new to higher graphic cards specs PROBLEM

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gsbr

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I am trying to install a ASUS GTX 460 CU on a MSI 790XT G45 (with AMD quad)
IT ONLY HAS 450 POWER SUPPLY
The card is not recognized
I have connected the auxillary plug to power

Could it be that the GPU senses that the voltage is marginal and refuse to start ???
I have ordered a 750 watts hoping it will fix the problem
If it does not what other alternative short of the card faulty ???
 
yes it sounds like insufficient power to me, other guys might have better insight but the bigger psu is never a bad investment
 
One of my buddies got a new card which only worked after he installed new windows. It simply wouldn't pick up on XP... (not sure what you are running atm, just adding my 2 cents)
 
Depends what you mean that the card is not recognized. Do you get display at all on boot up with it? If not, then you might need a BIOS update.

If you are getting display, but you can't load drivers, then possibly a power issue.
 
Sounds like a power issue dude. I think your CPU needs at least about 200 - 250 Watt by itself. A modern day GPU would use about the same amount. So that's already too little power, without even considering your motherboard, hard-drives and everything else. Definitely a power issue.
 
gsbr said:
I am trying to install a ASUS GTX 460 CU on a MSI 790XT G45 (with AMD quad)
IT ONLY HAS 450 POWER SUPPLY
The card is not recognized
I have connected the auxillary plug to power

Could it be that the GPU senses that the voltage is marginal and refuse to start ???
I have ordered a 750 watts hoping it will fix the problem
If it does not what other alternative short of the card faulty ???
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Please explain what you mean by "the card is not recognized"? Does you PC boot into windows or do have a blank screen?
 
THANKS FOR THE ANSWERS CHAPS !

wINDOWS vISTA 64
Booting exactly as if there was no card
And the "beeps" complain about it

There is no display at all so I cannot say if windows boots
Also the card does not get warm ,the fan runs.
It is the reason that made me think it is the GPU booting that senses a voltage too low as the load is drawn
and then it switches off the on card regulators
 
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Also the card does not get warm ,the fan runs.
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Althoug its the most obvious yet overlooked question. Have you set the PCIe slot to be selected as the primary display?

Easy way to tell, plug the monitor into your onboard GPU, if you get display then make sure to check what the preference for GPU display is, the fan runs, means its getting power, may not be enough though, but it shoudl technically still boot, just wont run very well in-game cause of less power. If you have set PCIe as the primary display for GPU, then its probably the power supply, 450w isnt enough anyway if your planning on running games
 
There was a Nvidia Geforce 9500 GT 1.00 Gb before
I had to change it to run IL2 C o D
I had to put it back to run
It is working perfecly for IL2 and all the mods
So I'll wait for the power supply
Thank you all for your kind help
 
gsbr said:
There was a Nvidia Geforce 9500 GT 1.00 Gb before
I had to change it to run IL2 C o D
I had to put it back to run
It is working perfecly for IL2 and all the mods
So I'll wait for the power supply
Thank you all for your kind help
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Hope it comes right, let us know :)
 
It was not that
It was the card after the bad service of Rampage Gaming
that did not answer my queries about the card not working
nor told me that the supply I ordered was an outsize one
So after 3500 rand spent I have a power supply sitting in a cut-out
with a card that never worked and now this awfull set up want me to pay for the returning of a dud buy
If they had replied earlier I would not have the extra supply
and I would most probably have paid for the return ,but now frankly I do not even trust them to return the card
I will try the manufacturer s' site to see if they are more helpfull
I have ordered from ANOTHER place ANOTHER make of CARD

From Wootware paid at 15 30
shipped on 16 00
Already on the internet tracking of Fedex
If Fedex works on saterdays I' ll get it to morrow
That sure is a BIG DIFFERENCE with the other place
I ' ll give them 5 stars
 
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I also have a problem with my GTX460 as a dedicated physx card. Definatly got enough power maybe could be a sriver issue. Does anyone know where i can get the big drivers pack for Nvidia?
 
