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News round-up from the week
By Balazs Szabo on 11 Feb 2017, 20:00
Sebastian Vettel started its 2017 season in a rather bad way, Renault won't announce a new team principal despite the departure of Frederic Vasseur, teams are announcing the presentation dates of their 2017 cars, Fernando Alonso will bring McLaren's new car onto the track for the first time, more teams changed their fuel supplier.
Sebastian Vettel’s season didn’t get off in the best way
Scuderia Ferrari completed a testing programme on home soil in Fiorano this week. The Italian marque put focus on Pirelli’s rain tyres. F1’s sole tyre manufacturer wanted to test the behaviour of its new product which also grew in its width such its dry weather tyres. The main priority was to check the warming-up process of the new tyres.
Ferrari prepared its ‘mule’ 2015 machinery which mimics the downforce level expected in the new campaign. The Fiorano test track was artificially soaked with water. The work was curtailed when Sebastian Vettel lost control over his car.
Pirelli said the incident was a normal accident which happened because of the very low temperatures. Sebastian Vettel sustained only minor bruises.
More F1 teams announced the launch date of their 2017 cars
As the clock ticks down, F1 teams are working ceaselessly to complete the assembly of their cars which will roll to the track for the first time on 27 February in Barcelona.
Sauber will launch its new machinery on 20th February, Renault follows the Swiss team the day after, Force India will hold its presentation on 22th February. Mercedes unveils its 2017 title challenger on 23th February in Silverstone and will give the new car its track debut on the same day. Ferrari presents the successor of the SF-16H on 24th February in Fiorano. McLaren chose the same day for the presentation as its Italian rival. Haas and Toro Rosso will present its new machineries on 26th Feburary, a day before the official winter testing kicks off near Montmelo.
Renault won’t replace departing Vasseur
Renault recently announced that it parts ways with its team principal Frederic Vasseur. The announcement came after a rather difficult year for Renault which was its return year as a works team. The French manufacturer’s cars rarely survived the first qualifying segment.
Vasseur left the squad amid speculation of management dispute. The managing director Cyril Abiteboul claimed that Renault won’t nominate a new team boss as its current management structure is so strong that it doesn’t need to fill the position. He keeps his position and will attend the meetings of team principals. Alan Permane and Ciaron Pilbeam will remain on the pitwall and fulfil their tasks.
Fernando Alonso to debut McLaren-Honda’s new challenger
McLaren announced that Fernando Alonso will give its new car the track debut later this month when the winter testing period begins on February 27 in Barcelona.
McLaren-Honda finds itself in a period of change once again. Long-time team principal and McLaren’s shareholder Ron Dennis left the team amid speculation of dispute with major shareholder Mansour Ojjeh. Changes are also foreseen on the drivers’ side as Jenson Button left the squad after a seven-year period and his seat will be occupied by Belgian Stoffel Vandoorne. The company’s executive director is Zak Brown while Eric Boullier remains the F1’ team’s chief.
More teams replace their fuel supplier
More F1 teams parted company with their fuel supplier for the 2017 season. French works team Renault ended its long partnership with Total and will instead team up with British Petrol for fuel and with Castor for lubricant supplement. The French team last worked with BP and Castrol back in 1997 when the Williams-Renault team conquered both the drivers’ and the constructors’ title. The swap of oil and lubricant supplier or Renault means that Total leaves the Formula One for now.
McLaren’s long time partner Exxon/Mobil left the partnership with the traditional British team and joined Red Bull as its supplier. The energy drinks’ company’s contract means that the same Renault power unit will work with different fuels and lubricants. Renault announced that it will follow a single development path despite to the different fuel products.
Because of the collaboration of Red Bull and Exxon/Mobil, McLaren-Honda had to search for a new partner. From the 2017 season on British Petrol will be the Woking-based team’s partner such as Renault’s supplier.
