Star Wars headed for Blu ray!

[Necuno]

Well considering is was George's story to tell maybe people should stop critisizing and appreciate the story being told the way the man who created it wanted to tell it.

When was the last time you created something loved by generation of geeks?

what is kak is mr lucas going from using method A (for example keeping the force a mystery on the original stories as per his inspiration on some eastern flicks) and all of a sudden changing into method B (example now all of sudden the force is some sort of co-op parasitical thing in-side persons, which i would bet does not match up with pre jedi history as well.) in the new 3 flicks were as star wars just became another coke-pop-culture-holywood-flick. and btw lucas used to hate and avoid what he now has become actually.

Well sorry but I hated the new trilogy.

because his changed magically to the average joe for his later additions. in all correctness ep 1 - 3 should rather have been done by someone else like good olde PJ.

 

[Tsar]

what is kak is mr lucas going from using method A (for example keeping the force a mystery on the original stories as per his inspiration on some eastern flicks) and all of a sudden changing into method B (example now all of sudden the force is some sort of co-op parasitical thing in-side persons, which i would bet does not match up with pre jedi history as well.) in the new 3 flicks were as star wars just became another coke-pop-culture-holywood-flick. and btw lucas used to hate and avoid what he now has become actually. because his changed magically to the average joe for his later additions. in all correctness ep 1 - 3 should rather have been done by someone else like good olde PJ.

That is true Necuno. Look what he did to Indiana Jones. He ruined it

 

[OmegaFenix]

Well sorry but I hated the new trilogy.

Too many people enjoy the critizise the new trilogy saying that Lucas had too much to do with it. It was his story, he wrote it, he created the universe why should he let someone else finish the story. Fact is too many fanbois are sour coz the new trilogy wasn't the star wars they would have made. Yes he may not be the worlds greatest cinematographer and some of the choices where less than brilliant but it remained his story to tell.

Ep 1 - 3 completed the original trilogy perfectly for the simple reason that it was lovingly created by the person who created the original with out any studio interference.

 

[Necuno]

all i can say is go get his bio, read secret history of starwars and go look at few comics in the era of the golden age of the sith. it's not about fanboi, it's not about die hards, it's not about we critizes to much. it is about facts and the facts is he pussyfooted a good story and probably raped the journal of wills (any decent sw fan should now what this is) to be "more inline" with today's "coke-pop-cultre".

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[Tsar]

all i can say is go get his bio, read secret history of starwars and go look at few comics in the era of the golden age of the sith. it's not about fanboi, it's not about die hards, it's not about we critizes to much. it is about facts and the facts is he pussyfooted a good story and probably raped the journal of wills (any decent sw fan should now what this is) to be "more inline" with today's "coke-pop-cultre".

Agreed dude.

 

[Necuno]

look it's not that i hate, despise and pray to satan when i look at ep 1 -3. they have their place, but they just don't fit as the original prescribed clone wars and how vader fell coming from the original canon and movies presented as well as weighing up luca's original ideas and mythos. this doesn't necessarily made them bad flick, not just "fit" that's all. i mean seriously the latest clone wars was totally off and so 'child comey' it's not even funny...

 

[OmegaFenix]

what is kak is mr lucas going from using method A (for example keeping the force a mystery on the original stories as per his inspiration on some eastern flicks) and all of a sudden changing into method B (example now all of sudden the force is some sort of co-op parasitical thing in-side persons, which i would bet does not match up with pre jedi history as well.) in the new 3 flicks were as star wars just became another coke-pop-culture-holywood-flick. and btw lucas used to hate and avoid what he now has become actually. because his changed magically to the average joe for his later additions. in all correctness ep 1 - 3 should rather have been done by someone else like good olde PJ.

Im not going to get into heated fanboi debate about this, Since Lucas created the universe he has free range to do with it what ever he want. In the original the Force is never explained, it is assumed to be a spiritual thing, where as in Ep 1 - 3 its biological but i see no reason why the spiritual should not have a physical manifistation.

 

[Tsar]

My only really gripe was that he used too much cgi. And the lightsaber battles were a little drown out.

 

[OmegaFenix]

My only really gripe was that he used too much cgi. And the lightsaber battles were a little drown out.

Its the 21st fucking century, would perfer he used the same effects as in the original.... Now that is the stupitist argument for not liking Ep 1-3 ive ever heard, Necuno's i can still pathom but this.... Sorry.

If anything the lightsaber battles where to differnt to those, reserved, clashes in the original.

 

[Tsar]

No, dude. When you over use cgi it looses its magic. IT was sterile and had no character. He crammed to much stuff in.

 

[Necuno]

My only really gripe was that he used too much cgi. And the lightsaber battles were a little drown out.

Its the 21st fucking century, would perfer he used the same effects as in the original.... Now that is the stupitist argument for not liking Ep 1-3 ive ever heard, Necuno's i can still pathom but this.... Sorry.

