Defiance beta keys (MMORPG.com)
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This guy gives a great summary about this game, i'm quoting just some snippets from his article:
http://my.mmosite.com/2939742/blog/item/defiance_the_greatest_game_i_probably_wont_buy.html
I am actually inclined to pre-purchase , simply because there's nothing else of any MMO/Online interest coming out April/May (well not that i'm aware of). I had the exact same experience where i logged off and realised i played like 8 hours, so while i might feel the game is "mediocre" it did kept me going for more...
I think you MUST however play this game when everyone is leveling together , otherwise you'll be doing alot of the content on your own , and even though they scale the Arkfalls , i still struggled. It certainly helps doing these missions where you must activate like 5 beacons and there's 3 other players doing it, you don't need to activate all 5 yourself to get the complete, just someone in the area have to do it while you are also in the area. Don't even have to group up, so it's quite a cool way to coop.
http://my.mmosite.com/2939742/blog/item/defiance_the_greatest_game_i_probably_wont_buy.html
I am actually inclined to pre-purchase , simply because there's nothing else of any MMO/Online interest coming out April/May (well not that i'm aware of). I had the exact same experience where i logged off and realised i played like 8 hours, so while i might feel the game is "mediocre" it did kept me going for more...
I think you MUST however play this game when everyone is leveling together , otherwise you'll be doing alot of the content on your own , and even though they scale the Arkfalls , i still struggled. It certainly helps doing these missions where you must activate like 5 beacons and there's 3 other players doing it, you don't need to activate all 5 yourself to get the complete, just someone in the area have to do it while you are also in the area. Don't even have to group up, so it's quite a cool way to coop.
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Uhm no, this is not a PvP Game. There is PvP, but it's a side show, similar to GW2's WvWvW or Rift's PvP . There's certainly zero PvP in the "open world" , it's all PvE . The 50 vs 50 PvP is totally instanced , exactly like what Trion did with Rift's PvP. They take the actual zone and instance it into a PvP Zone (and you queue up for it etc). Kinda like The Secret World's PvP too.
I must say, after awhile, i could feel the resemblance to Rift in the game. Take out the classes and skill system (and the complexity of it) and replace with 3rd person shooter and a post apocalypse world and you get Defiance. The story of Defiance is definitely told better than Rift's story though, it has that movie like effect, like what you find in a single player game which is kinda nice.
It's kinda like an action version of Fallen Earth. Where Fallen Earth was all crafting and kinda on the slow end, Defiance is all quick action, right down to the "Fast Travel" spots (something i remember was a huge argument on the Fallen Earth forums back in the day). The combat in Defiance is a ton better than combat was in Fallen Earth though.
I must also add, while there's no classes and the EGO system is pretty one dimensional, you do improve in all your weapons and vehicles based on usage. So if you use a sniper rifle, the more you use it , the better you get at it.
I seriously doubt i will PvP in this game (Planetside 2 is much much better for this), the forums already clearly indicates it's pretty unbalanced and not very interesting. The weapon of the day was grenade launchers which is simply spammed all over the place .
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Wyvern
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I have to agree with diabolus, I rather enjoyed my limited time that I played = about 2 hours in total. But it was fun, I was having some lag issues tho and struggled with some of the more basic kills. Some weapons where definitely over powered and the graphics was not running smoothly for me, minor things like the character running felt and looked a bit weird to me.
I suspect I might get the game tho.
I suspect I might get the game tho.
Shrike
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Ahhh! I was confusing this with planetside 2 then. Is it F2P? Do you reckon its going to be playable by its release date?
I ended up pre-purchasing on Steam (note: you get more rewards on Steam than from Trion directly) , it will be my April game i suppose, since there's nothing else on my agenda for the next 2 months in terms of online multiplaying. I don't expect this game to be a long term thing, if i get a good 100 hours out of it, it will be money well spent.
Alot of people say the closest thing to explain Defiance is to compare it to a Borderlands MMO (maybe not as good as Borderlands, but the gameplay is similar , add other players and dynamic events).
There's also that other 3rd person shooter, Firefall, which even looks like Borderlands too, and from the videos looks better than Defiance, but that game has been in Beta for like years now, and still no release date.
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Shrike
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Is it pre-downloading from Steam? How big is the download for it?
It's Buy-Box-2-Play, same model as GW2 (no sub). Costs $60 for standard edition and then you're sorted. I would however have liked to pay less, maybe $40 would have been a more logical price point. I imagine the price will drop after 2-3 months anyway. There is a cash shop too and they have DLCs (no quite sure what this would be, but you can already buy into this) , which seems like additional content they will release in parallel with the TV Series. I'm guessing it's story arcs , maybe some "dungeons" or "zones" .
The beta client was about 7gb, not sure what the final size would be and i sure hope it is pre-loading on Steam... i mean what else am i going to do the entire easter weekend
As for "playable at release" . The starter zone was pretty much without anything particular glaring as far as i could tell. They can definitely tweak the weapons a little, but the quests all seems to work almost too well (considering how dynamic they are and how you can complete all of them without grouping and get credit while others complete parts of the objective). Let's just say, no quest bugged out on me or required me to "abandon and retake" . Some of the mobs pathing and AI is terrible, but that tended to work to my advantage and i exploited that fully (predictable AI, same as any other MMO).
The start zone was pretty large , and after my 10 hour stint this weekend i was not even half way. The actual world map was much larger, kinda like a continent, similar to those continents in Rift. I didn't encounter any game stopping bugs, they seemed to have disabled the modding system (you can upgrade your weapons with all kinds of mods) , so not sure if that was not finished yet or not.
