Killing Like a Girl: The Invisible Girl Gamer - Research

But being chat-up is a common occurrence anyway for any girl, gamer or not, to endure. We just have to walk into a club. So it isn't so much that the guy is a gamer - it's more the fact that boys will be boys, and most ladies understand this and tolerate it in their own way. If we get annoyed, we just ignore, or have our ways to developing strict friendships :p

That's an interesting point. I never thought of it that way (having never been a girl before :p).
Besides, I am well and truly out of the whole trying to hook up with people phase of my life (been with my wife for 10 years, married about 4 years now), so I don't really think about that sort of thing much.
 
- Only 50% female gamers are serious because not every female into games or technology stuff
- Yes, I want see how female games like
- Not a female gamer, so i cant share any of there exp.
- Cant really say it a female gamer because male gamer dont like it and usually they rate a female game because it a more girly type game and male gamer not interest
- No
- You can never tell because female can be using guys name etc.
- Yes
- I'm not sure
- Dont think so
 
- Do you feel there are some serious female gamers out there? Why?
A: Yes, I'm one of them. And I have friends that are.

- Have you ever played a female gamer? How did you know?
A: Yes I was speaking online with her. And I have a real (as in I play in the same room as her) friend who plays games hardcore.

- Are you a female gamer? If so, do you care to tell us what games you play?
Yes, FPS, RPG, 3rd Person shooter, Action/Adventure, Indie games, point and click games.

- Are you a serious female gamer, i.e. how often do you play?
A: Yes, I play every day I can. Preferably no longer than 2 days without gaming, well that's if I have new games to play at least.

- Does your mom, sister, girlfriend, spouse or aunt game?
A: A very big NO.

- Do you suspect some psuedonyms to belong to girl gamer's but stop wondering because chances are you would never find out and just decide that it is not a female one because girls do not do gaming anyway?
A: I usually think it's a girl if the name is something like "Pinkheart" lol, but if I'll ever know I don't care.

- If you are a female gamer, have you ever been asked out on a date via the in game chat/text facility by a fellow gamer?
A: No o_O

- Girls, when you were online (in the game) were you ever confused for a male gamer?
A: Yes plenty of times.
 
Do you feel there are some serious female gamers out there? Why?
Yes. I've played / corresponded with a handful (e.g. Raakel <Paragon>, Therese <Ensidia> and Vanda <Ensidia>), however, they're few and far between.

Are you a female gamer? If so, do you care to tell us what games you play?
Yes. I've played pen-and-paper RPGs and gamed competitively (DOS–Nintendo–Windows) since childhood.

List in chronological order (excludes detailed information on consoles as they were'nt my medium of choice):
Various Arcade games (solo)
Various Nintendo games (solo)
Various DOS games (solo)
MUME ~ the best MUD online. (played hardcore for 6 yrs+)
Sid Meier's Civilization (solo)
Warcraft (LAN)
Quake (solo/LAN)
Baldur's Gate (LAN)
Half-life (LAN)
Starcraft / Broodwars (LAN)
Unreal Tournament (LAN)
Counterstrike (online/LAN)
Neverwinter Nights (online)
Diablo 2 (online) Played HC
World of Warcraft (part of the progression raiding team – raiding 3-4 nights a week for 7 years)
Starcraft 2 (online)
Dragon Nest (online)

Soon to be playing:
Rusty Hearts
Diablo III
Guild Wars 2
Blade and Soul
WildStar
Secret World
Tera
World of Warcraft: MoP

Are you a serious female gamer, i.e. how often do you play?
I'd like to think that I am. I play every day – except when I'm at work, partying with mates, training or watching Anime!
Week: Sometimes squeeze in a dungeon or two before I leave for work – then 5 hrs+ in the evening.
If we're pushing progression in an expansion, I usually chill until it's time to log on – then engage in 3 hrs+ of uninterrupted raiding.
Weekends: Too much I suppose ... When I'm not out for coffee, grocery shopping or training –*I'm gaming.

