DayZ Discussion Thread.

Maplassie said:
THIS.

THIS is exactly why I wish we could modify servers in such way that certain Items could not be storable.
ANY sniper rifle
L85
Night Vission goggles
Ghillie suits
Camo clothing.

- Done know about this

Also they should completely clamp down the storage limits of tents and vehicles in general. You should be able to store a maximum of let's say 2 rifles, a handgun and some supplies in there.

- I believe this can be done. I've seen the code in the files. I'm not sure if one can completely remove the tents, but one can certainly wipe them say every few days. IE tents gets wiped every 2nd day or something in that line.
Even more interesting is if you set weapon storage in tents to 0...

This will bring the game back to it's roots so to speak. I remember when we first started playing the game. When it was pitch black darkness, you would run for ages until you found a landmark, then make your way to places at a snails pace while leopardcrawling all over the show and using up about 50 tonnes of Roadflares, just to get a Winchester and a waterbottle and think JACKPOT. Whenever you saw players your heart would start pumping, and you would hide away etc.

This, this is what DayZ should be. Now you die and you don't give a fuck, just ran back to the tents and gear up again!

- I totally agree with you and one can achieve that to a big degree with a private hive server. Its something we have been looking into. I'm wondering how many legit players here in SA would be interested in a normal DayZ server like this that tries to bring back the oldschool playstyle and feel...
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Actually, removing tents should be pretty easy and straightforward on a private hive. We can remove them from the spawn table and then remove any other tents that have been placed or are in players' inventories. I might have to raise it with Mattz and hear what he has to say about it.
 
Graal said:
Actually, removing tents should be pretty easy and straightforward on a private hive. We can remove them from the spawn table and then remove any other tents that have been placed or are in players' inventories. I might have to raise it with Mattz and hear what he has to say about it.
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Ofcourse yes, you are right. It would be nice to store some things in tents thou. I guess one can just limit the weapon storage in vehicles also.

I know of an ISP that is looking into these things for normal DayZ. I'm hoping it happens and old DayZ players would be interested to give the game, good old normal DayZ a go again.
It would be good to have a solid normal DayZ private hive running with these things to bring back a more oldschool DayZ experience.

Nag has their Lingor one, lets see what comes out of the other talks.
 
limp2minutenoodles
- I totally agree with you and one can achieve that to a big degree with a private hive server. Its something we have been looking into. I'm wondering how many legit players here in SA would be interested in a normal DayZ server like this that tries to bring back the oldschool playstyle and feel...
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We are about 6 on Ts every night that would make the switchover instantaniously
 
I'm actually strongly considering bringing our Chernarus server over to a private hive as well, simply because it's so much more convenient than the official DayZ servers in terms of customization and control over hacking/duping.
 
Graal said:
I'm actually strongly considering bringing our Chernarus server over to a private hive as well, simply because it's so much more convenient than the official DayZ servers in terms of customization and control over hacking/duping.
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I think Nag should stick to doing the Lingor thing. Chernarus is being looked at and we don't really want to go and divide ppl again do we?
 
Well, from the sounds of it, people are already divided, so having a second private Chernarus server really isn't going to make much difference. If people don't want to play on a certain server, then they won't.

It's no use for NAG to continue running an official Chernarus server if nobody wants to play on it due to the rampant hacking and duping going on. Seeing as we've already got a private hive it's no big issue adding a second server to the hive. At this point we're pretty much at a crossroads, because the official server sees very little activity and Lingor Island doesn't have the same staying power that Chernarus has.

It's not really worth it to continue running the official server, and it's not worth running Lingor Island alone.
 
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"Well, from the sounds of it, people are already divided"

I'm not following you. How about we/you think about the community and lets get one nicely run normal DayZ private hive server that gets a decent population there before even thinking of adding another one (and no its not me putting up a server, I just know about it) You are just trying to add to the problem that we already have on the normal hive servers...

I'd rather have people deciding about playing on normal DayZ or Lingor according to how they feel instead of have 10 people on a Chernarus Private Server, 8 on another Chernarus Private Server and 9 other on the Lingor Private Server etc.
I do not think Nag's only problem is the hacking and duping, but if you really do not want to think about this as an SA DayZ Community issue then I guess no one can stop you from running a private hive server for Nag regulars...

It should not be about " it's no big issue adding" It's about what is best for the local community at this point and moving forward. That might well change and another private hive server, maybe even connected might become viable at a later stage
 
I am thinking of the community, and I don't see it as being an issue at all. If people want to play on a single server, they are going to play there. If they want to play on a high population server, they will join one server. People play where they want to.

Besides, what makes multiple private servers so much different to multiple official servers?

I honestly don't see why this needs to be a competition? If people don't want to play on a NAG private Chernarus server, then they won't. But they will have the choice.
 
Graal said:
I am thinking of the community, and I don't see it as being an issue at all. If people want to play on a single server, they are going to play there. If they want to play on a high population server, they will join one server. People play where they want to.

Besides, what makes multiple private servers so much different to multiple official servers?

I honestly don't see why this needs to be a competition? If people don't want to play on a NAG private Chernarus server, then they won't. But they will have the choice.
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I give up. I don't think you get it... one day maybe one day...
 
Out of curiosity, say I started setting up a Chernarus private server when I originally thought of the idea two weeks back, would this other server provider have stood back or gone forth with setting theirs up as well?
 
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Anyway, nothing is set in stone and I don't feel like arguing here over something that has only ever come under consideration and isn't even decided yet. I never said we were going to switch to private, only that it's something I've been considering for some time.

