Gender bender

Jaco Smit

Jaco Smit

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Woohoo, click bait Ya'll.

I am considering making a girl character for Ghost Recon Wildlands to play with.

If you have a choice, do you always go with your gender or do you mix it up?
 
Most of the time I used to play a male character. Lately I've been mixing it up. The advantage of playing a female character is that you have something nice to look at while playing. Um so I pick a male character when playing a first person game. :D

For instance I'm currently playing Dragon Age Inquisition and I'm playing a female character. They were nice enough to make it possible to have relations with another female character.

If that wasn't possible then I would have played a male character. :p
 
I always play female chars when possible, mainly because I can't handle the way they make males run :P It always looks weird to me.
 
I always play female. The thought of a woman who is powerful and can do everything in game that a man can appeals to me, but then I am a feminist. Games with only a male protagonist do not appeal to me much, never played any Witcher, I have some very strong objections to that game, for obvious reasons.

Whats more, I HATE games where the female characters or NPCs are forced to wear high heels as a combat uniform. The same for revealing combat gear. The fact that such games exist is a direct indicator of who the game is designed for.

Practicality, when your life is in danger, will far outweigh the need to provide eye candy.

And yes, I am male and no I am not either overtly or secretly gay. Happily married for many years with 2 kids. Both kids are daughters, you can guess who in the house gets really irate when his girls want to go out in high heels.
 
Shrike said:
I always play female. The thought of a woman who is powerful and can do everything in game that a man can appeals to me, but then I am a feminist. Games with only a male protagonist do not appeal to me much, never played any Witcher, I have some very strong objections to that game, for obvious reasons.

Whats more, I HATE games where the female characters or NPCs are forced to wear high heels as a combat uniform. The same for revealing combat gear. The fact that such games exist is a direct indicator of who the game is designed for.

Practicality, when your life is in danger, will far outweigh the need to provide eye candy.

And yes, I am male and no I am not either overtly or secretly gay. Happily married for many years with 2 kids. Both kids are daughters, you can guess who in the house gets really irate when his girls want to go out in high heels.
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Blasphemy !!!


This had me thinking of the amount of people who complained that OW characters had uhm... booties that were too booty licious.
And in the latest update, people complained about Mei whose waist got narrower, Blizzard then handled it very wisely and said it was a bug.
What do you personally think of that?
 
Flex said:
Blasphemy !!!


This had me thinking of the amount of people who complained that OW characters had uhm... booties that were too booty licious.
And in the latest update, people complained about Mei whose waist got narrower, Blizzard then handled it very wisely and said it was a bug.
What do you personally think of that?
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When I saw those objections I was actually pleasantly surprised, looks like the gaming community is trending away from a misogynistic crowd of teenage kids. Of course, those were probably a very vocal but very small minority, still an improvement.
 
I always though and tried my best to make the ingame character an extension of myself, I give it a almost beer gut etc. But with ARK I started changing it up by adding long monkey arms and short legs.

For some reason Minecraft always makes me spawn as Alex.
 
Shrike said:
When I saw those objections I was actually pleasantly surprised, looks like the gaming community is trending away from a misogynistic crowd of teenage kids. Of course, those were probably a very vocal but very small minority, still an improvement.
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But did you personally have an issue with it seeing as you are a feminist? Just quite interesting to me.
I agree that in game like Guild Wars and even WoW sometime the females armor is not practical in real life scenarios. But then again it is not real life.
Like in the Over Watch example when the heroes were 1st released, they looked curvaceous and not provocative at all and yet people still complained. Was it really valid and necessary?

My take on it is that when a woman or even man (for the ladies playing) looks sexy and appealing while being in a power role in a game does it not make it more appealing that they can look how they look and still be as effective and powerful as they are.
 
Flex said:
But did you personally have an issue with it seeing as you are a feminist? Just quite interesting to me.
I agree that in game like Guild Wars and even WoW sometime the females armor is not practical in real life scenarios. But then again it is not real life.
Like in the Over Watch example when the heroes were 1st released, they looked curvaceous and not provocative at all and yet people still complained. Was it really valid and necessary?

My take on it is that when a woman or even man (for the ladies playing) looks sexy and appealing while being in a power role in a game does it not make it more appealing that they can look how they look and still be as effective and powerful as they are.
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Ironically its something that makes me stop playing a game, its why I hate all asian mmos, I cannot handle the "outfits". I am not a feminist at all, but there is a line that I just cant handle. I dont game to look at females bodies semi naked all the time. I play for a story. that is why I always made a Fem Shepard, and so forth.
 