Does your mom, sister, girlfriend, spouse or aunt game?
No. Though my mother does favour the odd Casino visit ...

Do you suspect some pseudonyms to belong to girl gamers’ but stop wondering because chances are you would never find out and just decide that it is not a female one because girls do not do gaming anyway?
Over the years, most female characters I've met have been turned out to be males. A tiny percentage has been female. So mostly I expect them to be males until informed otherwise.

If you are a male gamer, would you ask a female gamer out on a date?
No. But I'd ask Natalie Portman, Angelina and Katherine Moennig out on a date.

If you are a female gamer, have you ever been asked out on a date via the in game chat/text facility by a fellow gamer?
Yes. But I was in a serious relationship with a gamer for many years, so I'd explain my situation and politely decline while expressing my desire to continue the friendship.

Girls, when you were online (in the game) were you ever confused for a male gamer?
Yes. But not by accident. I stayed "mum" so that I'd be treated the same as my male counterparts.
Most of my characters are male because there's less pressure that way. It's commonplace to be treated differently once you're known to be female - no matter how serious you are about gaming. Some players feel the need to patronise or stereotype us and it can be very frustrating. I do have a silent chuckle each time I'm called "dude" though.

As a matter of interest I'd like to add that I've never played The Sims or Farmville ... not even once.

You had your angsty feminist gamers as well as girl gamers who thought the sun shone out of their keyholes because they were serious girl gamers. So, no, there shouldn't be a promotion of girl gaming communities. Rather, there should be a promotion of respect and welcome for girl gamers into general gaming communities.
THIS ^^^. I myself appreciate a beautiful girl with a good body, however, these girls who drape themselves half naked (sometimes buck naked) all over their keyboards aren't helping our plight in the slightest. T&A does not constitute a good gamer – they constitute fappability. In addition to this, most of us don't relate to other females that well, feeling more comfortable in the company of men. It can actually be quite insular, as you're not "one of the boys", and there are usually no other girls to identify with.

The whole "girls don't play games stereotype" comes from the fact that girls, from a young age, are given barbies and babies and make-up and toy vacuum cleaners to play with. Boys are given guns and cool stuff which makes it easier for them to fall into the gaming realm - it's not as unfamiliar.
I grew up as a tom boy, having four big brothers. I never owned Barbie – I think I had one doll. I did however own one My Little Pony, Lego, A-team figurines and various plushies. My days were spent riding BMXs, roller-skating, skateboarding, building tree houses, making bows and arrows, playing video games and running around screaming "BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL!" with a male neighbour. Was has been difficult throughout life is finding girlfriends with similar interests. Only a few people like to run around screaming "BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL!" these days ...

A lot of females just don't speak openly or interact with other members of the gaming community as intensely as they would like to out of fear of some kind of retribution because gaming is supposed to be for 'boys'.
I personally feel shy / awkward doing so. I feel that being friendly or interacting too much may be misinterpreted as attention seeking. It's difficult to communicate your exact intentions via text. That's why IRL meets are beneficial.

... one other thing that can't be easy for the girl gamers, is that if people don't mind them being girls, they probably get hit on a lot while trying to play. Does that happen much?
I guess that depends what game you're playing. Most hardcore gamers don't give a crap how hot you are – If you fail and waste 9 or 24 other people's time – you'll get booted or demoted. True story. I'm sure it does happen a lot in the more casual games though.

I believe that guys and girls have a different taste in games, and you probably won't meet many girls on a COD server for instance.
Though I've actively participated in many FPS LANS in the past, I admit to favouring fantasty action MMORPGs over military-style FPS. I guess I prefer swords to guns – though I really enjoy Steampunk Anime-style shoot-em-ups like Rusty Hearts and Black Gold Online.
There is a crossover forming in MMO combat these days. This fluid, next gen, non-target, live action combat is the way of the future. I look forward to the release of games like Blade and Soul, Secret World and WildStar - all of whom utilise this combat style.
 