They also have the equivalent of "dungeons" on the map, including a few solo instances that form part of the story line (i.e. going underground into bunkers and such).
So it's hard to tell how much content there really are. It might very well end up being the starter zone and then all a buggy untested mess afterwards, but i got a feeling their "base" model will be re-applied across the entire continent, similar to the starter zone, which should be easy enough. I just hope the landscape change a little....at least there are day-night cycles.
I'm sure they could probably have polished alot more, especially with the UI (which reminds me of DCUO's UI, yes, that bad). However this game is releasing on all 3 platforms, so i guess they have to cut corners somewhere.
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Shrike
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Sounds interesting indeed. Is there group content? Are there healing/tank roles etc in groups? This game has totally flown under MMO radar so I am in the dark here and can't find an easy to pickup info site on it. Is the beta going to be used for release or do you have to download a new client. How big is the client? ;-P
Questions questions!
Questions questions!
Well here's the official forums, i saw people asking these questions on there, not sure myself: http://forums.defiance.com/
As for it flying under the radar, yes, i also ignored it totally until i got a beta key. I wasn't even planning on watching the TV Series, but i guess this will be a nice immersion factor in conjunction in the game. At least the actors in the real tv series are very recognizable in the game. I think watching the tv series trailers on youtube will probably give you a good idea on the "story" and "theme". It's not exactly post apocalypse in the Fallout sense, there are alien races (one of which you can play as) too , so it's definitely "sci fi" . I actually don't quite know what is going on in detail either, but that's what made me follow the story line, as they trickle feed you all these things.
As for the equivalent of 5-man dungeons and such. I got not clue, from what i read, group size = 4 and there are 4-man dungeons (this is something i think might still be very buggy, alot of people complained about this) . I haven't played any myself, apparently it was part of a queuing/matchmaking system to get into. There's definitely abilities to heal and i believe there's even a "healing gun" (probably a shield re-generator , haven't seen it, don't take my word for it) . However there's no classes in the game, so you can probably fulfill any role you want by "leveling" the right weapons and picking the right perks.
I definitely saw an EGO ability which makes it faster and safer for you to revive your allies (which seems like a support type of ability to me). However i don't think you will get your typical healer-tank-dps setup with this.
EDIT: Here's the EGO Calculator (the main skill system) to give an idea. http://defiance-central.com/ego-calculator/?link=18a-24a-25a-26a-27a-&start=18 . On there you will start with one of the 4 main "active abilities" (the 4 main blocks) and then you work yourself outwards with the smaller blocks, if you reach the other large blocks you can unlock that too, so you are not stuck with 1 of the 4 main abilities. However you can only "equip" 1 of the 4 main abilities at a given time, and a ton of of the small blocks abilities (the amount you can equip is based on how many EGO points/levels you have gained).
I initially started with the stealth ability, but i found i didn't use it alot, so i worked myself to the decoy ability which seems to be alot more useful. However in hindsight i think there's alot of quests i could have completed without killing any mobs by using the stealth ability .
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Well, you get 2 cdkeys on steam anyway, which i've applied on my Trion account (where my Rift stuff is) and it works nicely in there. So i'm not even sure whether you have to download via steam or even play via steam. I'll most likely try download directly from Trion, since my trion account now reflects i have bought the game. Steam is notorious for being pretty bad with MMO game clients which are updated outside of steam.
Anyway, on a side note, for those that is purchasing or at least have a Trion account, there's these Arkfall Codes that were supposedly hidden in all the PR material , these codes can be entered here : http://www.defiance.com/en/my-ego/ and it gives all kinds of in-game rewards/items . Now luckily for us, there's a site with almost all the codes:
http://orcz.com/Defiance:_Arkfall_Codes
Oh and the TV Series Trailer, just to give a background for the game:
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Oh i found the video showing off the healing/rez weapon, this actually shows alot more interesting weapons which i didn't even see in the Beta, probably because the mod system didn't work.
I did at least got something like that weapon right at the end which is like a metal fist with a shield , you punch the crap out of everything , until the shield dies.....
I did at least got something like that weapon right at the end which is like a metal fist with a shield , you punch the crap out of everything , until the shield dies.....
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Hehe, yea, especially if you didn't play beta. I suspect there will be a few launch hassles too and probably a week or two before they patch all the bugs. I'm not quite convinced this launch is going to be very smooth and probably the reason they launch 2 weeks before the show starts.
Maybe watch the tv show and go from there ;-) . I must stay i am getting more and more intrigued with this game + tv series combination thing.
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On a side note, it seems Steam have this fancy Tier'ed pre-order bonus system going, where the more people pre-order the more bonus you get. Anyway, this game has passed Tier 1 and suddenly it's almost hitting Tier 2 now. Tier 2 gives you a free copy of Rift:Storm Legion (costs $39) . So if you were looking for Rift and possibly this game, buying Defiance on Steam is a good option at the moment.
It has gotten so bad now, that people who pre-ordered elsewhere (i.e. directly from Trion) are trying to cancel their pre-orders and order from Steam, the Tier'ed bonusses are just that much better.
Also, apparently the client can be pre-loaded directly from Trion already (there's a link to download on the site). However i would wait a day or two before patching , for in case.
It has gotten so bad now, that people who pre-ordered elsewhere (i.e. directly from Trion) are trying to cancel their pre-orders and order from Steam, the Tier'ed bonusses are just that much better.
Also, apparently the client can be pre-loaded directly from Trion already (there's a link to download on the site). However i would wait a day or two before patching , for in case.