Interesting!!!! 8 Mbps uncapped ADSL!!

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Telkom said earlier this year that they are planning to bump up their top ADSL speeds from 4 Mbps to at least 8 Mbps (and even 10 Mbps or 12 Mbps depending on trial results) in the next few weeks.



This was posted yesterday! 23 March 2010!!!
Hope it happens sooner than later!!!!

8 - 12MB on an uncapped account! Ye-Haa!!!
IMAGINE!!!!!
 
This is actually quite common overseas...
your celebrating something common overseas but extremely rare in SA
how does it feel to know that you've been missing out on a lot :p?
 
This is nothing new, we all know the rest of the world has infinately better offerings. Typical South african responses.
 
Stop being so damn negative mates! We're in South Africa. Since the golden years have passed we can be glad we still have indoor plumbing that's still working. Heck, we can be glad we even have electricity to post on this forum...although that's not going to be here for much longer.

As for the upgrade in ADSL line speeds: Freaking hoooraaahh. Bring it on!
 
http://mybroadband.co.za/news/adsl/11876.html

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Telkom said earlier this year that they are planning to bump up their top ADSL speeds from 4 Mbps to at least 8 Mbps (and even 10 Mbps or 12 Mbps depending on trial results) in the next few weeks.



This was posted yesterday! 23 March 2010!!!
Hope it happens sooner than later!!!!

8 - 12MB on an uncapped account! Ye-Haa!!!
IMAGINE!!!!!

I would assume once 4mb guys are bumped up, the price should remain the same and 8mb on afrihost becomes 10mb or 12mb?
 
Mate of mine in Tokyo has a 100mbps line to his house.

And sub 500kb/s download speeds for just about anything outside of Japan.

To the op, keep in mind that the 'uncapped' accounts we're seeing in SA right now are limited in speed for the account as opposed to the connection they run on; to have 8mbps uncapped you'd have to run two separate 4mbps uncapped account sessions on the line at once, unless an 8mbps account had to come about.
 
To the op, keep in mind that the 'uncapped' accounts we're seeing in SA right now are limited in speed for the account as opposed to the connection they run on; to have 8mbps uncapped you'd have to run two separate 4mbps uncapped account sessions on the line at once, unless an 8mbps account had to come about.

That's the whole point of the thread. Telkom have been testing 8Mbps connections and are going to start trialing the 10 and 12Mbps versions. Once the 8Mbps gets launched, Afrihost plan to have uncapped 8Mbps accounts.
 
Well at the moment Afrihost charge R497 for an uncapped account on a 4mb line but the price for uncapped on a 8mb line is R997 (it says coming soon). So what happens when Telkom upgrades my line to 8mb? Will I be forced to pay R997 if I want uncapped? o.O
 
Well at the moment Afrihost charge R497 for an uncapped account on a 4mb line but the price for uncapped on a 8mb line is R997 (it says coming soon). So what happens when Telkom upgrades my line to 8mb? Will I be forced to pay R997 if I want uncapped? o.O

Not necessarily. You could just opt for 4MB uncapped. Obviously you'd only be able to download at 4mbps but that's what you pay for.
 
Not necessarily. You could just opt for 4MB uncapped. Obviously you'd only be able to download at 4mbps but that's what you pay for.

OK, so then it's basically Afrihost doing the throttling right? Hmm. Say I change to a capped account from Axxess/Webafrica, will my line then be back at 8mb? Simply put will it basically be the account that is limited to 4mb and not my line?
 
Mate of mine in Tokyo has a 100mbps line to his house.

True my dad went on business trip there. Mostly businesses are running 100mb but if in the right area you get it to and you only pay connection... LUCKY BASTARDS!!!
 
Fair enough, after looking around a bit more I saw, as you mentioned, that Afrihost has a 'coming soon' 8mbps package in the works.

Blaq, you can get 100mbps over the vast majority of Japan from NTT, when not other service providers.

For that matter, in some of the major cities, you can get a Fiber connection providing up to 1gbps connectivity to your home. Problem is still that those speeds will only realistically be achieved in almost all cases when you are downloading from a local server as opposed to an international one. In addition, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people that drool over 100mbps/1gbps connectivity would like to use it for ultimately illegal purposes, ignoring the fact that Japan is extremely stringent when it comes to their enforcement of anti-piracy laws, to the point of actually monitoring any connections pushing large amounts of data a month, whether businesses or home consumers.
 