Wyvern said:
Ironically its something that makes me stop playing a game, its why I hate all asian mmos, I cannot handle the "outfits". I am not a feminist at all, but there is a line that I just cant handle. I dont game to look at females bodies semi naked all the time. I play for a story. that is why I always made a Fem Shepard, and so forth.
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Definitely agree that some games especially asian mmos tend to do that yeah.
Interesting to hear all the opinions and thoughts though. Never really heard it from the other sides perspective before
 
Depends on character mostly. Warrior/fighter type characters I mostly play as a male. Thief, wizard and magical type characters, females. I kinda like the idea of old school RPGs like Baldurs Gate and Icewind dale, were it doesnt matter which gender you chose, what mattered was what stats you choose. Obviously race mattered, but thats just a trait, all races has both a weak and string point. (Wonder if someone has raised an issue with that, calling it racist that humans arent imune to magic or something like that...probably)

Wyvern said:
Ironically its something that makes me stop playing a game, its why I hate all asian mmos, I cannot handle the "outfits". I am not a feminist at all, but there is a line that I just cant handle. I dont game to look at females bodies semi naked all the time. I play for a story. that is why I always made a Fem Shepard, and so forth.
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Yeah, I agree with that, my female characters are always clad in something that would fit their role, much like male characters would. I sometimes wonder what kind of guy plays games like that new VR game where you can look at girls in bikini's and even sort of push them around.

In saying the above, I dont think its always wrong or bad for a guy to use a female character clad in very little. How do I put this, guys are guys, we are more stimulated with visuals and I would bet, its a phase most guys go through, much like buying a girlie mag. But most healthy guys move on and get over it. I am no psychiatrist, just a random guy.

I do feel though, that we are absurdly bombarded by sex (and voilence) these days from the media (games movies, series, adds, printed media, etc), which isnt healthy.
 
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Flex said:
But did you personally have an issue with it seeing as you are a feminist? Just quite interesting to me.
I agree that in game like Guild Wars and even WoW sometime the females armor is not practical in real life scenarios. But then again it is not real life.
Like in the Over Watch example when the heroes were 1st released, they looked curvaceous and not provocative at all and yet people still complained. Was it really valid and necessary?

My take on it is that when a woman or even man (for the ladies playing) looks sexy and appealing while being in a power role in a game does it not make it more appealing that they can look how they look and still be as effective and powerful as they are.
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I did not play either game, so did not see the issue until it was raised. You have a good point, if a female body model is out of proportion to provide bigger visual sexual stimulus and the male body is made out of proportion (which they are often) for the same reason, should the male body model be toned down to be more realistic as the female one would be?

Very good question that. I guess we will have to go deeper into the psychology of physical attraction markers between genders to answer it. Does the female brain attach a more positive appeal to overly big musculature to the same degree that the male brain does for bigger breasts? I don't know. I guess both are objectifying, which is the root issue.

For me personally, I have to keep asking myself: at which end of the objectifying scale has the most danger to humans been for 100s of years? Who stands to lose the most if we continue the way we have been for all those years? Certainly not men.

Even if we shift our culture radically to objectify men more than women within a space of a 100 years, it will still be a very long time before men are negatively affected by it.
 
Shrike said:
I did not play either game, so did not see the issue until it was raised. You have a good point, if a female body model is out of proportion to provide bigger visual sexual stimulus and the male body is made out of proportion (which they are often) for the same reason, should the male body model be toned down to be more realistic as the female one would be?

Very good question that. I guess we will have to go deeper into the psychology of physical attraction markers between genders to answer it. Does the female brain attach a more positive appeal to overly big musculature to the same degree that the male brain does for bigger breasts? I don't know. I guess both are objectifying, which is the root issue.

For me personally, I have to keep asking myself: at which end of the objectifying scale has the most danger to humans been for 100s of years? Who stands to lose the most if we continue the way we have been for all those years? Certainly not men.

Even if we shift our culture radically to objectify men more than women within a space of a 100 years, it will still be a very long time before men are negatively affected by it.
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Love the response and agree 100%. Do think that some feminists do sometimes go a bit overboard though, Not all though just some.
Here is the example of the Mei "Bug". I see nothing wrong with either image to be honest.

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Wyvern said:
Ironically its something that makes me stop playing a game, its why I hate all asian mmos, I cannot handle the "outfits". I am not a feminist at all, but there is a line that I just cant handle. I dont game to look at females bodies semi naked all the time. I play for a story. that is why I always made a Fem Shepard, and so forth.
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My Fem Shepard still is one of my most memorable gaming characters. Randomized face made her look so normal and SO not like a US series teenage actress. I still have great memories of her in ME2.
 
Shrike said:
I always play female. The thought of a woman who is powerful and can do everything in game that a man can appeals to me, but then I am a feminist. Games with only a male protagonist do not appeal to me much, never played any Witcher, I have some very strong objections to that game, for obvious reasons.

Whats more, I HATE games where the female characters or NPCs are forced to wear high heels as a combat uniform. The same for revealing combat gear. The fact that such games exist is a direct indicator of who the game is designed for.

Practicality, when your life is in danger, will far outweigh the need to provide eye candy.

And yes, I am male and no I am not either overtly or secretly gay. Happily married for many years with 2 kids. Both kids are daughters, you can guess who in the house gets really irate when his girls want to go out in high heels.
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Interesting. I'm pro choice again. I'm also pro art. I like that should I want to play something like the Witcher then I can because it's there and it exists and it's my choice whether I want to play it or not. I don't play it because Geralt annoys me. :) But for instance you won't play something like Bayonetta. She is a strong character and it's a great game. She oozes sexuality however. And personally I don't think she's all that good looking. She's an amazing character however!

I like beauty. And I see it in many things. Liara Tsoni? Absolutely beautiful.

Oh well, busy with work so can't really delve into this all that much now.
 
Ooh, so reading all this. Make her beautiful and don't don her in lingerie.

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