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yo Fridge, wp played man, i raged last night cause as i was trying to get into the server, my graphics driver failed and just would not work WTF so i had to be subbed :(

oh well :(

Man that game was so silly to be honest. It was definately not a battle. It was the LAVs winning the game. And we couldnt find a solution because of proximity scans and 2 engineers repairing. All together to OP to get around on such a small map.

Weve seen last night that well have to utilise whatever on the map because everyone else milks it so well just have to do it aswell.

On a side note the vehicles on that map was so bad that on the 1st round which we lost quite badly i think i saw 6 guys of yours maybe..In 20 minutes only 6.

But i must give it to Mur10c...He can camp a LAV better than Bloodhound has ever camped a tank. :D
 
ITs the black screen bug.

IF you get the black screen and it says loading at the bottom. You are screwed and cant do much.

update PB and GPU drivers but im sure it wont have any effect.
 
so i decided to put down the KH2002 and pick up the PKP but then decided to try the M240B, wow, its really on the level of the PKP, 100 rpm faster with 4 less damage at 30 instead of 34.

However after reading the patch notes i believe that the M60E4 or the M240B may end up being better than or equal to the PKP.

Recoil wise i found the M240B to have a very similar recoil to the PKP
 
ITs the black screen bug.

IF you get the black screen and it says loading at the bottom. You are screwed and cant do much.

update PB and GPU drivers but im sure it wont have any effect.

darn, will try the updates and cross my fingers. thanks
 
so i decided to put down the KH2002 and pick up the PKP but then decided to try the M240B, wow, its really on the level of the PKP, 100 rpm faster with 4 less damage at 30 instead of 34.

However after reading the patch notes i believe that the M60E4 or the M240B may end up being better than or equal to the PKP.

Recoil wise i found the M240B to have a very similar recoil to the PKP

I was getting so angry with your bloody pkp dude :p But I blew up that tank of yours :D
 
Man that game was so silly to be honest. It was definately not a battle. It was the LAVs winning the game. And we couldnt find a solution because of proximity scans and 2 engineers repairing. All together to OP to get around on such a small map.

Weve seen last night that well have to utilise whatever on the map because everyone else milks it so well just have to do it aswell.

On a side note the vehicles on that map was so bad that on the 1st round which we lost quite badly i think i saw 6 guys of yours maybe..In 20 minutes only 6.

But i must give it to Mur10c...He can camp a LAV better than Bloodhound has ever camped a tank. :D

to be fair Fridge, that's why this isn't COD, vehicles are OP because they are vehicles, plain and simple

our rule when it comes to vehicles is that the driver NEVER leaves it, even if everyone else is dead and he is on 10% with 5 guys shooting at him, u stay in that thing and die with it cause if the enemy gets it, u are basically screwed.

we actually use our LAV more offensively than most clans, try playing against BFC and patriarch, and then you will see some seriously defensive camping with vehicles.


moral of the story, if your vehicle loses, you team basically loses
 
also, if you didn't lose ur LAV to us, it would have been a much closer game, 2 LAVs vs none will always dominate
 
to be fair Fridge, that's why this isn't COD, vehicles are OP because they are vehicles, plain and simple

our rule when it comes to vehicles is that the driver NEVER leaves it, even if everyone else is dead and he is on 10% with 5 guys shooting at him, u stay in that thing and die with it cause if the enemy gets it, u are basically screwed.

we actually use our LAV more offensively than most clans, try playing against BFC and patriarch, and then you will see some seriously defensive camping with vehicles.


moral of the story, if your vehicle loses, you team basically loses

this is 100% correct, losing a vehicle is a no no, its the end of times if you lose it, even turning something like a humvee against the enemy team can make a huge difference.

Vehicles play a huge role in BF3
 
I was busy typing a whole long message about what is balanced in competitive play but that will just be a pointless venture. All im saying is adjust the spawn times on vehicles. This might BF3 but balance in competitive play doesnt mean you can have a infinate supply of vehicles to sit and camp and have a turkey shoot. There is no individual or team skill involved in that plain and simple.
 
