First Risen english review

I'd also gladly do the PC version. Would probably finish it in a week :D. I remember how hooked I got onto Gothic 2 when I first played it. It was a diamond in the rough, but the the 'rough' was easily forgiven. :)
 
Played so far. Game is very good imho. Feels very much like gothic 2.

The eurogamer review is a joke. Its quite clearly this guy has never played any of the gothic games before. The combat system is the same if you are just bashing the left mouse button you will die and you will die fast. You need to block and wait for your moment. Also wtf must there be fast travel, have gamers really become so lazy that they need to have fast travel?? Maps work as intended. Also gfx looks fine to me. I really believe this review has some serious bias here.

Game is a 7 imho, maybe higher depending on how the story and character interaction plays out.

Will post further comments later on.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/risen-review
 
Thanks for the feedback. Might be a little early to be handing out scores methinks. It's an 80+ hour game after all. Keep us informed as you make more progress. I'm most interested to know if they kept the silly random loot generator from gothic 3 or if they went back to the way it was in gothic 2, i.e. finding cool items like swords lying on a stone table in a skeleton infested cave.
 
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Average at metacritic so far is 85 for the pc version and 60 for the xbox version. Seems the pc critics like it but the console critics don't.
 
I like it :3 A lot :D

So far I'd easily give it a 9. Depending on how the game progresses, the storyline and any problems I might incur I'll score it higher or lower. For now, I'm madly in love :D
 
Please give us a review on Sacred 2 expansion! I played Sacred 2 for awhile but I found it really buggy...and I couldnt keep up with the massive patches. Enjoy Batman...can't wait till I get my copy.
 
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Cobalt said:
Please give us a review on Sacred 2 expansion! I played Sacred 2 for awhile but I found it really buggy...and I couldnt keep up with the massive patches. Enjoy Batman...can't wait till I get my copy.
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Sacred 2's expansion will only be out next friday. It got delayed for some reason.
 
More reviews. Game is loved by most of the pc reviewers and loathed by the console reviewers. I find it simple shocking how the english version of euro gamer can score the game 4/10 and the german version of the site gave 8/10 for pc and 7/10 for the console version. Also real gamers comments show total lack of knowledge, those things where in the previous gothic which were around before fable and around the same time as morrowind so how did piranha bytes steal bethesda and fable's ideas??


Risen - Review Flood #3
by Gorath, 21:36

Today's articles show a couple of trends. English reviews are very critical of the XBox 360 conversion, but they often neither put it into the context of the PC version nor do they mention for how many hours the game was played. German scores for the PC version are still overwhelmingly positive. The conversion is generally assessed as an equally good game, significantly held back by ugly graphics and an overall bad technical performance. Tests in other languages are somewhere in between.
It's easy to form a view on Risen for PC due the demo released yesterday. The XBox 360 situation on the other hand is less clear. Are the German testers too uncritical? Or are the early English reviews rush jobs by unmotivated, badly paid reviewers? Hard to say without first hand experience.

Videogameszone.de posted a gallery with screenshots highlighting the visual differences between both version.
PC Games.de offers tuning tips in German.

* Golem.de thinks Risen is a risk-free buy for Gothic fans.
* GameStar put their print article online.
* Spanish site MeriStation gives 8/10.
* DemoNews added a score: 86%
* GameZ.nl and Babelfish find strength and weaknesses, but still say: "be you a devotee of traditional RPG with fantasy-setting or Gothic-games in particular, then this a must is absolutely. " - 81%
* GamersGlobal.de rates Risen with an enthusiastic 8.5/10. "Risen does so much right that minor inconsitencies carry no wight."
* SpazioGames.it gives Risen an 8.0, I think for the PC version. It could also be a combined score though.
* Spanish site 3DJuegos reviewed both versions. 6.7/10 for PC, 6.5/10 on XBox 360.
* The highly critical 4Players.de doesn't like Risen (PC) and hates the conversion. 74% resp. 64%. Too bad a Deep Silver representative said they only received their review sample two days ago.
* Resolution Magazine writes about both version, but gives only one score. The author's 6/10 is worth a read. "Risen’s a brave, self-assured game that I’m sure a lot of people are going to really dig. [...]I’m not so taken, but my increasingly frazzled mind through endless streams of instant-gratification blockbusters might have something to do with that. Or maybe I’m just losing patience with minor flaws. Or maybe I’m just weird."
* Eurogamer.net reviews the XBox 360 version, also lists the PC platform and dishes out a 4/10. People in the comments thread are not amused. As you might remember Eurogamer.de gave 8/10 and 7/10.
* StrategyInformer strives for a balanced conclusion: "Lacking in polish and attention to detail, Risen still stands up as an absorbing and hugely playable RPG title. The PC version is inarguably superior to its console counterpart, this Xbox 360 iteration feeling somewhat unfinished and unrefined. Yet, for a sophomore console effort, Piranha Bytes has done a solid enough job in adapting an intricate role-player for Xbox 360, which bodes well should the dev decide to bring future releases to the platform." - 6.3/10
* GamingXP.de added an article on the XBox 360 game. They mention the usual technical issues. - 80%
* videogamer thinks "The issue is enjoyment. If Piranha Bytes hadn't designed Risen while giving accessibility the finger, then it would have had a chance of being a slow burning but absorbing RPG. As it is though, it's impossible to recommend. You're better off playing through Bethesda's Oblivion, even if it's for the 50th time." - "5 - Frustrating" (XBox)
* AllAboutTheGames says "It's a real rough diamond, it takes someone with enough patience to look past the jagged edges to see the real jewel at the core." - 3/5 (XBox)
* incgamers' conclusion is a real surprise: "If you've played Fable II to and are looking for an RPG distraction to tide you over until Fable 3 comes out, you could do worse than Risen. I'd just wait until the first price drop before picking it up." - 6.4/10 (XBox)
* RealGamer reaches a new low: 3/10. (XBox) Here's the most funny paragraph: "The thing that annoys me most about Risen is the brazen way it steals ideas from so many better sources and pretends that they are in some way original. After half an hour an experienced RPG-er will likely be suffering from severe gamer deja-vu: chests are hidden and opened exactly as they are in Fable, the item collection and filing is practically the same as in Monster Hunter, dialogue and character interactions are a very poor copy of the system used by Bethesda, the setting has been done a hundred times before and the whole thing ends up feeling like a collection of leftovers."
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http://www.rpgwatch.com/#13359
 