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By Balazs Szabo on 11 Feb 2017, 20:00
Sebastian Vettel started its 2017 season in a rather bad way, Renault won't announce a new team principal despite the departure of Frederic Vasseur, teams are announcing the presentation dates of their 2017 cars, Fernando Alonso will bring McLaren's new car onto the track for the first time, more teams changed their fuel supplier.
Sebastian Vettel’s season didn’t get off in the best way
Scuderia Ferrari completed a testing programme on home soil in Fiorano this week. The Italian marque put focus on Pirelli’s rain tyres. F1’s sole tyre manufacturer wanted to test the behaviour of its new product which also grew in its width such its dry weather tyres. The main priority was to check the warming-up process of the new tyres.
Ferrari prepared its ‘mule’ 2015 machinery which mimics the downforce level expected in the new campaign. The Fiorano test track was artificially soaked with water. The work was curtailed when Sebastian Vettel lost control over his car.
Pirelli said the incident was a normal accident which happened because of the very low temperatures. Sebastian Vettel sustained only minor bruises.
More F1 teams announced the launch date of their 2017 cars
As the clock ticks down, F1 teams are working ceaselessly to complete the assembly of their cars which will roll to the track for the first time on 27 February in Barcelona.
Sauber will launch its new machinery on 20th February, Renault follows the Swiss team the day after, Force India will hold its presentation on 22th February. Mercedes unveils its 2017 title challenger on 23th February in Silverstone and will give the new car its track debut on the same day. Ferrari presents the successor of the SF-16H on 24th February in Fiorano. McLaren chose the same day for the presentation as its Italian rival. Haas and Toro Rosso will present its new machineries on 26th Feburary, a day before the official winter testing kicks off near Montmelo.
Renault won’t replace departing Vasseur
Renault recently announced that it parts ways with its team principal Frederic Vasseur. The announcement came after a rather difficult year for Renault which was its return year as a works team. The French manufacturer’s cars rarely survived the first qualifying segment.
Vasseur left the squad amid speculation of management dispute. The managing director Cyril Abiteboul claimed that Renault won’t nominate a new team boss as its current management structure is so strong that it doesn’t need to fill the position. He keeps his position and will attend the meetings of team principals. Alan Permane and Ciaron Pilbeam will remain on the pitwall and fulfil their tasks.
Fernando Alonso to debut McLaren-Honda’s new challenger
McLaren announced that Fernando Alonso will give its new car the track debut later this month when the winter testing period begins on February 27 in Barcelona.
McLaren-Honda finds itself in a period of change once again. Long-time team principal and McLaren’s shareholder Ron Dennis left the team amid speculation of dispute with major shareholder Mansour Ojjeh. Changes are also foreseen on the drivers’ side as Jenson Button left the squad after a seven-year period and his seat will be occupied by Belgian Stoffel Vandoorne. The company’s executive director is Zak Brown while Eric Boullier remains the F1’ team’s chief.
More teams replace their fuel supplier
More F1 teams parted company with their fuel supplier for the 2017 season. French works team Renault ended its long partnership with Total and will instead team up with British Petrol for fuel and with Castor for lubricant supplement. The French team last worked with BP and Castrol back in 1997 when the Williams-Renault team conquered both the drivers’ and the constructors’ title. The swap of oil and lubricant supplier or Renault means that Total leaves the Formula One for now.
McLaren’s long time partner Exxon/Mobil left the partnership with the traditional British team and joined Red Bull as its supplier. The energy drinks’ company’s contract means that the same Renault power unit will work with different fuels and lubricants. Renault announced that it will follow a single development path despite to the different fuel products.
Because of the collaboration of Red Bull and Exxon/Mobil, McLaren-Honda had to search for a new partner. From the 2017 season on British Petrol will be the Woking-based team’s partner such as Renault’s supplier.
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Wyvern
Khaleesi
Brawn clarifies the division of roles in the past-Ecclestone era
By Balazs Szabo on 30 Jan 2017, 10:00
Newly appointed FOM chief Ross Brawn clarified how the trio of Chase Carey, Sean Bratches and himself will take over the regime from the long-time F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone. The Briton admitted they still rely on Ecclestone’s advices.