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Let's get down to it
Have I ever played a Girl?
Yes, I've played against many, and alongside a few, they were all open about their gender
If you want to learn more about girls playing competitively, google GOD Girls, one of THE best Quake Clans, comprised solely of Female Players, they were in SA at Rage a few years back and they pwnt everything that dared come up against them, Fatal1ty included.

My Spouse plays games, most notably COD 4, her name as most of the regulars on iGame can attest to, is synonymous with pure domination, this based on the fact that she was ranked number 1 on iGame Delta (For all 4000+ Players logged on the server for that time) for more than 12 Months, with myself holding the same position on Alpha.
We play together for the most part, console games included and then league stuff occasionally like with the iGame Starcraft 2 Leagues, I think some of the guys around the iGame section are still weary of coming up against the two of us :)

Have I asked her out on a Date?
Many many times, sometimes I luck out and she says yes :P
I do tend to generally do this in person though, and not over ingame VOIP or IM

Is she Smoking Hot?
This was not part of your question list, but yes, in fact she is

Is her name confused for a guy's?
Yes, I think most male gamers tend to accept that everyone online is male until they declare their gender otherwise.

Are Male gamers protective of their Female counterparts be they general community members, clan mates or girlfriends and spouses?
We at iGame are, we tend to hammer down hard on any guys being abusive towards any female gamers, we have had a few incidents of this type of adolescent behaviour and tend to deal with it in the strictest manner possible
This does come down to my personal policies though, and is enforced by my admin team

As for the old stereotype of gaming being for boys, let me be the first to debunk that, gaming is for people, not gender specific
Anyone that tells you otherwise is mistaken and most likely suffers from a lower IQ than your average potted fern.
There should be no segregation in gaming and no specific communities for specific genders, everyone knows that the only thing you need in a tight situation in a league final game is for the girl on your team to flash some skin right before she spits fire at the dumbstruck nerds against her, that have never felt the warmth of a womans touch, and kills them all :)
 
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I myself appreciate a beautiful girl with a good body, however, these girls who drape themselves half naked (sometimes buck naked) all over their keyboards aren't helping our plight in the slightest. T&A does not constitute a good gamer – they constitute fappability.

Dammit, and here I was hoping to be MyGaming's RAGE LAN Team's Booth Babe....


I grew up as a tom boy, having four big brothers. I never owned Barbie – I think I had one doll. I did however own one My Little Pony, Lego, A-team figurines and various plushies. My days were spent riding BMXs, roller-skating, skateboarding, building tree houses, making bows and arrows, playing video games and running around screaming "BY THE POWER OF GREY SKULL!" with a male neighbour. Was has been difficult throughout life is finding girlfriends with similar interests. Only a few people like to run around screaming "BY THE POWER OF GREY SKULL!" these days ...

As did I, but I did have the barbie thing put on me many times. Majority of girls (specifically in the past) were brought up to be girly and do girly things. Hopefully the younger generation of parents allows more openess for their girls, and boys, when they are growing up.
 
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all that is important is for me to ask if you did that while holding the Battlecat in one hand while doing it!

This question brings back many sad memories for me because I could only run screaming "BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL!" while holding a miff, second-hand He-man with a thingy at the back that moved his sword arm up and down. I wasn't allowed a Battle-Cat or Castle Grayskull because they were "too expensive". I had to visit my neighbour to check out his. His Castle Grayskull I mean. It was very sad ....

 
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Lol, I hear you ....... I got a He-Man and Man-at-Arms for a combined xmas pressy and a week later I won a Battlecat in a school raffle and my mom built me my own Grayskull. Exact replica nogal. Many a friend came over after that :)
 
all that is important is for me to ask if you did that while holding the Battlecat in one hand while doing it!

Speaking of He-Man, I think that everyone (guys at least) who was a kid in the 80's had at least one pair of He-Man underpants, and of course a Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles shirt.

