=BmW=ZA BF4 Clan Server 3

to0kenZA said:
Discussing clans is hardly an entertaining past time, first of all. We are just giving this guy a heads up to stay away from their server. I speak for a lot of people when I say that it's mostly a bad experience on their server because when you have a good round you get called out by their power tripping admins.

Yes, we do have a server, and yes, we admin it right. We don't kick people for pawning. We also do not kick people for any reason as a matter of fact. I don't think we've even issued one warning to a person in the past.

As for your last statement of them pawning us- just lol dude. Maybe that's why so many people got banned for hacking on their server, because they were pawning us because we were using hax that made us easier to kill and they felt it wasn't enough of a challenge so they kicked us. :rolleyes:

Anyways, enjoy your games on their server because clearly you don't have a problem there. Probably because they PAWN your ass.
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And the tooks has spoken :p
 
Olofberg said:
I take it you guys have nothing better to do than discuss other clans, let me put it simple, once you get to know the BMW guys, they actually cool, ja they have had dickheads as admins in the past, but i surely thing they have rectify this, Q: do you guys even own a server? if yes, are you controlling it correctly? if you have so much admins and servers, you gonna make a mistake, but hey, i havent seen them not appologising, they fix what they mess up. Only reason i think you guys discuss them is cause they PAWN your asses.
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Sorry bra... But I don't plan on bending over and taking it...
But please, don't let me stop you from playing on their server. Hope that you have fun there.

EDIT: I've seen many forum threads pertaining to this new way of STAT padding. Clans (and even friends) stack one side and wait for the public to join. I have seen this in a SA clan as well and I even recorded the conversation I had with one of them.
 
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Vokker said:
Sorry bra... But I don't plan on bending over and taking it...
But please, don't let me stop you from playing on their server. Hope that you have fun there.

EDIT: I've seen many forum threads pertaining to this new way of STAT padding. Clans (and even friends) stack one side and wait for the public to join. I have seen this in a SA clan as well and I even recorded the conversation I had with one of them.
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I don't see this as stat padding.

My clan does this. [CLAN] vs the public and it lets up test new strategies without the trouble of organising a clannie. For all we know, we could get dominated.
 
There are clans that do it to test new strats and there are cockhead clans that do it 24/7 so they can never lose ;)

The whole scene is pretty shit and if not for the few awesome guys like Tooks and his ilk (you know who you are) who try make a small difference, would be one of the worst scenes out there.
 
I'm sorry but how is pitting a team with a strategy against a team of randoms not working together useful practice. It's not gonna be like that in a match
 
Ike_009 said:
I'm sorry but how is pitting a team with a strategy against a team of randoms not working together useful practice. It's not gonna be like that in a match
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Unfortunately it's their server so their rules.

It can be fun playing against a clan though,they tend to guard all the choke points and good flags.All you have to do is poke around for a weak spot and ask a couple of guys to help you push through with smoke.

If things go bad too early and i just see my team just laying back and sniping then i tend to join another server for a bit (love playing on the hardcore TDM servers,snipers think they are invincible which means lots of free tags for me)

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You are actually at an advantage if you are pitted against the whole BmW clan though since most of their players suck.
 
Mephisto_Helix said:
There are clans that do it to test new strats and there are cockhead clans that do it 24/7 so they can never lose ;)

The whole scene is pretty shit and if not for the few awesome guys like Tooks and his ilk (you know who you are) who try make a small difference, would be one of the worst scenes out there.
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I kinda have to agree with this somewhat. This is the biggest problem with online gaming. It's mostly full of children, or on the extreme side, children is big men's bodies. For an example, the BmW clan admins. I do find that the BF community is overall worse than the Dota community, but overall online gaming sucks if you don't have a small group or decent clan to play with.

A lot of clans also don't really give a damn about the non-competitive community so they'll stack, spawn rape etc and make it unenjoyable in general for most people.

On our server on the other hand, we switch teams ourselves or balance the teams when we see it getting a bit unfair.
 
to0kenZA said:
I kinda have to agree with this somewhat. This is the biggest problem with online gaming. It's mostly full of children, or on the extreme side, children is big men's bodies. For an example, the BmW clan admins. I do find that the BF community is overall worse than the Dota community, but overall online gaming sucks if you don't have a small group or decent clan to play with.

A lot of clans also don't really give a damn about the non-competitive community so they'll stack, spawn rape etc and make it unenjoyable in general for most people.

On our server on the other hand, we switch teams ourselves or balance the teams when we see it getting a bit unfair.
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BF is a team game for the most part. Working together you will always do better and have more fun. The idea is to get a bunch of friends together and have fun. It is a game and the main idea behind it is to have fun. If you don't play a game to have fun then its not suppose to be called a game.