On 24 January the news broke out that Bernie Ecclestone was deprived of his supreme role inside the Formula One Group which controls the commercial rights of the sport. That was a result of a long process and on Monday the last important piece of the puzzle was put in place. Liberty Media completed an important transaction of its take-over of the shares of the Formula One Group which gave them 35,5 per cent of the shares, and more importantly it provided them with the voting rights. The American media conglomerate was not keen on keeping Bernie Ecclestone on board and decided to part ways with the 86-year-old.
Ecclestone’s role has encompassed such a scope of duties that it has to be divided into three major directions.
Chase Carey was appointed chief executive officer and executive chairman of the Formula One Group. He will be responsible for the company with a more holistic view. Ross Brawn will fulfil duties for FOM and will bring his expertise into technical matters. Sean Bratches, the former ESPN’ chief will head the commercial department of the structure. Bratches will be also responsible for a new territory which Formula 1 has not really exploited yet. This is the sector of the social networks.
On contrary, there are tasks which will be managed by the trio together. Ross Brawn who was a key part of Ferrari’s last ultra-successful era and the reorganization of the current Mercedes team thinks there won’t be any clashes of interests and the trio will be able to work in harmony.
“We will make sure that our decision-taking processes and responsibilities are clearly structured. We can do more together as a sole person,†Brawn is quoted as saying by auto motor und sport.
“Modern F1 teams have a similar structure. There isn’t a single person who has everything in his hands. The pressure is divided on three, four or five shoulders. That was the same in my years at Mercedes.â€
Carey and Bratches will be responsible for the new contracts with the TV stations and promoters. Brawn promised that the trio will strive for improving the on-track side of the sport and giving more spectacles to the fans.
The Concorde Agreements, which controls the way the income is divided and the decision-making process, runs out in 2020. That means the trio’s hands are tied in many commercial matters until then. However, it does not mean that changes cannot be introduced in the near future.
“We are now evaluating where we want the sport to head in 2018 and 2019. I will create a group of specialists who will work out advices and ideas how we can make the sport better. Such a group does not exist at the moment. The teams concentrate too much on their own activities.â€
According to Brawn the number of GPs during a season will also be evaluated. This is a difficult question to answer as many factors are affected – including commercial, political and sporting ones. Teams have a certain budget that gives an upper bound. Adding further races to the calendar would mean that teams were forced to restructure their operation. Brawn thinks the most important factor in that question is the quality of GPs and not their number. It is important that a wide variety of circuits are involved in the calendar to give the fans the most entertainment.
Brawn praised the commitment of Bernie Ecclestone and the work the 86-year-old Briton did for the sport.
“He is an icon, a unique character. He is absolutely irreplaceable. That is why Formula 1 has been reorganized. I cannot image someone who could manage the sport in the way he did. F1 needed someone like him in his time. I can only hope that he attends a couple of races and continue to support us,†concluded Brawn.
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By Balazs Szabo on 30 Jan 2017, 10:00
Newly appointed FOM chief Ross Brawn clarified how the trio of Chase Carey, Sean Bratches and himself will take over the regime from the long-time F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone. The Briton admitted they still rely on Ecclestone’s advices.
On 24 January the news broke out that Bernie Ecclestone was deprived of his supreme role inside the Formula One Group which controls the commercial rights of the sport. That was a result of a long process and on Monday the last important piece of the puzzle was put in place. Liberty Media completed an important transaction of its take-over of the shares of the Formula One Group which gave them 35,5 per cent of the shares, and more importantly it provided them with the voting rights. The American media conglomerate was not keen on keeping Bernie Ecclestone on board and decided to part ways with the 86-year-old.
Ecclestone’s role has encompassed such a scope of duties that it has to be divided into three major directions.
Chase Carey was appointed chief executive officer and executive chairman of the Formula One Group. He will be responsible for the company with a more holistic view. Ross Brawn will fulfil duties for FOM and will bring his expertise into technical matters. Sean Bratches, the former ESPN’ chief will head the commercial department of the structure. Bratches will be also responsible for a new territory which Formula 1 has not really exploited yet. This is the sector of the social networks.
