PS3 hackers claim the console is now definitely cracked

because no matter what these pieces of flith say, it always will and always has been about piracy.

and with this i pull out of this thread, it's going nowhere
 
OmegaFenix said:
agreed but if cracking it was motivated purely for the challenge of cracking it why then release the crack online?
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Who would believe them? This is, afterall, the internets. :)

Tank said:
because no matter what these pieces of flith say, it always will and always has been about piracy.

and with this i pull out of this thread, it's going nowhere
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I still don't get the hate, really don't. I totally understand it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but damn...... the hate is getting out of hand.

Wonder why people don't have the same hate with TV series or anime piracy. :confused:
 
Toxin said:
Who would believe them? This is, afterall, the internets. :)



I still don't get the hate, really don't. I totally understand it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but damn...... the hate is getting out of hand.

Wonder why people don't have the same hate with TV series or anime piracy. :confused:
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That is true i guess but still.

We're gamers. Had we been Kotaku im sure we would have the same hate for anime piracy.
 
Tank said:
because no matter what these pieces of flith say, it always will and always has been about piracy.

and with this i pull out of this thread, it's going nowhere
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Do you have any idea how lucrative the pirate mod market is? Why would they release it to the world if it was about piracy?

I know of no pirate mod organization that released details of their cracks, since that would take money away from them.
 
Etiko said:
Do you have any idea how lucrative the pirate mod market is? Why would they release it to the world if it was about piracy?

I know of no pirate mod organization that released details of their cracks, since that would take money away from them.
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So making money from illegal cracks is ok then.
 
OmegaFenix said:
agreed but if cracking it was motivated purely for the challenge of cracking it why then release the crack online? Why not simply send Sony an email say " I cracked it, better luck next time slug heads" or something. Why release it and give other accessed to piracy on the ps3.
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They wanted to give out a way to get low level access to re-enable the use of Linux to everyone interested. They haven't released any tools or keys to directly enable piracy, however its fairly easy for other groups to create tools and get those keys with the security flaws now exposed.

Even if they released nothing and simply mentioned that Sony uses the same random number in their keys, as they said, it becomes trivial to find out the private key.
 
Well, good I say! Now when the DARPA ,who runs their super computer using PS3s, has a malfunction and then they can repair it, install the crack and get it back into the computer node! Yay Linux!
 
The recent cracking of the PlayStation 3's previously watertight security measures could prove seriously problematic for Sony according to industry figures, with the console opening itself up for piracy on a similar scale to that seen on the PSP.

Sony's PlayStation 3 has been the subject of several hacks that bypass the console's security measures and that hackers claim can only be addressed with a hardware update. Sony has since responded by filing for restraining orders against the group fail0verflow and the prolific George Hotz among others.

"If that hack works as reported, I don't believe that Sony can regain any control," Ubisoft Massive's Martin Walfisz told gamesindustry.biz. "They could try to employ a similar system to Xbox Live, so that people running hacked systems won't have access to PSN. But Sony won't be able to stop people from running pirated game copies as long as the machines are not hooked up online."

Walfisz went on to claim that Sony's home console could be facing a problem more serious than that which has beset its handheld counterpart. "I would assume that pirated copies can be stored on the HDD as well," said Walfisz, "making it so easy to use that PS3 piracy, given time, might even surpass the handhelds."
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18 months ago, third-party PSP developers were "just about ready to jump off the cliff and pull support for the platform," says Sony's Peter Dille.

As part of an in-depth Gamasutra feature interview, Dille explained how the company's "evangelizing" since then to developers about going beyond the PlayStation 2 port to what kinds of games "make sense" on PSP has helped increase successful software on the platform.

The first fruits of these efforts are just beginning to hit the market in 2009, including Dissidia Final Fantasy, Assassin's Creed and Rock Band on PSP, and there are more to come, says Dille.

But as the PSP rebounds, piracy on the platform is still a major concern. "I'm convinced and we're convinced that piracy has taken out a big chunk of our software sales on PSP," Dille explains. "It's been a problem that the industry has to address together; it's one that I think the industry takes very seriously, but we need to do something to address this because it's criminal what's going on, quite frankly."

"It's not good for us, but it's not good for the development community. We can look at data from BitTorrent sites from the day Resistance: Retribution goes on sale and see how many copies are being downloaded illegally, and it's frankly sickening. We are spending a lot of time talking about how we can deal with that problem."

Hardware upgrades to the PSP have been speculated to be aimed in part at closing piracy 'loopholes,' although Sony has never disclosed the extent of the modifications. Even still, the fact that older versions of the hardware are fundamentally on the market complicates the situation -- even if there's a solution, there are 50 million potentially compromised units out there already.

