KillZone 2

Tinman

Tinman

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"If you own a PS3 and have been jealously resenting Xbox 360 owners for Gears of War, then Killzone 2 is what you have been waiting for."

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Yes, Good review.
However, based on it, I think some people might have overhyped it.
Like you said, hopefully people will remain realistic with their expectations.
It is called Killzone after all, which is most important.
 
Nice Review! However I think its been written from a PC gamers perspective mostly.
References to Crysis and all that also the main strength of the game is its multiplayer. I wish people would just wait to review the game in its entirety.
 
Solidus said:
Nice Review! However I think its been written from a PC gamers perspective mostly.
References to Crysis and all that also the main strength of the game is its multiplayer. I wish people would just wait to review the game in its entirety.
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Thanks. I meant to write it from a general gamers point of view. I also compare it to Gears of War and Bioshock.

And the multiplayer may be the main strength, but that is no excuse for a poor single player. Not that KillZone II has a poor single player, but it should have been longer.

At any rate, when the multiplayer is up and running properly I will update the article, and publish a separate multiplayer review.
 
Tinman said:
Thanks. I meant to write it from a general gamers point of view. I also compare it to Gears of War and Bioshock.

And the multiplayer may be the main strength, but that is no excuse for a poor single player. Not that KillZone II has a poor single player, but it should have been longer.

At any rate, when the multiplayer is up and running properly I will update the article, and publish a separate multiplayer review.
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But the thing is the game isn't comparable to Gears, Gears is a TPS.
Bioshock on the other hand is the best you'll get according to SP campaign.
I'd say its more to Call of Duty which was way shorter than 9.5hours.
Most games this generation are in fact too short so it comes as no surprise.
 
Yes but COD4 was also criticized for being too short.

And it really is not that different to Gears. It is an action heavy sci fi shooter that makes heavy use of a similar cover system. It also puts you up against an army of aliens, and revolves around location specific set pieces.

It is not exactly the same as Gears obviously. And you are right, it is also similar to COD4.

I maintain that 9.5 hours for a single player campaign is too short, but if you disagree then obviously you must disregard that point. That is why I state the fact = game time as well as my opinion = its too short, allowing you to decide for yourself.

For a game that's going to cost people close to 1k, I think that under 10 hours is a bit short. Also remember that many people are not interested in multiplayer, and expect to get their moneys worth in the SP campaign.

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I thought it relevant to compare it to Crysis, as Killzone 2 has got pretty much everybody's attention, including PC gamers. There are people that are considering buying a PS3 just for this game, so I figured they should know what it entails in comparison to alternative platforms
 
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Tinman said:
Yes but COD4 was also criticized for being too short.

And it really is not that different to Gears. It is an action heavy sci fi shooter that makes heavy use of a similar cover system. It also puts you up against an army of aliens, and revolves around location specific set pieces.

It is not exactly the same as Gears obviously. And you are right, it is also similar to COD4.

I maintain that 9.5 hours for a single player campaign is too short, but if you disagree then obviously you must disregard that point. That is why I state the fact = game time as well as my opinion = its too short, allowing you to decide for yourself.

For a game that's going to cost people close to 1k, I think that under 10 hours is a bit short. Also remember that many people are not interested in multiplayer, and expect to get their moneys worth in the SP campaign.
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Yup I agree there, it's solely based on opinion and like all reviews they are all subjective. Though the mechanic of Gears is prevalent in this game the mere fact that its an FPS makes it totally different even though the premise is the same. Also about the campaign comparison, Gears campaign is also about the same timeframe, maybe a little longer but thats depending on skill level. Many people interested in the game are looking more forward to the multiplayer due to the impressions of the beta that many participated in. All in all I'll post my own impressions when I get it eventually and then see how my opinion compares to yours.
 
Either way, I won't be buying a PS3 just for this game. That I can thank the review for.
Obviously I will read some other reviews as well, but thus far it seems like this game was hugely overhyped...

I actually appreciated the comparison to the other games, it puts different aspects of the game into perspective.

R1k for a 10 hour game? wtponiesponiesponies man!
 