Right now, I'm pretty busy with university and Matthew is probably getting ready for rAge (lucky bastard), so we can't do anything for the moment anyway. In two weeks time we should have time to look at it again to see how the implementation would work, so it's useless squabbling about it for now. Maybe we decide to do it, maybe we don't. Heck, maybe the Fallujah map is in a better state by then and we decide to rather use that. By then I assume the other ISP's server should be up, so we can see how things go from there then.
 
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Well, seeing as the NAG community and some people outside it are supporting us setting it up, I think we are going to set one up in the end.

Once again, people play where they want to play. Nobody is forcing anyone to play on a server they don't want to.
 
Graal said:
Well, seeing as the NAG community and some people outside it are supporting us setting it up, I think we are going to set one up in the end.

Once again, people play where they want to play. Nobody is forcing anyone to play on a server they don't want to.
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GL then. I still think this is wrong and the ISP's and ppl hosting servers should go and have a chat somewhere.

Its not about forcing anyone to play on a server but rather to form a bigger, better community on 1 server. It really does not matter on what server, as long as its run properly (an issue for Nag atm).
If you think you can sort the issues and do it right then go speak to ISP's like Wage, IS & Mweb and try and do something that would actually benefit local players.
 
LimpNoodle, could you please stop saying we're not running the server properly, because to be frank, you're talking nonsense. When I asked you privately, via PM, what your concerns regarding the administration of the server was, you told me possible admin abuse, which I've addressed by removing certain admin tools that could be used for abuse, and your only other reason amounted to "I don't really know, it's just this feeling I've got."

I'm trying my utmost best here to deal with the community's concerns regarding our server, but I can't do that if you're continuously telling me there's something wrong with our management but you somehow don't even know what your concerns are yourself.

I think you're blowing this whole thing way out of proportion and turning it into a giant 'who can get the most players' contest. I ask you, once again, I NAG had set up a private Chernarus server two weeks ago, would this 'other ISP' have backed out and not set theirs up? I'm going to assume the likely answer is no. And that's fine, because it's a non-issue.

If people want to play on a server with a high population, they're going to join a server with a high population. People are not sheep who need to be herded.

Your entire argument rests on the idea that you're scared having more than one server is going to lead to players playing where they want and not where you want them to play.
 
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Graal said:
LimpNoodle, could you please stop saying we're not running the server properly, because to be frank, you're talking nonsense. When I asked you privately, via PM, what your concerns regarding the administration of the server was, you told me possible admin abuse, which I've addressed by removing certain admin tools that could be used for abuse, and your only other reason amounted to "I don't really know, it's just this feeling I've got."

I'm trying my utmost best here to deal with the community's concerns regarding our server, but I can't do that if you're continuously telling me there's something wrong with our management but you somehow don't even know what your concerns are yourself.

I think you're blowing this whole thing way out of proportion and turning it into a giant 'who can get the most players' contest. I ask you, once again, I NAG had set up a private Chernarus server two weeks ago, would this 'other ISP' have backed out and not set theirs up? I'm going to assume the likely answer is no. And that's fine, because it's a non-issue.

If people want to play on a server with a high population, they're going to join a server with a high population. People are not sheep who need to be herded.
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Good on you for removing that tools. Yes I do think Nag has issues. You even asked why some time ago why the negative attitude towards Nag, don't shoot me for actually answering while others just choose to keep quiet.
To be honest I can't even remember that I straight up told you there was admin abuse. You sure it was not maybe someone else? It’s not something anyone except the admins can know is it?
I do believe I said there was some really dodgy shit going on, but that was long ago. I have really not been playing there much, but I have now and then played as a friendly on Lingor and helped out the regular guys there.

I'm saying Nag's rep have changed since it was my home server as I've heard the same things from different ppl. Now I'm sorry that I am the person with a voice and not afraid to speak up. It does sort of put a spotlight on me for the person actually coming out and saying these things, so I'm a bit careful of getting banned for speaking my mind, which does seem to happen.

I do believe you are trying hard to bring things back to the old NAG and I give you points for that and I wish you all the best. I guess a lot of it is not because of you guys, but rather some of the individual nag regulars?

But that is not the point here for me. I'm afraid that a bunch of private hives will just split the DayZ player base as its split with the normal hive ones. And with private hives its very, very different to move from one server to another.
We hardly ever see more than 15 people on a server as there is so many. This gives a totally different experience to DayZ here in SA vs the rest of the world.

Am I so wrong to want 1 decently run, full server instead of splitting ppl up? This will definitely happen.
 
Once again, we've addressed all concerns regarding admin abuse. Other than that, I am still waiting for you to give me another concrete reason for why there are 'issues' with the way the server is run.

We do not ban people for speaking their mind. I am well aware that you are referring to Akurei here, seeing as even in that you opposed our decision to ban him. Akurei was a troublemaker right off the bat. He stirred trouble in the forums, then he stirred trouble on the server. He also lied to me about incidents on the server, twice. Then to top it all off, he went to another forum, called the NAG admins fags and insulted the entire NAG playerbase. I am sorry if you don't see why we thought it necessary to ban him, but we do not want troublemakers like him on our server. We actually agreed to lift his ban a week ago, provided he provides an apology to the NAG playerbase. This has yet to be done.

Also, with regards to the whole 'just one server' thing, I thought I'd just leave this post of yours here. Found it on the WAGE forums.

Limpnoodle said:
Matt, Awesome guide. Thx

I don't see why Xero should not host one if he wants to or can. I know myself and others will support it as I'd prefer to play on a Wage (freezone) server and I also like to have choices on things.
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Have a nice day further. :)
 
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