If anything the lightsaber battles where to differnt to those, reserved, clashes in the original.

one thing you can say about mr lucas, is that he at least pressed for digital cameras/technology ( this now for ep 1 - 3 ) and before that he literally made the sfx work for the original sw. this is one thing we can be thankful, i would say that flicks like avatar can gief a little thanks here to mr lucas imho.

however one should mix your technologies correctly. too much digitization has it's pitfulls, but also it provide a great platform for your ideas. i do agree that we could have gotten some "kung fu" on the light saber as it was promising in ep 1, but then i would also think that it became more "choppy" to fit in with the originals.

personally i would have liked better force power representation like in golden age of the sith, rise of the sith and fall of the sith empire ( i think the last one is called ) over just some push, pull, choke and lighting.

in the end, the sw zealot in me says nay to the new sw and yay to the old ones as well as the mentioned comics from dark house. i would really prescribe them if you can, they are now available as omnibus.

http://www.take2.co.za/books-star-wars-omnibus-tales-of-the-jedi-1-paperback-2692116.html
http://www.take2.co.za/books-star-wars-omnibus-tales-of-the-jedi-2-paperback-3348838.html

 

[OmegaFenix]

No, dude. When you over use cgi it looses its magic. IT was sterile and had no character.

It is set in a galaxcy far... far away creating half the set pieces without the level of CG use would have been a near imposible task. Imagine the courisant chance in Ep 2 or the final duel between Obi-Wan and Anikin on Mustafar with out it. Imagine half the alien races, such as the geonocians, midgets in suits rather than cg characters. Like the originals the new trilogy pushed visual effects into entire new avenues coz lucas had the ballz, and the money, to do it his way. If not for the likes of Ep 1 - 3 there might have been no Avatar (not that that would be a bad thing).

 

[powderbucket]

The old dude who appeared at the end of the Return of the Jedi was not the chap in the Vader suit. Putting Hayden in there gives the two trilogies a feeling of continuality.

I meant the chap we all see when Luke removes Vadar's helmet. He stands next to Yoda and Obi-Wan at the end no? I just don't like it that they shoved Hayden in there because it doesn't make sense that he would still look like a twenty-something year old. Besides, it kind of takes away the shock and surprise of seeing Vadar's real face at that particular time.

 

[OmegaFenix]

one thing you can say about mr lucas, is that he at least pressed for digital cameras/technology ( this now for ep 1 - 3 ) and before that he literally made the sfx work for the original sw. this is one thing we can be thankful, i would say that flicks like avatar can gief a little thanks here to mr lucas imho.

however one should mix your technologies correctly. too much digitization has it's pitfulls, but also it provide a great platform for your ideas. i do agree that we could have gotten some "kung fu" on the light saber as it was promising in ep 1, but then i would also think that it became more "choppy" to fit in with the originals.

personally i would have liked better force power representation like in golden age of the sith, rise of the sith and fall of the sith empire ( i think the last one is called ) over just some push, pull, choke and lighting.

in the end, the sw zealot in me says nay to the new sw and yay to the old ones as well as the mentioned comics from dark house. i would really prescribe them if you can, they are now available as omnibus.

http://www.take2.co.za/books-star-wars-omnibus-tales-of-the-jedi-1-paperback-2692116.html
http://www.take2.co.za/books-star-wars-omnibus-tales-of-the-jedi-2-paperback-3348838.html

I think they stuck to more traditional force powers to not alienate those who did not dive too deep into the comics and extended universe tales. Think about it, comapred to Starkiller (Force Unleashed) Luke is a giant wimp... but creating too powerful Jedi's in the new trilogy would cause continuality (SP) issues with the old since the old trilogy didn't have the tech to do what comics or novel or games could.

 

[Necuno]

it kind of takes away the shock and surprise of seeing Vadar's real face at that particular time.

exacto.......

 

[Tsar]

To be honest I did not enjoy avatar at all. I get what you are saying though. Maybe I am just being difficult.

 

[OmegaFenix]

I meant the chap we all see when Luke removes Vadar's helmet. He stands next to Yoda and Obi-Wan at the end no? I just don't like it that they shoved Hayden in there because it doesn't make sense that he would still look like a twenty-something year old. Besides, it kind of takes away the shock and surprise of seeing Vadar's real face at that particular time.

I think the force ghost might reflect the Good Anikin and since he went south looking like that they dropped all Hayden in there. it could also have been done simply to give a sense of continuality especially to people seeing it for the first time.

 

[powderbucket]

I think the force ghost might reflect the Good Anikin and since he went south looking like that they dropped all Hayden in there. it could also have been done simply to give a sense of continuality especially to people seeing it for the first time.

This is all true, but being somebody who grew up with star Wars, it was a little disappointing. Just my 2 cents

 

[OmegaFenix]

This is all true, but being somebody who grew up with star Wars, it was a little disappointing. Just my 2 cents

Having grown up with Star Wars it hardly notices and didn't feel strongly eitherway about it. But to each his own. Im sure the DVD's have the theatrical release on there in which the other dude and not Hayden appears, if not then im sure the Blu-Rays will feature multiple versions.

 

[tpex]

I love every single star wars movie.. even the animated one, they all have their magic, only 2 things piss me off, Jar Jar Binks and they cut the scene "Luke, I am your father"