On contrary, there are tasks which will be managed by the trio together. Ross Brawn who was a key part of Ferrari’s last ultra-successful era and the reorganization of the current Mercedes team thinks there won’t be any clashes of interests and the trio will be able to work in harmony.
“We will make sure that our decision-taking processes and responsibilities are clearly structured. We can do more together as a sole person,†Brawn is quoted as saying by auto motor und sport.
“Modern F1 teams have a similar structure. There isn’t a single person who has everything in his hands. The pressure is divided on three, four or five shoulders. That was the same in my years at Mercedes.â€
Carey and Bratches will be responsible for the new contracts with the TV stations and promoters. Brawn promised that the trio will strive for improving the on-track side of the sport and giving more spectacles to the fans.
The Concorde Agreements, which controls the way the income is divided and the decision-making process, runs out in 2020. That means the trio’s hands are tied in many commercial matters until then. However, it does not mean that changes cannot be introduced in the near future.
“We are now evaluating where we want the sport to head in 2018 and 2019. I will create a group of specialists who will work out advices and ideas how we can make the sport better. Such a group does not exist at the moment. The teams concentrate too much on their own activities.â€
According to Brawn the number of GPs during a season will also be evaluated. This is a difficult question to answer as many factors are affected – including commercial, political and sporting ones. Teams have a certain budget that gives an upper bound. Adding further races to the calendar would mean that teams were forced to restructure their operation. Brawn thinks the most important factor in that question is the quality of GPs and not their number. It is important that a wide variety of circuits are involved in the calendar to give the fans the most entertainment.
Brawn praised the commitment of Bernie Ecclestone and the work the 86-year-old Briton did for the sport.
“He is an icon, a unique character. He is absolutely irreplaceable. That is why Formula 1 has been reorganized. I cannot image someone who could manage the sport in the way he did. F1 needed someone like him in his time. I can only hope that he attends a couple of races and continue to support us,†concluded Brawn.
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Wyvern
Khaleesi
Force India reveals the impact of the 2017 technical revamp
By Balazs Szabo on 14 Feb 2017, 15:00
Force India’s technical director Andy Green and the Silverstone-based team’s former German driver Nico Hülkenberg revealed what an impact the 2017 technical revamp can have on racing. Both promised that the new generation’s cars will be frighteningly quick.
F1 partly returns to its pre-2009 state in aerodynamic sense. That year brought a new set of aerodynamic rules which curtailed the aero devices around the car. Consequently the downforce levels dropped by an easily measurable amount.
Teams were therefore forced to use ‘big’, steep wings to retain the aerodynamic balance of the car. Teams used to use high-downforce wings even on circuits with long straight. Mercedes often used its Spa-specification rear wing in Monza.
With the introduction of the new aerodynamic regulation for 2017, downforce levels are expected to fly up by a significant amount. Engineers will have plenty of downforce on their hands to play with which will explode in the war for the wing which suits the demands of the given track the best.
Force India’s technical chief reckons his team will use 10 different front and rear wings during the course of the season.
“We can generate more downforce. That will give various classes. The layout of the track will define the wing specification“ he is quoted as saying by 'auto motor und sport'.
Green thinks the wings will be divided into four big groups.
“With the highest downforce, we will only run in Monte Carlo, Budapest, Barcelona and Singapore.â€
Melbourne, Sochi, Silverstone, Shanghai and Bahrain will fall under the class of medium-to-high. The medium-to-low wings will be used on tracks such as Spa or Baku.
Green conceded his team of engineers has not managed to find a wing for Monza yet. The cars generate so much downforce that they have to figure out how they can cut the level of downforce down because they have to reach high top-speed on the never-ending straights of the track located near Milan.
The drag will increase by around 10 aerodynamic points which will mean the top speed will fall from 360 kph to 340 kph. Despite to that loss, times are expected to tumble because the increased downforce levels will provide incredible traction and cornering speed.
