Secrecy bill PASSED

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Black Tuesday, goes down in History known as: The return of Apartheid!

Almost 14 years ago to the day, former president Nelson Mandela told journalists that press freedom would never be under threat in South Africa for as "long as the ANC is the majority party".

Article: http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=159336

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‘Secrecy bill’ passed in Parliament
National Assembly passes Protection of State Information Bill on ‘Black Tuesday’ despite strong opposition
WYNDHAM HARTLEY
Published: 2011/11/22 04:03:36 PM
CAPE TOWN — The African National Congress’s majority muscle was used to force the so-called "secrecy bill" through the National Assembly on Tuesday afternoon despite a nationwide protest and last-ditch appeals to MPs and to Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe to delay voting on the legislation.

The vote was carried in favour of the Protection of State Information Bill, passing by 229 votes to 107 with two abstentions. During declarations of vote, all opposition parties were opposed to the bill, leaving the ANC isolated in its support.

The public and press galleries as well as the opposition benches were filled with people dressed in black for what had been dubbed "Black Tuesday" by those who saw the bill as a blot on South Africa’s democracy.

When proceedings began, Democratic Alliance (DA) chief whip Watty Watson proposed that the voting on the bill be delayed and that it should be removed from the order paper.

The Inkatha Freedom Party (IFP), the Congress of the People, the African Christian Democratic Party, the Independent Democrats and the Freedom Front Plus all supported the motion, with only the ANC objecting to it.

When it was put to the vote, the ANC’s 65% majority saw the attempt to delay the passage of the bill fail.

IFP MP Mario Ambrosini mounted a further attempt to halt the process when he suggested that the bill was improperly before the House. It had been treated as an exclusive national competence when, in fact, it involved the provinces and should have been processed according to section 76 of the constitution, not section 75.

National Assembly speaker Max Sisulu disallowed Mr Ambrosini’s point and the voting proceeded.

Lindiwe Mazibuko, DA parliamentary leader, said: "If passed, this bill will unstitch the very fabric of our constitution. It will criminalise the freedoms that so many of our people fought for.

"What will you, the members on that side of the House, tell your grandchildren one day? I know you will tell them that you fought for freedom. But will you also tell them you helped to destroy it?" she said.

Ms Mazibuko added: "Because they will pay the price for your actions today. Let this weigh heavy on your conscience as you cast your vote."

The bill still has to be approved by the National Council of Provinces next year, where Ms Mazibuko said the DA would continue the fight for incisive amendments. If that process failed to produce a new version, she said she would petition President Jacob Zuma not to sign the bill but to send it back to Parliament.

"But if this bill is signed into law, I will lead an application to the Constitutional Court to have the act declared unconstitutional," she added.

OPPOSITION

Several political parties, many NGOs, the anti-bill lobby group Right2Know and the South African National Editors’ Forum had voiced their opposition to the bill being passed without a public-interest defence clause that would allow the media to report on matters it deemed of public importance.

Protests took place earlier on Tuesday in Johannesburg, Pretoria, Durban and Cape Town.

The National Press Club had asked people opposed to the bill to dress in black or wear a black ribbon or armband. It named the campaign "Black Tuesday", based on what is known as "Black Wednesday" — October 19 1977, when the apartheid government banned The World and Sunday World newspapers and Pro Veritas, a Christian publication, as well as almost 20 people and organisations associated with the black consciousness movement.

Yusuf Abramjee, chairman of the press club, said the day would mark the start of a dark time for freedom of speech, freedom of expression and media freedom.

Plein Street and other roads near the parliamentary precinct was awash with black by lunch time as hundreds of people opposed to the bill arrived to join a picket outside Parliament’s main entrance.

Almost all those taking part in the protest were dressed in black, and some had sealed their mouths with black tape.

Many carried posters, some of which read "Those who vote for the bill are criminals themselves", "We demand the right to know", "Black Tuesday" and "Censorship is the new black".

Protesters managed to lower the flags to half-mast on two of the four poles at the Plein Street entrance to the parliamentary complex before police officers intervened.