frank007
I have contacted Asus importers for tech and other problems
Took me 2 days to find them,i sent an Email today probaly (hopefully) resp on monday
 
ogbuzz finally
and others
IT MIGHT HELP SOMEBOBY to avoid a SAD story
First I must thank all of you for your queries and advises
The basics are simple....really
It comes to having chosen a MONEY(ONLY) MINDED "SPECIALIST"
I bought a card from RAMPAGE GAMING
the service was terribly fast ,but as I was to find out shortly ONLY WHEN IT RELATED to getting my money

What I have described occured and I let it know to the supplier that only acknowledged me when I ordered ,ASKING also for ADVISE
about the problem
Ordered a 700 watts supply ,Directly was advised that it was not available
I changed to a supply that was to be found later to be an OUTSIZED one (no WARNING from the super supplier)
Installed it and NO GO
I was told to send back at my expenses,after asking the super guru address from the site(NO ANSWER)
AT my expenses without any sympathy
I could have sent to an UNHELPFULL place without any result...
So I got through to ASUS South Africa
Sent the card
Was tested found OK but was replaced by a VERY HELPFULL chap called ALEX
Retried NO GO
A further Email to ALEX got at last the solution

There are 2 plugs for the extra supply(the card from WootWare had only one plug)
and
THE 2 PLUGS MUST BE FED with a supply
Otherwise the card is not recognized

YES AS SIMPLE AS THAT

It boils to that for want of a helpfull and knowledgeable supplier it cost me
An extra card
TWO freights and a lot of grief and worries


THANK YOU RAMPAGE for the UNQUALIFIABLE MESS you leave me with

A the other hand I have had a lot of help from ASUS
and
WOOTWARE

I must also mention that my ORIGINAL 480 Watts power supply is working with the ASUS CARD

So recap of unwanted cost
Extra card +/- R 2200
POW supl R 1200
Freight R 200

Total loss R 3600
Thank you again RAMPAGE GAMING
 
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I wish to commend you for delivering your posts in free verse. I especially appreciated the symmetry of line lengths on the concluding stanza. Alan Ginsberg would be proud.

And yes you must have both 6-pin power plugs in for the card to be recognized. Could have saved yourself a lot of grief there if you'd just considered that they included them for a reason...
 
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jasong said:
I wish to commend you for delivering your posts in free verse. I especially appreciated the symmetry of line lengths on the concluding stanza. Alan Ginsberg would be proud.
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That made me laugh.

But yes, I'm glad that everything is working now gsbr.
 
Tangent said:
To piggyback on this the issue raised here, what would be the recommended ps for a gtx560
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The problem with power supply specifications on the box is that by and large they are a lot of marketing rubbish... If you have a budget for a supply, we can recommend you specific models to get based on it. A GTX560, or just about any single GPU card, will run on most decent supplies though so you're in safe territory...


GSBR my honest feeling on this one is that you don't know what you're doing, and you don't have anyone but yourself to blame for what went wrong. You could have sorted it out very easily from the beginning if you had simply not panicked and looked at the most obvious solution. You've been pointing fingers every which way, and I'm sorry but techies in shops are not magicians, they can't know that you've made the most remedial error imaginable... they don't have the time or patience to sit with you and walk through every possible permutation of stupid mistake you could have made.
 
I would suggest that if you are not certain of what you are doing on a pc then rather take it to an expert. And if you are going to do some DIY and something goes wrong, you can only blame the hardware for failure and not the people who sold it to you as you have taken full responsibility for the purchase, installation and operation of the device(s). I have had many a person purchase directly from me, thereby bypassing a lot reasons why one would purchase from me (service, advice, technical knowledge et al) and subsequently having a problem.

And if i understand correctly, you didn't need one of the 6-pins? That makes no difference to the power supply functioning as a lot of lower-end/middle cards only require one 6-pin. The only time i would blame rampage is if you were returning a faulty unit and they made you pay for returning it. Otherwise they are within their rights to charge you for the returning if you are just returning the stuff. Well, other than not getting back to you immediately.

I wish to commend you for delivering your posts in free verse. I especially appreciated the symmetry of line lengths on the concluding stanza. Alan Ginsberg would be proud.
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^good one :D
 
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