The team’s former driver Nico Hülkenberg expects that the increased downforce level will make some corners frighteningly quick.
“Turn 3 and 9 (in Barcelona) will be absolutely flat-out. Only Red Bull or Mercedes could reach that before.â€
What the new era of F1 can promise, Hülkenberg summarized in one sentence: “The new cars feel brutal quick.â€
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By Balazs Szabo on 14 Feb 2017, 15:00
Force India’s technical director Andy Green and the Silverstone-based team’s former German driver Nico Hülkenberg revealed what an impact the 2017 technical revamp can have on racing. Both promised that the new generation’s cars will be frighteningly quick.
F1 partly returns to its pre-2009 state in aerodynamic sense. That year brought a new set of aerodynamic rules which curtailed the aero devices around the car. Consequently the downforce levels dropped by an easily measurable amount.
Teams were therefore forced to use ‘big’, steep wings to retain the aerodynamic balance of the car. Teams used to use high-downforce wings even on circuits with long straight. Mercedes often used its Spa-specification rear wing in Monza.
With the introduction of the new aerodynamic regulation for 2017, downforce levels are expected to fly up by a significant amount. Engineers will have plenty of downforce on their hands to play with which will explode in the war for the wing which suits the demands of the given track the best.
Force India’s technical chief reckons his team will use 10 different front and rear wings during the course of the season.
“We can generate more downforce. That will give various classes. The layout of the track will define the wing specification“ he is quoted as saying by 'auto motor und sport'.
Green thinks the wings will be divided into four big groups.
“With the highest downforce, we will only run in Monte Carlo, Budapest, Barcelona and Singapore.â€
Melbourne, Sochi, Silverstone, Shanghai and Bahrain will fall under the class of medium-to-high. The medium-to-low wings will be used on tracks such as Spa or Baku.
Green conceded his team of engineers has not managed to find a wing for Monza yet. The cars generate so much downforce that they have to figure out how they can cut the level of downforce down because they have to reach high top-speed on the never-ending straights of the track located near Milan.
The drag will increase by around 10 aerodynamic points which will mean the top speed will fall from 360 kph to 340 kph. Despite to that loss, times are expected to tumble because the increased downforce levels will provide incredible traction and cornering speed.
The team’s former driver Nico Hülkenberg expects that the increased downforce level will make some corners frighteningly quick.
“Turn 3 and 9 (in Barcelona) will be absolutely flat-out. Only Red Bull or Mercedes could reach that before.â€
What the new era of F1 can promise, Hülkenberg summarized in one sentence: “The new cars feel brutal quick.â€
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GregRedd
New member
I agree 100%! I'm even prepared to overlook the little bubble noses. The Renault RS-17 had it's showing today - looks a beast. Love that they've brought black back into their colour scheme. Hopefully they have a better season too.
Wyvern
Khaleesi
Oh wow that is a sexy Renault! I cannot wait to see what happens this season. I have a feeling tho that it will still be Merc, Redbull and Ferrari on top. But the middle pack will hopefully be very interesting.
It is sad that Manor fell away. But I will rather have fewer cars in the field than have that slow team in there that just causes trouble.
It is sad that Manor fell away. But I will rather have fewer cars in the field than have that slow team in there that just causes trouble.
Dohc-WP
Ron Burgundy
manor had a mercedes engine and yet they were crap, just shows its not just the engine that makes the car, and that applies to mclaren also, they issues stem far deeper than those honda motors. i was surprised that force india pipped williams last year, hopefully williams will have a season as good as their 2015 season
Wyvern
Khaleesi
I am hopeful that williams will make a come back, but the force india team is actually on the ball. Plus they have decent drivers, I feel the williams team is just wallowing in the past.
mottamort
Bargain Hunter
Didn't they have Mercedes's previous year's engine? I think i heard/read that somewhere, that the "b" teams had previous gen engines...
Dohc-WP
Ron Burgundy
yes i believe they had, but look at how the other lesser teams are also performing who are also using the previous year's engines