Stefan9 said:
...those things where in the previous gothic which were around before fable and around the same time as morrowind so how did piranha bytes steal bethesda and fable's ideas??
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Oh, there'll always be people who feel their e-penis threatened when a less-popular game first implemented certain mechanics and continues to do a better job at it than the others.

I'm one of the (apparently) few people who loved G1 and G2 but hated Morrowind and Oblivion to the core. They were utterly lifeless and had no soul, in my opinion.

And Fable isn't really that comparable to the darker side of the RPG genre.

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Hmmm a lot of mixed reviews.
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Played it for nine hours yesterday before teh necessity to take a break hit me. While opinions are guaranteed to differ, I see this game as the game Gothic 3 should've been. I see it as Gothic 2 remade in what I could only think of as beautifully.

I will miss Milten, I will miss Xardas, I will miss the nameless hero I grew to love, but Risen has won a huge place in my heart already and I think it's going to stay there.

I felt horribly profound yesterday and thought to myself, Piranha Bytes haven't made a brilliant Gothic, they've actually just made a brilliant game using the same formula that caused me to fall so madly in love with G2.

I love the combat - you actually sit on the edge of your seat trying your best to block in time and time the perfect opportunity to counter - I think it's incredibly enjoyable :3

I finally met Inquisitor Mendoza after getting the consent and the blessing in Harbourtown to join the Monastery yesterday too, and he's totally the shizznit :3

I cannot find the words to describe how happy I am with this game. It's everything I wanted it to be and it still continues to surprise me :)

SPOILER ALERT: One of my favourite parts so far is in the Monastery where you have to find the Alchemist Master (I forget his name :o), and there's a secret passage (won't say where :D) you need to use to find him and then you have to make use of green orbs with spells bound into them to find him and.... I just enjoyed that so much :3

This game has won my heart in much the same way G2 did. I couldn't be happier playing a game as I am playing this one :D

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Morrowwind was ok but didn't like oblivion much. Generally don't like bethesda's games, considers fallout 3 vastly inferior to fallout 1 and fallout 2.

I really should get G1 of gog.com. Loved Gothic 2, didn't like 3 much. But this game is very good.

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So far I am leaning towards going with the bandits.
 
So can anyone answer me on the loot system? Is it random generated like Gothic 3 or the way it was in 2?
 
Stefan9 said:
Morrowwind was ok but didn't like oblivion much. Generally don't like bethesda's games, considers fallout 3 vastly inferior to fallout 1 and fallout 2.
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I don't want to derail this thread in any way, but there is yet to be a single Bethesda RPG (or even game) that I 100% enjoy and feel a "bond" with. In Fallout 3, and this I've said to a couple of people already, your dad runs off in about 15 minutes of play time, then you save him, then he dies and it's all, "Oh... um... ok." You don't feel any real bond to any NPC in that game and it just feels... lifeless.

Oblivion was all gloss and no substance to me. And Morrowind? I thought it was atrocious... It never did anything for me either...

I really should get G1 of gog.com. Loved Gothic 2, didn't like 3 much. But this game is very good.
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I own originals of all three :D I enjoyed G1, but it was difficult to get into, since I played G2 first, but I still found it enjoyable. G3 was a disappointment. I won't say it was bad, but it felt shallow to me (Fallout 3, Oblivion :p) and redundant.
 
Isengard said:
So can anyone answer me on the loot system? Is it random generated like Gothic 3 or the way it was in 2?
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I'm not 100% sure... I've never looted the same chest twice :D I can't remember whether chests contained the same stuff before/after a save either... Sorry... I'm tempted to say it's the same as G2, but can't be certain...
 
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