Has anyone seen a picture of He-Man lately though? He's actually kinda gay looking

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@Mephisto_Helix @matt

I just had a good LOL there! Matt, He-man's probably gay from years of you wearing him on your noodle ... Anyone for Friday afternoon Robotech?
 
I don't know about you guys but the start of the 'She-ra' series made quite a change to my perspective on who can be a super hero.

Come to think of it, there aren't that many female super heros I know of except for the Power Puff girls (in modern day).

So, for me, She-ra was quite revolutionary and it did affect how I began to view women's position in society from then on I guess. Women can be super heros too.
 
I don't know about you guys but the start of the 'She-ra' series made quite a change to my perspective on who can be a super hero.

Come to think of it, there aren't that many female super heros I know of except for the Power Puff girls (in modern day).

So, for me, She-ra was quite revolutionary and it did affect how I began to view women's position in society from then on I guess. Women can be super heros too.

I don't know about there not being many hey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_superheroines
 
I don't know about you guys but the start of the 'She-ra' series made quite a change to my perspective on who can be a super hero.

Come to think of it, there aren't that many female super heros I know of except for the Power Puff girls (in modern day).

So, for me, She-ra was quite revolutionary and it did affect how I began to view women's position in society from then on I guess. Women can be super heros too.

I don't know about there not being many hey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_superheroines

My bad.

I did not realise there were that many female super heros.



On other matters. I am happy that lots of issues have come out of this discussion.

The general understanding in my opinion is that females indeed are a force in the gaming community (visible or otherwise).

This leads me to question whether or not some campaigns need to be developed to get females out of their shells (so to speak). Campaigns backed by strong research indicating that girls too find gaming a pastime worth their while.

Such a campaign would debunk the myth that gaming is for males only and that females actually constitute a significant portion of gaming communities.

From the posts here, I get the feeling that there are a lot more female gamers than we think there are. I also have a female friend of mine who indicated that she is into gaming (she is in her mid-30s).

Gaming communities should not be divided into male and female sub-sections. This will only polarise the communities and perpetuate gender stereotypes.
 
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My bad.

I did not realise there were that many female super heros.

To be honest, neither did I. But you have a good point regarding She-ra, she might have brought female super heroes more into the mainstream. It seems like there are quite a few in comic books though.

I must say that I tend to be fairly vocal in these sort of threads because it rubs me the wrong way that
1. People are biased against girl gamers and give them a hard time about it, and
2. That people think all guy gamers are like that, it's another stereotype that I would rather not be lumped in with

Besides, game lobbies do tend to be quite a sausage-fest. It would be nice to have more girls around imo
 
To be honest, neither did I. But you have a good point regarding She-ra, she might have brought female super heroes more into the mainstream. It seems like there are quite a few in comic books though.

I must say that I tend to be fairly vocal in these sort of threads because it rubs me the wrong way that
1. People are biased against girl gamers and give them a hard time about it, and
2. That people think all guy gamers are like that, it's another stereotype that I would rather not be lumped in with

Besides, game lobbies do tend to be quite a sausage-fest. It would be nice to have more girls around imo

lol.

Yeah. I agree with you on the part of sausage fest.

Perhaps one of my subconscious goals is to see a more visibly active number of female gamers. I too do not want to be lumped up with the numerous number of guys who (I have seen through my interactions with) feel and act as if the communities are a full on testosterone field.

I do believe that the powers that be would do well for themsleves, for gaming franchises and for you and I a whole load of good by promoting the idea of gaming as an activity for all - male and female.

Perhaps a side issue would also be that gaming is generally also seen as something for teenagers. I am well into my 30's and I am only just starting to really get into gaming. A US research I saw also said that the average gamer is 35 years old. But, that is a topic for another day.

@matt, thank you for your inputs and all the other contributors, especially the ladies.

I have seen a number of posts that I still need to go through more thoroughly and make some opinions about.
 
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