware. Those middleware applications are nowhere near the level of Nvidia 3D Vision software and support. Whilst it may give you a "glimpse" of what 3D Vision is all about, it's NOT the Nvidia solution and is therefor not as good.

Many people have tried to knock Nvidia's 3D Vision offering, and while it does have some drawback, everyone has agreed that Nvidia has the best possible solution for PC gamers.

If ATI really did support a "real" 3D Vision solution they would have marketed it a lot. What the article above states is that their card support a third-party application that does the 3D, but, so does Nvidia's cards....in fact...they even support their OWN solution.
 
Have to agree with Neo here, if ATI had something like this you'd as much ads for it as you see for Eyefinity.

although on that subject, 6 monitor eyefinity setup with 3d could potentialy be very awesome! but it'll need some massive processing...
 
Neo said:
Well...Nvidia thought of 3D Vision first...and now they also have multiple monitor support WITH 3D Vision.

So...ATI is a bit behind at the moment.
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The other thing about Nvidia, they waited alot longer before they release there cards. If they were not alot better there would really be a very big problem. Had they released the cards at the same time or a week apart then i could understand but they waited 6 or so month! In tech terms that is a big difference.
 
Still think 3D is a gimmick never mind the cost. Screen costs at least twice as much, R2k for glasses and then you need your pc to throw out double the frame rate.
 
tanka said:
Still think 3D is a gimmick never mind the cost. Screen costs at least twice as much, R2k for glasses and then you need your pc to throw out double the frame rate.
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I only have one question to ask you, and I think I think I know the answer anyways but: have you EVER experienced 3D gameplay on a PC before?
 
Well as you can guess from my post I do not own 3D but I have actually played 3D before and I personally did not enjoy it. Can't see a game being twice as good to any one due to 3D because it will cost you twice as much.
 
We'll compare apples with apples when the ATI 6xxx series launches.

Please bare in mind that the ati 5xxx series was launched quite some time ago, where as the new nvidia cards only launched recently.

I used to be a Nvdia fanboy but when the 4xxx series came along I took notice and I changed brands. I am loving it. The driver issues of the past are gone..the performance vs price is epic and all in all its been a great number of years with ATI. Nvidia have not yet launched a card that got me thinking about changing back.

So nice try with the 3D nvidia but try harder next time.

3D is only a money making scheme. The extra hardware required is just insane. New Screen, New 3D glasses a damn strong pc to pump out the extra frames..fail!!

Yes its cool to watch a movie in 3D but a movie lasts only 2-3 hours max. Where as a lot of gamers can spend 8-10 hours playing games, i am pretty sure that after playing games in 3D for that amount of time you're eyes will bleed and you'll have a headache of note.

Oh and before the fanboy's start blabbing please bare in mind that I used to only support AMD yet I am running a Core i3 now, why you may ask. Because it is the best bang for buck cpu in my honest opinion and that is all that matters.

I don't buy things because I am a fan boy, I buy things because of the way it performs.
 
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Ag whatever man. You guys are dissing this technology the whole time because it's "expensive". Well you know what, MOST NICE THINGS IN LIFE ARE EXPENSIVE. Lamborghini and Ferrari are expensive cars as well...it doesn't make them BAD cars...it just puts them out of your reach.

So honestly, just because you cannot afford something now is no reason to dis the technology as a whole. Go cry me a river. I'll enjoy my 3D gaming while you're stuck in your little side-scrolling R25 bin-special game.
 
Neo said:
Ag whatever man. You guys are dissing this technology the whole time because it's "expensive". Well you know what, MOST NICE THINGS IN LIFE ARE EXPENSIVE. Lamborghini and Ferrari are expensive cars as well...it doesn't make them BAD cars...it just puts them out of your reach.

So honestly, just because you cannot afford something now is no reason to dis the technology as a whole. Go cry me a river. I'll enjoy my 3D gaming while you're stuck in your little side-scrolling R25 bin-special game.
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LOL mate if you think I can't afford it then that's a pretty lame argument.
We really should meet on mw2 so I can show you what proper gaming is about. Then you can run to your 3D gaming and play Barbie in full 3D..wooooow.