Most of the clans around are just a bunch of friends who play together or they started out as a bunch of friends who added clan tags to their names and grew as more friends joined. They want to play with these friends and have fun with them. They even usually consists out of 1 or 2 good players, a bunch of mediocre ones and a few bad ones that will end of all over the scoreboard.

I fail to see why it is their responsibility to break these squads they play with for the sake of some others who choose to not be part of a similar group. They should do what they want so THEY have fun. Gaming is your time, so do what you need to have the fun you want.

Sure we see members of clans switch side, but I see it as something they do in that moment to have more fun.
I enjoy playing with my friends vs other randoms, clans & groups for the most part. I want to play with these friends, that is why they are my friends and I will personally continue to try and play with them most of the time instead of playing against them.

I think the general theme I have here is to do what you need to do (legally :D) to have the max amount of fun in the game you play and leave other people to do the same.
 
SnowWar said:
BF is a team game for the most part. Working together you will always do better and have more fun. The idea is to get a bunch of friends together and have fun. It is a game and the main idea behind it is to have fun. If you don't play a game to have fun then its not suppose to be called a game.

Most of the clans around are just a bunch of friends who play together or they started out as a bunch of friends who added clan tags to their names and grew as more friends joined. They want to play with these friends and have fun with them. They even usually consists out of 1 or 2 good players, a bunch of mediocre ones and a few bad ones that will end of all over the scoreboard.

I fail to see why it is their responsibility to break these squads they play with for the sake of some others who choose to not be part of a similar group. They should do what they want so THEY have fun. Gaming is your time, so do what you need to have the fun you want.

Sure we see members of clans switch side, but I see it as something they do in that moment to have more fun.
I enjoy playing with my friends vs other randoms, clans & groups for the most part. I want to play with these friends, that is why they are my friends and I will personally continue to try and play with them most of the time instead of playing against them.

I think the general theme I have here is to do what you need to do (legally :D) to have the max amount of fun in the game you play and leave other people to do the same.
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Oh no you didn't.Did you just try to argue that other players should not have an effect on you having fun? Almost like those lebs at the bar shouldn't ruin your evening? In this sense, you pack up and leave.

"I fail to see why it is their responsibility to break these squads" .. Well it is not theirs but I would suspect it would be far more challenging and better for practice playing for the losing team against your friends?

Sorry to say any game where you have to play against a stacked team who are on the same TS generally you are going to have a bad time. Hence stay away from BMW server. Don't go to staked servers full stop.

There is a majour difference to playing in a public game and playing public vs competition fellas. Competition guys are all about assualt and reviving that is all. If there is a tank then maybe when they die they will switch to an engineer but its not priority to have fun, its a priority to get ready for DGL, so having your whole team on one side against the public just makes practice dam easy.(Makes me think, is it really practice then? Or is it just for the unlocks?)


Now if we compared BMW to SS server you will notice a huge difference, all their players will be spread(In actual fact they have enough members to fill the server) apart, in their T&C's they actually specify things like No spawn rape, no baiting, no trolling , no stacking. No that just seems like a fun server / Clan to play against / with.
 
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ArchieChoke said:
Oh no you didn't.Did you just try to argue that other players should not have an effect on you having fun? Almost like those lebs at the bar shouldn't ruin your evening? In this sense, you pack up and leave.

"I fail to see why it is their responsibility to break these squads" .. Well it is not theirs but I would suspect it would be far more challenging and better for practice playing for the losing team against your friends?

Sorry to say any game where you have to play against a stacked team who are on the same TS generally you are going to have a bad time. Hence stay away from BMW server. Don't go to staked servers full stop.

There is a majour difference to playing in a public game and playing public vs competition fellas. Competition guys are all about assualt and reviving that is all. If there is a tank then maybe when they die they will switch to an engineer but its not priority to have fun, its a priority to get ready for DGL, so having your whole team on one side against the public just makes practice dam easy.(Makes me think, is it really practice then? Or is it just for the unlocks?)


Now if we compared BMW to SS server you will notice a huge difference, all their players will be spread(In actual fact they have enough members to fill the server) apart, in their T&C's they actually specify things like No spawn rape, no baiting, no trolling , no stacking. No that just seems like a fun server / Clan to play against / with.
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Right so maybe I said it incorrectly. I'm not talking about a fully stacked server and don't get me wrong. I don't like the BmW server(s) at all. I'm banned on the BF3 one for having a suspicious K/D :0

Archie you have 3 or 4 etc close friends you usually play with right. You join on them and squad with them just about all/most of the time.

