SteamOS announced by Valve, a free operating system “available soon” for living room

Clive Woofer said:
We can safely say that will not happen in this lifetime. Valve would obviously want people to move over to SteamOS, but making HL3 SOS exclusive would a) be a dick move, b) put a sizable dent in their reputation and c) they would ensure that the majority of gamers cannot play their new game, thus negatively impacting their profits.

Seeing as Valve are neither assholes nor dumb, I highly doubt they would do something as dumb as make one of the most anticipated games of all time exclusive to a single OS.
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Of course no more than windows 8 being closed. be funny if that happens ;)
 
cmmackem said:
True but they will lose Windows being the PC gamers OS(Well it is the only) of choice.

Also windows uses a lot of your PC's resources with background tasks etc and limits any PC of their true potential. Imagine if SteamOS could eliminate all of that(They did mention it) , your FPS/performance could spike or even double.
That is one of the reasons that consoles can get okay FPS(30) on most games with the most ancient of hardware
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good point
 
And the controller!

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Judging from the FPS games I been playing on my Xperia Play, this controller can work for me. In fact I like 2 touchpads more than the stick controls on console controllers.
 
cmmackem said:
And the controller!
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Lol.... the "creators" of episodic gaming fails again to deliver the next episode. My ears still ring of how easy and how fast episodic games will make it for both the customers and developers. Failed model, failed announcement, failed delivery on these promises.
 
cmmackem said:
Also windows uses a lot of your PC's resources with background tasks etc and limits any PC of their true potential. Imagine if SteamOS could eliminate all of that(They did mention it) , your FPS/performance could spike or even double.
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Yes - though background tasks are not the issue.

Overheads however are a serious fckin issue. We're talking thousands upon thousands of triangles being drawn per second. So if your triangle drawing procedure has a bit more overheads then necessary then thats a serious problem. Sure there is all kinds of GFX witchcraft you can apply to reduce this (e.g. you can instruct the GFX card to copy paste a triangle 20 times)...but ultimately you've got a lot of API calls per second. This is also why "emulation" software requires so much flippin horsepower to emulate an ancient game (well other reasons too, but whatever).

A linux system won't get rid of the overhead but I think it'll be much much better. Read up on attempts to use windows for stock exchanges if you're interested in this. Hint: Windows and a million transactions per second don't go well together.
 
HavocXphere said:
Yes - though background tasks are not the issue.

Overheads however are a serious fckin issue. We're talking thousands upon thousands of triangles being drawn per second. So if your triangle drawing procedure has a bit more overheads then necessary then thats a serious problem. Sure there is all kinds of GFX witchcraft you can apply to reduce this (e.g. you can instruct the GFX card to copy paste a triangle 20 times)...but ultimately you've got a lot of API calls per second. This is also why "emulation" software requires so much flippin horsepower to emulate an ancient game (well other reasons too, but whatever).

A linux system won't get rid of the overhead but I think it'll be much much better. Read up on attempts to use windows for stock exchanges if you're interested in this. Hint: Windows and a million transactions per second don't go well together.
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BUT... this can be fixed by Mantle, or I hope so :D
 
Blind Faith said:
BUT... this can be fixed by Mantle, or I hope so :D
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You're a step ahead of me there. This is the first I hear of it.

I must admit I also don't quite follow how they got around the problem. Games will still be calling OGL api calls?!?

Still...I'm all for (as Clarkson says) MOAR POWER.

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Wesley said:
This is the truth. Hell, some stock exchanges are run completely on Linux and Java.
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Most afaik - though I've got a sneaky suspicion that there might be some custom rolled non-linux solutions out there too.

Now while I never went into that much detail - the Java thing does not ring true. I very much doubt the core infrastructure would run an interpreted language. Its what screwed over MS...they tried rolling .NET. Realistically for an application like this its ASM/C/C++ or GTFO. *Maybe* you could roll something like Pascal or similar but that would be mighty iffy.
 
Wesley said:
This is the truth. Hell, some stock exchanges are run completely on Linux and Java.
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Yes but that's also highly customised exclusively to run trades and update their data as it happens. They also will have an entire IT team dedicated to maintaining these machines, updating them and recoding the software as new companies are added, not really practical for home use.
 
Ike_009 said:
Yes but that's also highly customised exclusively to run trades and update their data as it happens. They also will have an entire IT team dedicated to maintaining these machines, updating them and recoding the software as new companies are added, not really practical for home use.
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Its not all about the team. The Windows OS can not handle the speeds. intreasting read on this is how Londen Stock Exchange Windows experiment failed http://blogs.computerworld.com/london_stock_exchange_to_abandon_failed_windows_platform

I use to work for a bank and we had a Unix system that took photo's and sorted cheques. We tried to go Windows in fact they even got to kernel devs from Microsoft out to try and get Microsoft OS to do the same. It never worked, Linux did it without even a hiccup. Also know personally of other implementations at a German co that manufacture medical equipment (Also a Microsoft house) that just could not get Microsoft to handle High volume calculations.

Face it, Windows just can not handle high number of low time transactions even if you add a huge team behind it (Including Kernel devs).

Oh and you know where Linux score? That same huge teams that work at the Stock Exchanges, push their code upstream so it even find homes on your desktop and yes SteamOS.

Anyway if you really interested check out http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9219204/How_Linux_mastered_Wall_Street?pageNumber=1
 
Ike_009 said:
You missed my point, your example still isn't applicable to home use in the living room.
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I think you're actually the one who missed the point here, no offence. Nobody wants to run stocktrading applications in their home, but Linux is simply better for handling millions of calculations than Windows is, thus it will also be better for gaming.
 
HavocXphere said:
You're a step ahead of me there. This is the first I hear of it.

I must admit I also don't quite follow how they got around the problem. Games will still be calling OGL api calls?!?

Still...I'm all for (as Clarkson says) MOAR POWER.

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Most afaik - though I've got a sneaky suspicion that there might be some custom rolled non-linux solutions out there too.

Now while I never went into that much detail - the Java thing does not ring true. I very much doubt the core infrastructure would run an interpreted language. Its what screwed over MS...they tried rolling .NET. Realistically for an application like this its ASM/C/C++ or GTFO. *Maybe* you could roll something like Pascal or similar but that would be mighty iffy.
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Java hasn't been an interpreted language for the last 10 years. Twitter runs on JAVA, most notable the twitter search engine.
 
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