Get with the program, your opinion was valid but it just turned into a pile of crap, you played the money card.
I could have gotten a epic monster of a machine but I recently spent quite a lot of cash on buying a ticket to go to the Netherlands and 2 tickets back to Sa. So yeah I could have gotten a 3d gaming setup but instead I decided to live my life..not be stuck at home playing games..lol


OMG why am I justifying this, I don't have anything to prove..lol
I just think your a Fan boy:) there we go argument closed.
 
much love here! lol. its all good though. I would like to try the tech and see what its like before i spend the money! i have got the money so thats no problem. But there is also a thing called waste. if i am not going to enjoy 3D gaming, why should i buy it for it to sit in my games room gathering dust? Its got nothing to do with money for some of us. So for you to say that is really childish. I earn way more than enough to buy a 3d system. Lame Neo. What are your PC specs by the way neo?
 
I'm really not going to contribute to this topic anymore at all. The more I'm putting facts on the table the more people think it gives them some sort of platform to bash the technology - seriously - if you don't like the tech just don't buy it and ignore the topic. I'm talking to the people who ARE interested.
 
I am not bashing the tech! I am just saying that i would like to try the tech first before i buy it! 3D is very good with blurays. just wanna see it with games. The reason i wanna know your PC specs is that if i decide to go for 3D i wanna see what i would need to get what you have, so if you could please pm me your specs or something.
 
Wow poeple chil stop whacking each other about, look each card has its pros and cons. Yes multi-monitor support for more than 3 monitors is a good thing (ati-eyefinity) to some, i find that on occassion i would like to have more for work space 3 or more then Ati would work but i am not a fan due to a few cards failing to start in my machine. However the brand is good millions of people can't be that wrong and bang for the buck is what Ati is going for.

Now i am an nVidia fanboy, i may have stated that before but in terms of the multi-monitor thing they are behind no matter what they say to even use the 3rd monitor you need a 2nd card in the 400series bit steep even for my pocket. But on the plus side they do support 3D maybe its not so well accepted yet but nothing new is anyway. It takes time for people to come to terms with new things maybe sometime in the future 3D gaming will be more mainstream but we will wait and see. Recently Nvidia havent been fast on the bandwagon being a step behind Ati here and there but given nVidia had a few issues in the last year the GTX 200 series problems and all.

Now neo i admire you standing by your beliefs but you made a mistake by pulling money into this most people can afford it on this forum but they got other things they would rather do. joker you had a valid point aswell but you should have reframed from burning neo. All in all this thread got a little derailed.

(I may have made a mistake intervening but if you must kill me virtually atleast)
 
frank007 said:
I am not bashing the tech! I am just saying that i would like to try the tech first before i buy it! 3D is very good with blurays. just wanna see it with games. The reason i wanna know your PC specs is that if i decide to go for 3D i wanna see what i would need to get what you have, so if you could please pm me your specs or something.
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You dont need to change much on your system to go 3d Just need a 3d Capable monitor there are only a few out there i personally like the Acer one is kinda funky and your GPU coz the what neo said the nVidia cards are designed for 3d gaming.
 
I'm using the IZ3D driver at the moment Neo and they are actually quite mature, having played with 3D Vision as well, they are comparable. The are two big problems I picked up with IZ3D though:

1. I had to download the beta driver for support for DX10 and DX11. I haven't noticed any problems so I suspect it will be merged into a new release soon, making this less of a problem.
2. Finding a decent screen. A lot of 3D screens are ONLY compatible with Nvidia's 3D Vision (like your Asus screen Neo), I'm not sure of the technical reasons why. Eventually I settled on the Zalman 24" (which was very difficult to find) and the screen is quite glossy, if you don't dim the lighting it is quite reflective. 3D Vision users definitely have a better monitor selection.

So definitely, 3D Vision is a more complete solution. Easy to find good quality compatible screens, the glasses, graphics cards and drivers are all maintained by NVidia. ATI isn't left completely out in the cold though.
 
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