VOW TO CONTINUE

The fight against the bill will continue despite it being passed, people protesting against it in Durban said on Tuesday afternoon.

"Even if they pass the bill today, we will continue fighting against it," said Desmond D’sa, chairman of the South Durban Community Environmental Alliance, who was addressing about 100 people picketing against the Protection of State Information Bill at Durban City Hall.

Most people who attended the march were journalists carrying placards. One of the placards read: "Apartheid is back".

"We will also support other organisations to take this to the Constitutional Court," Mr D’sa said.

The pickets were also attended by university students and lecturers. Prof Keyan Tomaselli of the University of KwaZulu-Natal’s Centre for Communication, Media & Society said the protest was not a futile exercise. "When people raised concerns about the arms deal, people thought they were wasting their time. Look at what has happened."

Prof Tomaselli said the bill had serious implications for all South Africans. "It will affect every information sector. The researchers and educators will have to check the legislation constantly when they do their jobs."

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This is the way the world ends, Not with a bang but a whimper.

Or if you are Star Wars Enclined - " So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause"
 
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It definitely doesnt bode well for this country, but what annoys me almost just as much, is that I've seen many FB friends claiming that this is the end of SA and that they jumping ship. I really hate that mindset, as when one is faced with adversity one should stand boldly and fight against it rather than run away. I read one article today where the journalist was saying that this could be a good thing as it may unite free-thinking people and could help topple the ANC majority. Although I dont think there are too many free-thinking people that support ANC to be honest...
 
It definitely doesnt bode well for this country, but what annoys me almost just as much, is that I've seen many FB friends claiming that this is the end of SA and that they jumping ship. I really hate that mindset, as when one is faced with adversity one should stand boldly and fight against it rather than run away. I read one article today where the journalist was saying that this could be a good thing as it may unite free-thinking people and could help topple the ANC majority. Although I dont think there are too many free-thinking people that support ANC to be honest...

The sensible ones "Jumped Ship" a long time ago. If ever there is a majority that stands up to the ANC I will be happily proven wrong but until it actually happened I maintain that SA is fucked. I know old Julias has been suspended but I wonder how long before talk of Nationalization starts up again.

Maybe SA could use with some of these Anti-Goverment Protests that have been showing up in the middle-east.
 
The sensible ones "Jumped Ship" a long time ago. If ever there is a majority that stands up to the ANC I will be happily proven wrong but until it actually happened I maintain that SA is fucked. I know old Julias has been suspended but I wonder how long before talk of Nationalization starts up again.

Maybe SA could use with some of these Anti-Goverment Protests that have been showing up in the middle-east.
We'd rather wear black shirts right :rolleyes:
 
People whop opposed the bill wore black shirts today.

Ah... Well then Im opposing it aswell since I am wearing a black shirt.

It always amazes me that people will protest, block roads, burn tires, throw bricks at the smallest provocation but when something big does pop up they take this pacifist approach.
 
Ah... Well then Im opposing it aswell since I am wearing a black shirt.

It always amazes me that people will protest, block roads, burn tires, throw bricks at the smallest provocation but when something big does pop up they take this pacifist approach.
riddle me this: how is wearing a shirt going to make a change? Why aren't we all in streets like egpypt?

no we'd rather do the easiest non resist path to protest.

If we could we would have been sending black emails over black shirts, I mean that's even easier. Only way out under anc is either real mass action or Coup d'état.
 
riddle me this: how is wearing a shirt going to make a change? Why aren't we all in streets like egpypt?

no we'd rather do the easiest non resist path to protest.

If we could we would have been sending black emails over black shirts, I mean that's even easier. Only way out under anc is either real mass action or Coup d'état.

Agreed. Actions speak loader than words. Thats a really good question, why aren't you all out in the streets?
 
Its a sad day today ..
No good can come of a law that stops the media from shedding light on an already extremely corrupt government ..
the next thing that can happen is the ANC raiding my house for me saying anything against the government ,
like they do in North Korea , then they censor all media and ban what cant be censored ..

Its a sad day for this country.
 
