Jiggling is part of Japanese Culture - DoA Dev

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Jiggling are part of Japanese Culture - DoA Dev

Yosuke Hayashi says Team Ninja won't change the way it represents female characters.

In a recent interview the head of Team Ninja, Yosuke Hayashi, talked about Dead or Alive 5, and what players could expect from the most recent addition to the franchise. Dead or Alive has been notorious for its portrayal of female characters, and naturally the conversation turned to their portrayal in the latest game. What could players expect? Hayashi was unrepentant, claiming that the representation of women in DoA was a part of Japanese culture and Team Ninja wasn't about to change its ways.

"For us, within our culture," said Hayashi, "we're showing women like that, and we're trying to make them look attractive. We can't help if other cultures in other countries around the globe think that it's a bad representation. Within our nationality and within our national borders, we obviously have morals that we create our female characters from, but within our Japanese sensibilities, we've made those characters the way they are and we're not going to stop doing that." He also said it was "common sense" to portray females in the DoA style, though in context he may not have intended the phrase "common sense" in the same way English speakers would understand the term. The full quote reads: "We are a Japanese developer, and we're making the female characters with our common sense and our creative sense. When you take that to countries outside of Japan, it tends to be very misinterpreted in some cases, people considering it sexist or derogatory etc."

Though Hayashi claimed that Dead or Alive 5 would be more sophisticated than its predecessors, it became clear that he was referring to visual style only. "We really wanted to make the game look good in motion," he said, "and not shy away from adding a layer of filth and grit. We're making a game that looks like it could be a blockbuster movie, while being grounded in a fighting game."

Dead or Alive 5, jiggling warts and all, is due out in September 2012 for Xbox 360 and the PS3.
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Strange most actual Japanese girls I've seen are usually quite petite with not much in terms of "jigglene". Sure there are exceptions but to hide the old "its part of our culture" shield seems rather juvenile.
 
"For us, within our culture," said Hayashi, "we're showing women like that, and we're trying to make them look attractive. We can't help if other cultures in other countries around the globe think that it's a bad representation. Within our nationality and within our national borders, we obviously have morals that we create our female characters from, but within our Japanese sensibilities, we've made those characters the way they are and we're not going to stop doing that."
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so Japanese just has really low moral values? And can you really argue that they have low moral values when they say its their culture?
 
Enlightened End said:
so Japanese just has really low moral values? And can you really argue that they have low moral values when they say its their culture?
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So, say some fighting game jerk claims sexual harassment is part "fighting game culture" does that make that ok day too?

Aris Bakhtanians's comments on sexual harassment in "fighting game culture.
You can't. You can't because they're one and the same thing. This is a community that's, you know, 15 or 20 years old, and the sexual harassment is part of a culture, and if you remove that from the fighting game community, it's not the fighting game community—it's StarCraft. There's nothing wrong with StarCraft if you enjoy it, and there's nothing wrong with anything about eSports, but why would you want just one flavor of ice cream, you know? There's eSports for people who like eSports, and there's fighting games for people who like spicy food and like to have fun. There's no reason to turn them into the same thing, you know?
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The whole "its part of the culture" thing was debated HERE as well.
 
OmegaFenix said:
Strange most actual Japanese girls I've seen are usually quite petite with not much in terms of "jigglene". Sure there are exceptions but to hide the old "its part of our culture" shield seems rather juvenile.
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Yeah, it's more like a admission that they really have no valid argument. I'm a bit mystified that he would say "we're trying to make them look attractive". Is that portrayal what we (or in his argument, they) define as attractive?
 
Boob physics aside, the DOA series still has one of the most deepest technical fighting systems to master. I will get it on release.
 
OmegaFenix said:
Strange most actual Japanese girls I've seen are usually quite petite with not much in terms of "jigglene". Sure there are exceptions but to hide the old "its part of our culture" shield seems rather juvenile.
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Same here.

Strifehart said:
Boob physics aside, the DOA series still has one of the most deepest technical fighting systems to master. I will get it on release.
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That and Virtua Fighter, awesome fighting mechanics.

As far as the boobs go, it isn't really different from anything else that you can experience anywhere on the internet or television. I remember that there was a 'Bouncing Boobs' option which could be toggled on and off in the options menu of DoA2.
 
TheAvenged87 said:
Same here.



That and Virtua Fighter, awesome fighting mechanics.

As far as the boobs go, it isn't really different from anything else that you can experience anywhere on the internet or television. I remember that there was a 'Bouncing Boobs' option which could be toggled on and off in the options menu of DoA2.
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See I feel that, much like COD releasing pretty much the same game every year, instead of just complaining about it I refuse to buy it. I didn't buy the last 2 CODs, I didn't get the last Soul Calibur and I wont get this. The devs have no reason to stop making this sort of stuff unless their pockets take a hit. Would the lack of ginormous bouncing sacks of flesh take anything away from the fighting part of the game? I doubt it, what it would do is maybe manage to slowly push this juvenile "sex sells" mentality out of gaming and may even do something for the issues with sexual harassment in fighting game "culture".

My entire feeling on DOA and their "sex sells" mentality can be seen Here - http://mygaming.co.za/forum/showthr...-to-Dead-or-Alive-5?highlight=Soul+Calibur+Ad
 
What disturbs me out most about DoA is not so much the ridiculous boobs, but the very young faces. The female characters look like 10-year old girls with adult bodies. That's super fucking creepy and part of the Japanese obsession with infantilising women.
 
Azimuth said:
What disturbs me out most about DoA is not so much the ridiculous boobs, but the very young faces. The female characters look like 10-year old girls with adult bodies. That's super fucking creepy and part of the Japanese obsession with infantilising women.
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I actually read through the Wikipedia article on Women in Japan this morning, some interesting stuff in there. Like how in the 12th Century Women had pretty much most of the rights modern women have and it then digressed from there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Japan

I would like to know what is the origin of the infantilising of women in Japanese culture especially Anime, Manga & gaming.
 
I must say that in a lot of ways, Japanese people are, I want to say weird, but maybe wacky is a better word. I watched a bit of "I survived a Japanese game show" last night :wtf:. They do the weirdest things, like getting all oiled up and sliding across the bellies of a bunch of Sumo Wrestlers. Also Takeshi's Castle ...

This is totally aside from the stuff that comes up on the internet
 
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