There is actually a lot of skill involved in keeping a vehicle (especially an LAV) alive. When to advance, when to retreat, not getting surrounded, watching for flankers, etc. One RPG in the rear and the entire vehicle battle changes. That is what makes the BF series unique.
 
I was busy typing a whole long message about what is balanced in competitive play but that will just be a pointless venture. All im saying is adjust the spawn times on vehicles. This might BF3 but balance in competitive play doesnt mean you can have a infinate supply of vehicles to sit and camp and have a turkey shoot. There is no individual or team skill involved in that plain and simple.

Fridge. there is alot of skill involved, you don't have to destroy the other vehicle to beat the other team, if ur veihcle squad can at least contain the other vehicle, ur infantry guys can be free to slug it out with the other guys.

maybe don't go head to head with the vehicles, flank it, take out the repair guys first, that makes destroying the vehicle 1000000 times easier.
 
No there isnt. Its harder to retake B on grand bazaar or metro if its stacked with infantry than to sit in a vehicle with 2 engineers behind you. No skill involved in that. Vehicles are a neccesary evil in BF but it must be an OP tool to be treasured not abused for 20mins straight. That is the point. Your team must treasure your vehicles because they might only be available twice if the spawn timers are adjusted. Not your team must abuse the living shit out of the vehicles because if you die they will spawn right again anyway.
 
No there isnt. Its harder to retake B on grand bazaar or metro if its stacked with infantry than to sit in a vehicle with 2 engineers behind you. No skill involved in that. Vehicles are a neccesary evil in BF but it must be an OP tool to be treasured not abused for 20mins straight. That is the point. Your team must treasure your vehicles because they might only be available twice if the spawn timers are adjusted. Not your team must abuse the living shit out of the vehicles because if you die they will spawn right again anyway.

you gonna hate Damavand Peak then........one armoured Jeep, one Tank and a chopper......now that takes co-ordinatation......
 
Nope your not getting what im saying. Im talking from a point of view from someone who has run a couple of competitive league myself. There is a reason why tubes are banned from COD leagues. Because it has a overwhelming effect on the nature of the game and in the right hands it takes the game away from team vs team battle to one oak spamming something.

Like i said before there has to be balance in competitive play. Vehicles are part of BF and an OP part. That is fine but it has to be balanced otherwise competitive ties will always be determined by vehicles only and surely that is not what is needed? It has to be a combination between vehicles and infantry play. That vehicle must be so important to keep alive and not ah i dont care because it will be right back again.
 
Nope your not getting what im saying. Im talking from a point of view from someone who has run a couple of competitive league myself. There is a reason why tubes are banned from COD leagues. Because it has a overwhelming effect on the nature of the game and in the right hands it takes the game away from team vs team battle to one oak spamming something.

Like i said before there has to be balance in competitive play. Vehicles are part of BF and an OP part. That is fine but it has to be balanced otherwise competitive ties will always be determined by vehicles only and surely that is not what is needed? It has to be a combination between vehicles and infantry play. That vehicle must be so important to keep alive and not ah i dont care because it will be right back again.

Dude, battlefield has always been about vehicles. It was a game designed for vehicular warfare. You have to understand that on most of the maps, infantry is there to help cover and maintain the vehicles. The okes in our team as well, geez, I had to really get them out of the COD mindset because they just never wanted to get in a vehicle. Got raped hard in a couple of games by tanks and they finally realized what the game is about.

It is not OP. It's battlefield. That's just how the game is. Not everyone's going to like it/have the balls to play it competitively. Now you know what makes this game so different competitively than any other game. You have to learn to deal with any and every mix of infantry/vehicle situation.

If you know how to take a tank out, for example, it's really not that hard. 2 RPG's 90 degrees on the back takes it down. So, sneak up behind it with a team of engies, and there's your problem solved.

As they said dude, this isn't COD, you can't rely on yourself or your gun. You have to rely on your team and what you have at your disposal, whether it be tanks/choppers/jeeps. You have to just get out of the COD mindset. There are just so much more to BF in terms of scale and tactics.
 
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