Cyclists ignore safety measures
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TBlaar
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Similar to MalicE's Think Car campaign, I REALLY wanted to start one Called "Bike Think"... as people on bikes think they are above the law, whether it's motorbikes or them silly road bicycles.
If you are a cyclist, you have most probably driven next to another cyclist while on the road, which means you are an asshole.
If you are a biker, and you drive between two lanes on the N1, you are breaking a law. You are allowed to pass a car on this line, this does not mean driving all the way from Monte Vista into Cape Town on this line.
All car drivers DO think while driving, why should we add complexity to this job to allow some biker to disobey the rules. Then if I kill a biker who was driving like a doos, I also have to live with the guilt although it wasn't my fault.
So really, if you are on a bike, YOU should be doing the thinking...
If you are a cyclist, you have most probably driven next to another cyclist while on the road, which means you are an asshole.
If you are a biker, and you drive between two lanes on the N1, you are breaking a law. You are allowed to pass a car on this line, this does not mean driving all the way from Monte Vista into Cape Town on this line.
All car drivers DO think while driving, why should we add complexity to this job to allow some biker to disobey the rules. Then if I kill a biker who was driving like a doos, I also have to live with the guilt although it wasn't my fault.
So really, if you are on a bike, YOU should be doing the thinking...
MalicE
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^YEAH!
And on a slightly unrelated note, if you ride a bike, be it a ZX13R or a 50cc "poegie", and you park your crotch rocket in a normal parking space meant for cars, you deserve to be punched in the nether regions (especially you poegie basturds). There is a special place in hell for you...
z1oc
New member
i think the point has been missed. This has blown over because people hate cyclists and bikers. mean while everyone drives a car.
The whole point is that people hit cyclists because they want to or did not pay attention.
I still say cyclists should watch out as well because the road is not there for them alone as well for the cars. It comes down to a simple statement.
Cyclists stay out of the way of cars and cars stay out of the way for cyclists. Easy
The whole point is that people hit cyclists because they want to or did not pay attention.
I still say cyclists should watch out as well because the road is not there for them alone as well for the cars. It comes down to a simple statement.
Cyclists stay out of the way of cars and cars stay out of the way for cyclists. Easy
Fivel
New member
Work on your language mate, no need to swear to make your point! You seem to imply that cyclists are the main cause, I don't agree. There should be an attitude adjustment on both sides - no law can regulate that.
TheAvenged87
Not Robin
This is a touchy subject, heh?
I have to say this, though: Not all cyclists are that bad. Granted, some do make me want to put my foot down on the accelerator, but those a not a massive portion of the group in general.
I think that laws involving safe road usage for pedestrians, cyclists, automobile drivers and motorcycle drivers need to be re-looked at and the flaws need to be exposed and fixed up properly. Once this is done, everyone involved should understand exactly what is expected of them. Dare I even say that a penalty system would also help enforce laws, for both motorists and cyclists alike.
I have to say this, though: Not all cyclists are that bad. Granted, some do make me want to put my foot down on the accelerator, but those a not a massive portion of the group in general.
I think that laws involving safe road usage for pedestrians, cyclists, automobile drivers and motorcycle drivers need to be re-looked at and the flaws need to be exposed and fixed up properly. Once this is done, everyone involved should understand exactly what is expected of them. Dare I even say that a penalty system would also help enforce laws, for both motorists and cyclists alike.
MalicE
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I fixed it for you
IMO a cyclist falls under the same category as a pedestrian. they should be riding on the sidewalk, not the road
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TBlaar
New member
IMO a cyclists fall under the same category as a pedestrian. they should be riding on the sidewalk, not the road
^^^ This man is wise! If this won't do, then go ride on some course built for the purpose of what you are trying to achieve.
z1oc
New member
read what he said there. NOT ALL CYCLISTS are bad.
and the part of cycle on a side walk. I would like to invite you to take a road bike and cycle on that, then after your 80KM cycle have a nice time fixing your bike on what ever side walks dont exist. There are two types of cyclists road and MTB. road cyclists need a road (flat surface) MTB needs (what ever you feel like riding on). you taking into account that all are Noobs and should be hit by a car. Think of it like this everyone hates Taxi drivers, but in the end not all of them are shit. Its the samething with cyclists, thats why i say that there needs to be a understanding from both sides for anything to work.
