Mass Effect 3 fans want a new game ending

Im not reading that incase it spoils it.

But may I just ask....

WTF!!!!!

Not only do we want to dictate whats in the game, now we want to tell them how to finish it? Offer them a finger and they will take an Arm comes to mind.

Having not seen any of the endings, but having watched enough movies, read enough sci-fi novels & have a dark enough Imagination to imagine how it ends. And you know what, they way I imagine it ending [Spoiler/] with everyone dying [/Spoiler] that is the only way to end it.

[Spoiler/]There are very few happy endings in the real world for the simple reason that the universe isn't a kind, gentle or even generally nice place. It is harsh, unforgiven and deadly at the best of times. The Mass Effect series has always tackled this headon not making any Lucasian (reference to George Lucas giving the Star Wars films an idealist ending - good guys live, bad guys dies etc.) BS. Either Ashley or Alenko have to die in Mass Effect 1, there is no way around it. Mass Effect is all about the tough choices and how you can't "win em all" or "save everybody". Any other, more jolly, less finalistic, ending would have felt shallow. Also since Bioware has clearly stated that while the universe may well be used again Shepard's story ends in Mass Effect 3 and the only way to make that un changeable it to kill him/her. The way Harry Potter should have ended :p[/Spoiler]

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Sorry can't read that either, not going to spoil the ending for myself, but I gotta say those people are entitled little spoiled brats. Who are they to demand anything?
 
Isengard said:
Sorry can't read that either, not going to spoil the ending for myself, but I gotta say those people are entitled little spoiled brats. Who are they to demand anything?
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I didn't like the ending of Harry Potter lets demand they change it.

Shit like this makes me seriously reconsider wanting to make games.... then I remember this is the minority. The Majority is out there actually played and enjoying possibly one of the best narratives in recent history (on any medium) and the best in gaming.
 
Movies next.

The amount of self-entitlement inherent in this whole movement stuns me. When did the gaming community drop to this level?

Wait ... nevermind ... don't answer that.
 
I have finished the game, and I can understand the negative feedback. While I agree, the Mass Effect universe isn't a tale of happy rainbows and unicorns farting sugar - it's a tale of tough choices with consequences that stretch pretty far ahead.

The game deals with that concept excellently...

I won't say anything more as to why, I feel, the backlash is deserved. But I think you'll understand a bit more when you actually hit the point yourself. For me, it's not about a difficult ending, or one that doesn't end happily for the entire universe - it's about keeping to the concept of taking my choices into account.

You'll see. Maybe you'll be fine with it, but I certainly wasn't.
 
qornea said:
I have finished the game, and I can understand the negative feedback. While I agree, the Mass Effect universe isn't a tale of happy rainbows and unicorns farting sugar - it's a tale of tough choices with consequences that stretch pretty far ahead.

The game deals with that concept excellently...

I won't say anything more as to why, I feel, the backlash is deserved. But I think you'll understand a bit more when you actually hit the point yourself. For me, it's not about a difficult ending, or one that doesn't end happily for the entire universe - it's about keeping to the concept of taking my choices into account.

You'll see. Maybe you'll be fine with it, but I certainly wasn't.
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The thing is, I haven't played the game. So maybe I shouldn't be commenting. But ...

I've watched plenty of movies, and series, and even played games, which I believe had a shitty ending. An ending I wasn't happy with. And unlike ME3, there was no way to play/watch/read etc etc which would allow you to get to an ending you were happier with. And maybe I felt a little let down by all of it, maybe I was even a bit pissed at the gall the creators had to end it contrary to my expectations.

But ... not once ... have I ever considered demanding that the creators, to whom the story belongs, rewrite the story to suit me, the consumer. The very concept is alien to my thinking.
 
qornea said:
I have finished the game, and I can understand the negative feedback. While I agree, the Mass Effect universe isn't a tale of happy rainbows and unicorns farting sugar - it's a tale of tough choices with consequences that stretch pretty far ahead.

The game deals with that concept excellently...

I won't say anything more as to why, I feel, the backlash is deserved. But I think you'll understand a bit more when you actually hit the point yourself. For me, it's not about a difficult ending, or one that doesn't end happily for the entire universe - it's about keeping to the concept of taking my choices into account.

You'll see. Maybe you'll be fine with it, but I certainly wasn't.
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Im going to keep posting in tags to avoid spoilers.

