New SA law will make it illegal for parents to spank their children at home

Screw this ANC ruled government. I will let my kids know what a clothesbrush can REALLY do. Just like I knew from my mom. And I never feared her, I feared the consequences of what would happen if I disobeyed my parents.

By spanking your children you are letting them learn that certain actions have consequences that they may not like. It's an important life lesson. The reason why we have a lawless youth generation on our hands is because parents didn't have the balls to teach their kids this important lesson. Now they're "banning" parents from teaching their kids this lesson? This country is an absolute pile of garbage. I can't wait to raise my kids in Canada and watch this piece of crap burn to the ground!
 
Wyzak said:
And what happens if that fails? If you plead to the better nature of your kid and he learns to ignore you because there are no further consequences?
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I'm not saying there shouldn't be consequences, I'm saying that the punishment does not necessarily have to be corporal. As an example, my boss is an extremely "hippy" parent who never even shouts at her kids, never mind takes a hand to them; they're punished in far more creative ways. Surprisingly, I've never seen two more well-behaved, well-adjusted five-year olds in my life. On the flip side though, I have a mollycoddled cousin who's an awful terrorist of a child. Go figure.

I think it depends on the individual family and its culture and values, plus the age of the kids, and a whole bunch of other factors. And who knows, I may lose my shit with my kid one day and decide on the spot that the best course of action is indeed a klap; again, not something I can decide until I actually have said kid. However, my own personal approach will always be respect first.

Should that fail though, can I pop round your place to borrow a wooden spoon? :D
 
Dan said:
I'm not saying there shouldn't be consequences, I'm saying that the punishment does not necessarily have to be corporal. As an example, my boss is an extremely "hippy" parent who never even shouts at her kids, never mind takes a hand to them; they're punished in far more creative ways. Surprisingly, I've never seen two more well-behaved, well-adjusted five-year olds in my life. On the flip side though, I have a mollycoddled cousin who's an awful terrorist of a child. Go figure.

I think it depends on the individual family and its culture and values, plus the age of the kids, and a whole bunch of other factors. And who knows, I may lose my shit with my kid one day and decide on the spot that the best course of action is indeed a klap; again, not something I can decide until I actually have said kid. However, my own personal approach will always be respect first.

Should that fail though, can I pop round your place to borrow a wooden spoon? :D
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Hehe, will see when I have children of my own. Until then the government should really stop sticking their noses in something that they have no say over. I like the comments on the article where people said they would drop off their kids at a government dept for a few days and see how they sort them out.
 
Ag i grew up on a farm so the only punishment that meant anything was a hiding.

I did not get pocket money.

The farm was far from any town or school so grounding me would not be a punishment.
As i'm the youngest of 4 boys, by the time I was in Gr2 my brothers was either in Uni. or Worked or in High School, so i grew up alone anyway.

but the one thing that kept inline was.... ons seekoei sambok.

It helps you remember to NEVER do that sh!t again.

I respect my parents, I was never disciplined if I did not deserve it. I deserved it a few times :)
 
I got the belt many, many times. I still remember my mom and grandma holding me down to whip my ass. Of course they hit lightly, but the whole affair of getting hit on the bum made me cry hard. Not because of the pain, but of knowing that what I did was wrong ( mostly climbing up the cupboard and stealing sweets ) . Afterwards we sat down and they explained to me why they whipped me. That is how a child should be disciplined.

Looking at some teenagers today, I still thank them for how I turned out to be.
 
This is pathetic, most of us were given hidings when we were kids and we all turned out reasonably fine, even the previous generations. Can't help but feel the person who thought up this idea to get it made ilegal was abused and doesn't want it to happen to somebody else but rather draw the line as to how far is too far
 
I think the best scenario is to bring up your kids in a way in which they will never require something like hitting them. There are many other effective measures one can take to discipline a child, you don't need to hit them.
 