But then i come to think of it this is South Africa people do what ever they like and can get away with it. Only when something bad comes to happen then people implement change. Why sit and complain when nothing will be done about it. I dont think that in 2 days from now motorists will respect cyclists more or less than they do now.
MalicE
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I was actually referring to the (bi)cyclists only, not the bikers. that was my bad, I should have stated that more clearly. obviously you can't put a bike on the sidewalk. motorbikes aren't as in the way as bicycles are.
TBlaar
New member
The other thing they should then do, is to impose a time ban on cyclists using their road bikes on public roads... Just like they do for trucks.... as they hold up traffic. I have sat behind 3 cyclists on the back road behind Durbanville (under the trees) for minutes because they have to ride 3 abreast.
Then the ban should be on certain roads at peak traffic times, meaning between 6 and 9 in the mornings, and between 4 and 7 in the evenings, you stay off those roads with your bicycle.
When I did mountain biking, I stayed on the pavement where I could, on the way to a place where I did the actual cycling. The thing with road bicyclers though, is that their "place " is in the traffic.
Just like pedestrians get hit now and then and nobody cares, it should be the same for cyclists! If one of you get hit, then don't take it personally!
Then the ban should be on certain roads at peak traffic times, meaning between 6 and 9 in the mornings, and between 4 and 7 in the evenings, you stay off those roads with your bicycle.
When I did mountain biking, I stayed on the pavement where I could, on the way to a place where I did the actual cycling. The thing with road bicyclers though, is that their "place " is in the traffic.
Just like pedestrians get hit now and then and nobody cares, it should be the same for cyclists! If one of you get hit, then don't take it personally!
matt
Local caffeine junky
It shouldn't really be such an issue, if drivers go wide around bicycles, and cyclists do their best not to obstruct traffic. IMO, cyclists should be riding in single file on the edge of the road, in the emergency lane if there is one, close to the pavement if there isn't, then drivers can go wide around them, and everyone's fine.
The problem is when cyclists take up the whole road, or when drivers drive past too close to the cyclists.
The problem is when cyclists take up the whole road, or when drivers drive past too close to the cyclists.
Ike_009
Assassin of Accountants
Is it just me or does ot look like cars have think about their safety and also bikes, bicycles and pedestrians however cyclists and bike riders show no regard for the rules and that's ok.
I just don't see why there is much defence for a group that are generally disrespectful to other road users and often in breach of the law.
Isn't the best answer to give and take equally? I.E. Bikes and cyclists don't ride down the centre of traffic, stop at stop streets and don't hold up other vehicles and in return cars will observe the 1.5 meter passing rule and give way as with normal traffic. I know I wouldn't get so frustrated if saw some respect back on the road.
I just don't see why there is much defence for a group that are generally disrespectful to other road users and often in breach of the law.
Isn't the best answer to give and take equally? I.E. Bikes and cyclists don't ride down the centre of traffic, stop at stop streets and don't hold up other vehicles and in return cars will observe the 1.5 meter passing rule and give way as with normal traffic. I know I wouldn't get so frustrated if saw some respect back on the road.
Graal
New member
I agree with this. I never said that motorists should drive like maniacs with no regard for cyclists, but I think it's really unfair because there's this attitude that motorists have to go the extra mile simply because they're the ones who are safer in case of an accident.
NO. Cyclists also have to observe safety procedures and be mindful of car drivers.
Or else I will mow them down.
Ike_009
Assassin of Accountants
NO. Cyclists also have to observe safety procedures and be mindful of car drivers.
Or else I will mow them down accidentally .
I fixed it for you
Fivel
New member
You are a shining example of why it's best to not cycle on South African roads. When last did a cyclist kill a motorist? You are in a car, you need to show greater restraint!
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Ike_009
Assassin of Accountants
Shouldn't you as the cyclist show some restraint to other road users before expecting the same consideration.
What you are seeing is not a reason why SA roads are unsafe for cyclists but the results of cyclists disrespect for fellow road users and the related discontent they now feel towards the general cycling community.