[Spoilers]Yes but choice only takes you so far, you can make a difference but some events can not be changed by choice. Astroid hits the earth, Massive Earth Quake, Flood, Tsunami, no amount of choice will ever avoid these evens, sure the choices made post could affect its outcome but it wont change it. I think that's what Bioware tried, something are just unavoidable and/or inevitable. [/Spoilers]

shadowfox said:
Movies next.

The amount of self-entitlement inherent in this whole movement stuns me. When did the gaming community drop to this level?

Wait ... nevermind ... don't answer that.
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Worst part is it isn't the casual crowd that is regularly blamed for the drop in gaming, its the fucking core gamers.
 
If you want your own ending, read a 'Choose Your Own Adventure' book.

Bioware should tell these whiny, self-entitled brats to shove it.
 
Dan said:
If you want your own ending, read a 'Choose Your Own Adventure' book.

Bioware should tell these whiny, self-entitled brats to shove it.
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Could not agree more.

Its a set story, your choices may change aspects of the arch but the ball has left the cannon and it will hit something.
 
Nope, but I've hated many a ending to various forms of entertainment and never did it cross my mind to petition that they give me a new better ending. Looking at you LOST...
 
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I haven't yet, so no bitching from me.

However, even if I'm horribly disappointed by it, I'll just eject the disc, uninstall the game, and get on with my life. I see absolutely no reason to harass a developer because my unreasonable standards weren't met.
 
Dan said:
I haven't yet, so no bitching from me.

However, even if I'm horribly disappointed by it, I'll just eject the disc, uninstall the game, and get on with my life. I see absolutely no reason to harass a developer because my unreasonable standards weren't met.
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Agreed - trying to get your way by pestering the developers isn't my idea of time well spent. Nor do I expect it to yield any fruit.

But I totally understand the feeling behind it.
 
qornea said:
Just a question: has anyone here -actually- finished it?
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Nope, but I feel thats beyond the point. the point being the act of people actually demanding a new ending to a story.
Regardless if its a good/bad ending. We made choices in KOTOR and while we got a good/bad ending it didn't change the over all story. The player didn't suddenly stop being Revan or whatever. Its like that in every RPG, you make choices and while it changes aspects of the narrative it never changes the out come of the ending completely. The amount of variables to make that even feasible, especially for a game with so many meaningful decisions its mind boggling.
 
qornea said:
Agreed - trying to get your way by pestering the developers isn't my idea of time well spent. Nor do I expect it to yield any fruit.

But I totally understand the feeling behind it.
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Fortunately for everyone disappointment is part of life.
 
qornea said:
Agreed - trying to get your way by pestering the developers isn't my idea of time well spent. Nor do I expect it to yield any fruit.

But I totally understand the feeling behind it.
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That's the particular point I think most of us took issue with. Whether we've actually played the game or not is entirely irrelevant. Maybe we'll also be pissed when we get to the end. But demanding a new ending? Do they have any concept of how much work would have to go into that?

And given the fact that Bioware is a business, and not a charity, someone's going to have to pay for it.
 
OmegaFenix said:
Nope, but I feel thats beyond the point. the point being the act of people actually demanding a new ending to a story.
Regardless if its a good/bad ending. We made choices in KOTOR and while we got a good/bad ending it didn't change the over all story. The player didn't suddenly stop being Revan or whatever. Its like that in every RPG, you make choices and while it changes aspects of the narrative it never changes the out come of the ending completely. The amount of variables to make that even feasible, especially for a game with so many meaningful decisions its mind boggling.
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We agree that demanding the ending you want is retarded.

However, you haven't finished the game. So you don't know exactly -why- the demand for one is so great. It's relevant, and definitely not beyond the point.

For me at least, like I said, it's not about a good or bad ending. You'll see. I'm out of this discussion now.
 
shadowfox said:
That's the particular point I think most of us took issue with. Whether we've actually played the game or not is entirely irrelevant. Maybe we'll also be pissed when we get to the end. But demanding a new ending? Do they have any concept of how much work would have to go into that?

And given the fact that Bioware is a business, and not a charity, someone's going to have to pay for it.
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Enter... Happy Ending DLC - 1200 MSpoints or $10. That way only the whiners who want it get it, the rest of us save money and Bioware makes some. I love capitalism.
 
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