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there is multiplayer as well. I've been playing cod 4 online since December 2007 :P
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Yup it's said the multiplayer rivals/beats that of COD4.
It's got a great ranking system as well and it's said that the matching will be pretty detailed.

Here's some details:

Let's get ready to rumble!When you've beaten the single-player campaign once (or a couple of times if you're trying to farm trophies), there's an extensive multiplayer component waiting for you, which is an awesome experience to play through. Not only is it incredibly deep, but there's a ton of things for newcomers and experienced veterans, which will ensure that people will play this game for many months to come. Multiplayer is broken into two segments: Skirmish and Warzone. Skirmish is the offline component of multiplayer, and is effectively a practice arena where you can take on up to 15 bots in multiplayer matches. You can pick all of your criteria for your rounds and test yourself against the bots, which all react to you based on the difficulty level that you set for them (again, going off the game's four difficulty settings). You'll also decide the match types you want to play, many of which are familiar to multiplayer veterans. Body Count is Team Deathmatch; Search and Retrieve is essentially Capture the Flag; and Capture and Hold is a zone-based mode.



Search and Destroy tasks one team with trying to blow up a location with two explosives before time runs out, while the other side attempts to defend that target and defuse any placed explosives. Assassination marks one player for death, and that player has to avoid being killed by rivals to score. What's great about the Skirmish mode is that it allows newcomers to get a sense of the maps that will be played within the online space, as well as the various classes and abilities granted within the multiplayer component of Killzone 2. Veterans can also get some skill as well, testing themselves against the stronger elite bots. While I still wish that the bots in Skirmish used their abilities or reviving beams more, it's at least refreshing to feel as though you're not going to instantly be a sitting duck.



Man down, people -- Man down!Warzone, on the other hand, is where things get interesting, and much more than the simple fact that your objectives constantly change to keep you on your toes. Players initially start out as a soldier, who can equip a limited amount of weapons and has one grenade and very little else to sustain him. However, just about anything that you do within a Warzone match, from placing a bomb during a Search and Destroy round to helping hold a checkpoint and destroying enemy turrets (along with killing your opponents), gives you points. The more you play, the more points you earn, and if your side happens to win the round, you get a 1.5x multiplier for your points. These go towards earning one of 12 ranks, which allows you to progress from a lowly private to a masterful general once you get to 2,800 points of online service. On top of these ranks, however, are additional player classes that you'll unlock, each of which carries its own kind of abilities and specialties.

There are six classes in all, ranging from medics that can revive players to Saboteurs that can disguise themselves to look like their enemies for stealth kills. While choosing a particular class allows you to do specific things on the battlefield, if you want to unlock the true potential of that class, you're going to need to acquire ribbons and medals, which are progress-based rewards for doing specific actions. For example, if you're a tactician, and you manage to place five spawn points in a round, you earn a ribbon. If you earn eight of those ribbons, you then earn a Spawn point medal, which unlocks the ability to create air support robots. This then starts you on a new ribbon/medal path, which will eventually lead you to be able to combine your skills with another class. This means that you could essentially create a death dealing medic that places sentry turrets behind him to cover his tracks, or an Assault Saboteur that can run through enemy lines and drop proximity mines that blow up whenever an enemy nears them. The fact that you can match so many different combinations and that it's based solely on medals will definitely keep people playing for a long time.

The real battle for Helghan starts when Multiplayer begins.The eight maps that are selected for multiplayer are really designed to amplify the amount of chaos that goes on within an online map, and considering that you can have up to 32 players in one round (which can include bots as well if you don't have enough people), the destruction can quickly ramp up. Helping out in this respect is the inclusion of a Squad feature, which allows one player to be a squad leader for his friends. This automatically gives all members a dedicated channel for communication of tactics. It also allows players to instantly spawn back in on the Squad Leader's position, providing instant reinforcements during a Capture and Hold round or extra soldiers during an Assassination attempt.
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I too still play COD4 online, this weekend is double XP weekend for PS3 and Xbox 360 players :D
 
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Not a pirate. Just smart. I formatted a lot and my pc got stolen twice. I won't go through all that effort again :p
 
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