OK, so then it's basically Afrihost doing the throttling right? Hmm. Say I change to a capped account from Axxess/Webafrica, will my line then be back at 8mb? Simply put will it basically be the account that is limited to 4mb and not my line?

That's my understanding of it, yes. I've got a free 250mb account from MyISP. Want to use it when we get bumped up for lol's.
 
Well, as an example, Closer 4 which has 384kbps dsl included from Telkom costs R468 VAT included. From, I think, Afrihost or IS directly, it's R200 for a 384kbps uncapped account, so total cost would amount to roughly R670 or so.

Worth noting is that the Closer 4 and 5 packages include, to my knowledge, everything as far as costs are concerned; caller ID, voicemail, line rental, dsl rental etc.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people that drool over 100mbps/1gbps connectivity would like to use it for ultimately illegal purposes,

You need to remember that things like streaming video and music are much bigger there than here - so those connection speeds are quite useful. I mean, even on a 4mbps line, a HD vid takes a while to buffer. I'm sure there are plenty of other applications worth considering as well that don't include any illegal purposes.

We just don't consider it because we've never really had exposure to these technologies.
 
You need to remember that things like streaming video and music are much bigger there than here - so those connection speeds are quite useful. I mean, even on a 4mbps line, a HD vid takes a while to buffer. I'm sure there are plenty of other applications worth considering as well that don't include any illegal purposes.

We just don't consider it because we've never really had exposure to these technologies.

Streaming on 4mbps takes long here because of shaping with our ISPs and contention/shaping along the routes from servers such as Youtube, Megavideo, Myspace Videos and the like. The actual bitrate of a 720p stream from a site such as Youtube is usually closer to 1.4mbps or so, you can thank the aforementioned for making those videos stream slowly.

Something to keep in mind is, 'what is being streamed'?

Look at what the vast majority of consumers on 4mbps connections use their connection for right now, when not looking at rich users that just want the best and the fastest; you'll often find that it's primarily for downloading anime (technically illegal or entirely illegal title dependent), downloading anime soundtracks (illegal), reading online manga (technically illegal or entirely illegal title dependent), downloading movies, downloading games, whether free or pirated etc.

You can stream internet radio using 30kbps AAC for a lot of stations, which amounts to pretty high quality in stereo; such a stream, run 12 hours a day every day of the month amounts to 4.75gb/month. In terms of cap, that'll be a non issue entirely for those running 384kbps/512kbps and an uncapped account. In terms of bandwidth, it doesn't really make a noticeable impact on even the 384kbps connection, coming in at using less than a tenth of its capacity.

You still can't stream videos (specifically 720p or 1080p depending on ISP, source and congestion along the route) properly irrespective of whether you have a 4mbps connection or even 8mbps due to the aforementioned; you can only buffer some of it and hope that while it's playing, there will be spikes of high-speed loading of the stream that'll keep you from reaching the buffer limit.


I can think of a variety of things that I would like to be able to do with my connection that don't constitute illegal usage that would still use up a fair chunk of bandwidth, however, a large portion of consumers wouldn't be doing the same things and would likely still be quite comfortable for everyday use (once you cut out illegal things they might have otherwise done) using a cap as limited as 30gb; the reality of this country is that people cannot afford a lot of things they'd like to have, so what they can get for cheaper or free, whether legal or not, they will. This is most often games, movies, music and other media that can be pirated, such as anime or manga.

Fansubs, I'm sure you're aware, are only sort-of legal until they get licensed by a company like Funimation or an equally lame american company that will ultimately butcher the series and throw on subtitles that make no sense. Once those titles are licensed, again as I'm sure you're aware, it becomes illegal to be in possession of or attempt to obtain the media in question, fansub or licensed version, in any format that is not the purchased DVD or an otherwise online-purchased DRM protected (think windows media guide online store) version of the media.

What do South Africans do? LANs, internet-based downloads. We can't afford or don't want to have to suffer the horrible subbing and dubbing of the Funimation etc releases, so we don't buy the DVD or online versions and obtain the fansub versions instead.

End of the day, illegal activity. :/
 
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