South Africa MPs pass controversial 'secrecy bill'

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The ANC denies that the law is designed to muzzle the press

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South African MPs have overwhelmingly approved a controversial media bill despite widespread criticism of it.
Nobel Peace laureate Archbishop Desmond Tutu called it "insulting" and warned it could be used to outlaw "whistle-blowing and investigative journalism".
South African journalists wearing black have staged a protest against the so-called "secrecy bill" outside the headquarters of the governing ANC.
The ANC says the law will safeguard state secrets and national security.
The African National Congress has a two-thirds majority in 400-seat National Assembly - the bill passed by 229 votes to 107, with two MPs choosing not to vote.
The bill has still to be passed by the upper house - likely to happen next year - and signed by the president before becoming law.
The office of Nelson Mandela, South Africa's first post-apartheid president and also a Nobel peace laureate, also has expressed reservations about the bill.
The Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory said the bill failed to strike a balance between free speech and protecting legitimate state secrets.
The main opposition Democratic Alliance told parliament that it would petition the Constitutional Court to have the bill declared unconstitutional if the president signed it in its current form.
Continue reading the main storyWhat is in the 'secrecy bill'?

  • The bill would give the state the power to classify documents as secret in the "national interest"
  • "National interest" defined very broadly, critics say, and could include reports about government corruption and human rights abuses
  • Jail terms of up to 25 years for anyone in possession of classified documents or harbouring state secrets
  • No public interest clause
  • Citizens and journalists treated as foreign spies if found in possession of information deemed a state secret
For the court to hear the matter, 134 MPs need to sign the petition - which correspondents say seems likely to happen as the combined number of opposition party MPs is 136.
Although some elements have been watered down, the Protection of State Information Bill still proposes tough sentences of up to 25 years for anyone possessing classified government documents, with no defence of acting in the public interest.
The BBC's Karen Allen says the bill's critics see it as an assault on a vigorous media, which has drawn attention to allegations of corruption by senior ANC officials.
President Jacob Zuma's spokesman Mac Maharaj has recently filed a lawsuit against South Africa's Mail and Guardian newspaper - preventing it from publishing information linking him to a controversial arms 1999 deal.
The South African media broke the story using secret documents, but under the new law, journalists and their editors could face stiff jail sentences for similar disclosures, correspondents say.
Secrecy 'saves lives'On the eve of the vote, Archbishop Tutu appealed to lawmakers not to approve the bill.
He said it was "insulting to all South Africans to be asked to stomach legislation that could be used to outlaw whistle-blowing and investigative journalism... and that makes the state answerable only to the state".
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Archbishop Tutu won a Nobel Peace Prize for his opposition to white minority rule

South African Nobel prize-winning author Nadine Gordimer has also condemned the bill, which she said was taking South Africa back to the years of white minority rule, the Johannesburg-based Times Live news site reports.
The bill was "totally against" freedom, she said.
"The corrupt practices and nepotism that they [politicians] allow themselves is exposed if we have freedom of expression," Ms Gordimer is quoted as saying.
South Africa's National Press Club (NPC) - backed by the Right2Know campaign group - called on people to wear black and dubbed the day of the vote "Black Tuesday" in a reference to apartheid-era press restrictions.
A few hundred people gathered outside parliament carrying placards - some were dressed in black, others had tape over their mouths.
Elsewhere, some 200 people protested outside Luthuli House, the ANC headquarters in central Johannesburg, and others gathered in Soweto at the site to remember Hector Pieterson, the youngest victim of the 1976 student uprising against apartheid.
All major newspaper have published editorials condemning the proposed measures.
The ANC has rejected the criticism of the bill, saying it meets international standards and secrecy is sometimes needed to save lives.
"You cannot compare the situation that existed under the draconian and inhumane apartheid [regime] with legislation proposed by a democratic parliament elected by a majority of the people of South Africa," said chief whip Mathole Motshega.
South Africa's restrictive media laws were overturned when it became a democracy in 1994.
Archbishop Tutu won a Nobel Peace Prize for his opposition to white minority rule but has recently become a vocal critic of the ANC government.

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This entire thing makes me think of one phrase: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
 
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