So you guys just won all the maps you have played so far the night. By most of the people always complaining says that is stacking. Your squad is doing great and the rest of the team are doing quite ok also, specially playing with what you doing.

Do you go and break your squad and 3 of you go to the other team for the next round while still sitting on TS and chatting to your friends?
Do you split up the squad and all to to other squads to make it more fair with the other randoms? I mean its all about being fair and still having fun, so why not just do that?

I'm saying most people have friends and they are perfectly fine to play together as a team on the same side.
 
SnowWar said:
BF is a team game for the most part. Working together you will always do better and have more fun. The idea is to get a bunch of friends together and have fun. It is a game and the main idea behind it is to have fun. If you don't play a game to have fun then its not suppose to be called a game.

Most of the clans around are just a bunch of friends who play together or they started out as a bunch of friends who added clan tags to their names and grew as more friends joined. They want to play with these friends and have fun with them. They even usually consists out of 1 or 2 good players, a bunch of mediocre ones and a few bad ones that will end of all over the scoreboard.

I fail to see why it is their responsibility to break these squads they play with for the sake of some others who choose to not be part of a similar group. They should do what they want so THEY have fun. Gaming is your time, so do what you need to have the fun you want.

Sure we see members of clans switch side, but I see it as something they do in that moment to have more fun.
I enjoy playing with my friends vs other randoms, clans & groups for the most part. I want to play with these friends, that is why they are my friends and I will personally continue to try and play with them most of the time instead of playing against them.

I think the general theme I have here is to do what you need to do (legally :D) to have the max amount of fun in the game you play and leave other people to do the same.
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Ok you heard the guy, the answer is simple which is having fun.

Therefore to simplify the process I have written a short basic summary.

Clans: play together as a team so all 8 of you guys play team A regardless so you have fun together.

Single players: Don't join clan/stacked servers. Playing by yourself vs a clan isn't fun (as said in previous posts), therefore to maximise your fun play against other singles on singles servers. Don't join a clan server EVER!

That way we all have fun, single players play against other randoms to prevent this "odds stacked against men, this isn't fun" gameplay and clans play on their own stacked servers and the entire clan sticks to one team. That way we all have fun.
 
Well guys generally if you play on a clan server it is their server, some is more fun to play on than others. I enjoy playing opposite my clan mates at times trying to test my skills :p. Last night my mission was to down Tooks' chopper on one map. I must have died 5 times but downed the chopper only twice, I still regard it as fun even tho it was though.

It is almost impossible to play on a privately owned server and not have mates playing together. They pay for it for their enjoyment, so rather don't play on these if you have these fears.
 
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I don't know where Ike and Snow came with their arguments all of a sudden, but this thread is about how you should stay VERY far away from the BmW servers, as they band you and hackusate the shit out of anyone that dares to poon them. That's the moral of the story then.

No fun to be had on their server- fluit fluit, my storie is uit. :D
 
I always preferred killing my friends. Trying to get sky's,races,og's dog takes was the best part. I managed :D

I remember I was making faffa so angry the one squad death match.
 
to0kenZA said:
I don't know where Ike and Snow came with their arguments all of a sudden, but this thread is about how you should stay VERY far away from the BmW servers, as they band you and hackusate the shit out of anyone that dares to poon them. That's the moral of the story then.

No fun to be had on their server- fluit fluit, my storie is uit. :D
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That's what I trying to get at, leave guys like this bmw server alone and let them all stack up on one side with nobody to play against.
 
to0kenZA said:
I don't know where Ike and Snow came with their arguments all of a sudden, but this thread is about how you should stay VERY far away from the BmW servers, as they band you and hackusate the shit out of anyone that dares to poon them. That's the moral of the story then.

No fun to be had on their server- fluit fluit, my storie is uit. :D
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I agree with you m8 if you want to have fun and enjoy your game and BF4 experience stay away from BmW servers they are bad news
and those guys like stacking, i paid for my game to have fun not to be ransacked for kills and play against all the high lvl's on one side against all the noobies :p on the other side
 
Tsar said:
I always preferred killing my friends. Trying to get sky's,races,og's dog takes was the best part. I managed :D

I remember I was making faffa so angry the one squad death match.
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Hehehe, we had some good times in BC2 man, eish!

Ike_009 said:
That's what I trying to get at, leave guys like this bmw server alone and let them all stack up on one side with nobody to play against.
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For shizzle dude, they're only going to shoot themselves in the foot. What's the fun in having noone to play with in the first place? :D
 
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