As I've been saying for years, it's just not viable raising a child in this country anymore. For more than one reason, including shit like this. Or am I the only one that feels this way?
 
to0kenZA said:
As I've been saying for years, it's just not viable raising a child in this country anymore. For more than one reason, including shit like this. Or am I the only one that feels this way?
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As per my previous reply in this thread, I wholeheartedly agree with you.
 
Draegan said:
As per my previous reply in this thread, I wholeheartedly agree with you.
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Sorry, I didn't even read that far back, stupid of me. I just saw the title and immediately shit the bed. I'm getting so tired of the monkeys running this country. Some days it feels like there's no good reason to stay here anymore. Most of my friends are already making plans to leave if they have not already or at least have a backup plan in the pipeline. Such a sad state of affairs.
 
to0kenZA said:
As I've been saying for years, it's just not viable raising a child in this country anymore. For more than one reason, including shit like this. Or am I the only one that feels this way?
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I got the belt and I grew up fine.

I think it's to protect some people that take it too far. I work in retail and we caught a 5 year old stealing, called the mother over then we had to call security because she had punched him one shot onto the floor and was ready to have another go. It took 4 people to calm her down, I felt bad for the kid.

Seriously, there's a smack as a disciplinary warning and punishment (getting a belt across the ass), then there is abuse like above.
 
Glordit said:
I got the belt and I grew up fine.

I think it's to protect some people that take it too far. I work in retail and we caught a 5 year old stealing, called the mother over then we had to call security because she had punched him one shot onto the floor and was ready to have another go. It took 4 people to calm her down, I felt bad for the kid.

Seriously, there's a smack as a disciplinary warning and punishment (getting a belt across the ass), then there is abuse like above.
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I still don't see how this law will protect the child from abuse ( other than giving children smacks at home...smacks not pure abuse). Child abuse is rife in this country but people would have reported people children before this law.
 
korn1 said:
Anyone else have a few wooden spoons broken on them? :D
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Nope. Never been clouted with a wooden spoon. But I have had several canes used in vain attempt to snap my will, the top of a t-square, a lamb-squasher (place hands on left and right door post looking out of classroom, take a flat hand between shoulder blades when least expected and go cart-wheeling out of class), ruler (plastic and wooden), slipper, belt, shoe, more flat hand, etc, etc.

In national service it was 25 kg concrete block, various and several different kind of leaves on other side of parade ground (some 800m away), multiple 2.4km runs, push-ups, bush smarties (anti-malaria tablets; multiples), roofie rides in back of bakkie at ungodly speeds, more running, more op-voks than I care to recall, more bush smarties, etc, etc.

And I am not a serial killer, terrorist, mass murderer, stalker or anything similar.

There is a time and place for everything, but this is just plain ludicrous. If I was considering kids and government started motions to introduce this, I would simply give it up, sterilise myself or lop it off so there was never a chance of kids.

My kids get put in "time-out", get certain pleasures taken away and all sorts of inventive ways of highlighting the error of their ways, but there is a time and place for a smack on the bum. It's never over the top or much more than one klap to the rump. It's not every day or week, but when appropriate. But making this a law is just plain doff.
 
korn1 said:
I still don't see how this law will protect the child from abuse ( other than giving children smacks at home...smacks not pure abuse). Child abuse is rife in this country but people would have reported people children before this law.
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People who abuse children will not be deterred by the introduction of such a law. What it may create though is an awareness for those children who are abused that it is not okay to be abused as they are and perhaps they might speak out about their situation. For them, maybe, this might be relevant and a blessing in disguise. Thoughts?
 
and the stupidity train keeps on chugging along Choo Choo!

shafugup and run the country not our lives you useless sacks of shit
 
chiming in late here, but i totally believe in "actions and consequences". when i was a laaitie and did something wrong, i knew i was going to be punished. the severity of the punishment was directly related to the severity of the transgression. this often included being spanked. not once did i ever feel like the spanking i got was not deserved.

as i grew older i did less things wrong for fear of punishment. this taught me values that i feel a lot of youngsters (and by now, older people) are sorely missing. every action has consequences - think about those consequences before you perform the actions.
 
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