"Those numbers are correct," says Dille. "There's a lot of hardware out there; toothpaste is out of the tube. We're not going to get that hardware back into the toothpaste container."

Dille says Sony's aiming for a "multi-pronged approach" factoring in both legal and education -- he believes that consumers could be convinced to pay for content "if they understood [that piracy] meant that a platform would go away."

"I'm not naive, but I do think that most people are inherently honest," he says. "We learned a lot from the music business, and it became so easy and so common to download illegal music -- everyone was doing it. It's almost like people lost sight with the fact that, well, "If everyone's doing it, then it can't be that bad."

"But, it actually is bad; it's bad for the platform. Again, I'm not saying that that's a magic wand; I think that we have to make sure from a technological perspective that it's not as easy as it is to do that."

The full interview with Dille on the state of Sony in 2009 is now available at Gamasutra (no registration required, please feel free to link to this feature from other websites).
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http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=23301

Say what you will about the intentions of these hackers. They have potentially done serious damage to the PS3.
 
http://www.ps3news.com/PS3-Hacks/electronic-frontier-foundation-reports-on-sony-geohot-ps3-case/


But the researchers don't seem to have used Sony's network in their research — they just used the consoles they bought with their own money. Simply put, Sony claims that it's illegal for users to access their own computers in a way that Sony doesn't like. Moreover, because the CFAA has criminal as well as civil penalties, Sony is actually saying that it's a crime for users to access their own computers in a way that Sony doesn't like.

That means Sony is sending another dangerous message: that it has rights in the computer it sells you even after you buy it, and therefore can decide whether your tinkering with that computer is legal or not. We disagree. Once you buy a computer, it's yours. It shouldn't be a crime for you to access your own computer, regardless of whether Sony or any other company likes what you're doing.
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What they don't get though is that they're not just giving people the ability to run Linux on the PS3 (Just get a PC you wankers!) but they have now made millions of other people unhappy. With all the programs out there that make you lag an such, people are getting turned off which dents PS3 sales. I was just playing UC2 the other day and the 'lag program' is already being used in it!!

What's ironic though, is that Sony said that the PS Move would extend the life of the PS3 for around 3 years. Now with this hack on the market I seriously think this has halved (If not more!) the life of the PS3.
 
Duke Dude said:
What they don't get though is that they're not just giving people the ability to run Linux on the PS3 (Just get a PC you wankers!) but they have now made millions of other people unhappy. With all the programs out there that make you lag an such, people are getting turned off which dents PS3 sales. I was just playing UC2 the other day and the 'lag program' is already being used in it!!

What's ironic though, is that Sony said that the PS Move would extend the life of the PS3 for around 3 years. Now with this hack on the market I seriously think this has halved (If not more!) the life of the PS3.
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Agreed, the hack just cause the world of chaos... Yes lots of people were holding off on buying the PS3 till it was hacked but this hack is not a good one in anysense. Like i mention in an earlier thread this really need to be nipped in the butt cause we might se the PSP curse coming for round two on the PS3. And that would be the end of new games on the console... Developers are not going to develop for a compromised console, and PS3 will be dead in the water... End of Sony in the Gaming worl maybe, unless they got a PS4 ready for mass production...
 
Duke Dude said:
What they don't get though is that they're not just giving people the ability to run Linux on the PS3 (Just get a PC you wankers!) but they have now made millions of other people unhappy. With all the programs out there that make you lag an such, people are getting turned off which dents PS3 sales. I was just playing UC2 the other day and the 'lag program' is already being used in it!!

What's ironic though, is that Sony said that the PS Move would extend the life of the PS3 for around 3 years. Now with this hack on the market I seriously think this has halved (If not more!) the life of the PS3.
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People wanted to run Linux because the PS3 is a cheap blade server. Eg, I could get more processing power out of 6 PS3s for 12K than I could if I were to build a PC and try and get the processing power out of multiple CPUs and GPUs. This is the exact same kind of logic that the Department of Defense in the USA used when they built a super computer out of PS3s. When they removed support for Linux, that sorta broke the supercomputer because when a PS3 broke and they had to send it in for repairs they would get back a PS3 that they couldn't use. Same applies to people who do home 3D rendering, be it for their job or home use.

Now, to prevent piracy I'm sure they could just make the games have to authenticate over the PSN, and if people do they get x amount of free points to spend. Some sort of reward for buying the game legally, will have a positive effect. As for cheating I'm sure that they could develop anti-cheating software that was in an update to prevent all of that.
 
To get the games will involve downloading files of between 30 and 60GB though right which is a bit of a big ask here in SA. Or can the PS3 be modified to read copied blu-ray discs now?
 
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