The Numbers Game

[OmegaFenix]

I would like to take a minute and ask everyone to go watch this: The Big Picture - The Numbers

And while in the scope of this particular video it sticks to Cinema the concept applies equally well to games.

Watch, Comment and lets discuss this.

 

[czc]

Firstly I have never read H P Lovecraft.

Secondly I think its about accessibility. Fast & the Furious is much more fun for the general public to watch.

I guess we can equate Fast & the Furious to Call of Duty, extremely popular no need to think, fun.

Ok, its harsh but what sells the studios will concentrate on.

 

[OmegaFenix]

Firstly I have never read H P Lovecraft.

Secondly I think its about accessibility. Fast & the Furious is much more fun for the general public to watch.

I guess we can equate Fast & the Furious to Call of Duty, extremely popular no need to think, fun.

Would you take it personal if I called you an idiot?

No need to think

Yes because the human race is doing a tremendous amount of thinking at the moment, explains the bacon smell.

Inception (which is one of the best movies of the last decade) received poor box office returns in SA while some white trash local movie made a killing. What does that prove? That the road is paved with morons.

Fast and the Furious 1 was fun, 2 sucked donkey ballz. Tokyo Drift put a new spin on things and from there it just went tits up. Call of Duty is exactly the same, yes MW1 was awesome like what 5 years ago but that doesn't mean remaking the same tired game over and over is good, yet going by sales alone any sane business man would disagree and say "minimum effort for maximum return, WIN. "

Why would a big name publisher fork out piles of money on a risky IP idea when they can just green light MW XVIII and be guaranteed a huge return? Short answer is they wouldn't and they aren't, look at the release schedule for the next six months, with the exception of two titles, 1 in August and one in October there is nothing of note appearing until November.

Like Toxin said "This is why we can't have nice things......." because the Legion of Brainless twats out there who would rather play the upteenth COD that broaden their horizons just a teeny bit are climbing the tallest tower and screaming to the world "We are stupid, we don't need new mechanics or a different setting we are happy paying for and play the same game over and over again." And the Publishers are listening.

Its why you have to go to the classic section to find decent sci-fi at any bookstore while the sci-fi/fantasy section is overflowing with tweenpire/warewolf/witch teen mellow drama - Twighlight made bizzillions of dollars while the latest Ian Banks novel sit on the shelve gathering dust.

Because people don't think, which apparently there is no need for anymore.

/Rant over.

 

[Tsar]

Most games that are coming out are pure boredom.
Just rehashes of the same shit over and over.

I barely watch any tv shows bec most of them or just dumb.
Meh more time I guess to do other things.

Bulletstorm got so bloody boring,I did not even finish it.

 

[Fivel]

Sadly this is not limited to movies, games - books, music all seem to be going that way. The problem is that we live in an 'instant gratification' world, I know I generalise.....many people do not want to invest time into something to see if it is worthwhile.

It is a viscious circle, when we start catering for the lowest common denominator i.e. lowest risk. Over time I do however think that this will get better as studios will be in better financial shape - until then expect to see much more of the same.

 

[asciidrew]

Perhaps we should consider the possibility that people might just like the Call of Duty formula and that they might even be smart people. Deciding whether or not a game feels like a cash cow is very subjective. I think the CoD franchise is great, except for a few things that we could have done without.

From an entertainment standpoint, I was much more entertained by CoD: BO than I was with Dragon Age 2. Some of you might agree and some of you might call me crazy. At the same time I am having more fun with Worms 2 on the Xbox, than I am with CoD: BO. Crazy to some but perfectly normal to me; ie: subjective point of view.

If Call of Duty was really such a bad game, why on earth would it be the best selling game... ever? I honestly hear more bad stories about CoD: BO than I do about Avatar: TLA TBE. Maybe it is because some people prefer to challenge what the most people deem to be excellent. You know, for the sake of being different.

I always respect anyone's opinion about games, consoles and so on, but it doesn't always grease with my opinions. The CoD franchise is here to stay and so are the people who buy it. No one is forcing you to buy any games; buy what you want.

I've heard people say that games such as Gears of War, Mass Effect, Oblivion, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Portal and Forza are BAD games. I think they have no idea what constitutes a very good game, but at the very same time they feel the same way about games such as Lego Batman, Timeshift, BioShock and so on.

Basically: elke brommer op sy eie drol.

 

[czc]

Would you take it personal if I called you an idiot?

No, I wouldn't take it personally if you called me an idiot.

Yes because the human race is doing a tremendous amount of thinking at the moment, explains the bacon smell.

Inception (which is one of the best movies of the last decade) received poor box office returns in SA while some white trash local movie made a killing. What does that prove? That the road is paved with morons.

Fast and the Furious 1 was fun, 2 sucked donkey ballz. Tokyo Drift put a new spin on things and from there it just went tits up. Call of Duty is exactly the same, yes MW1 was awesome like what 5 years ago but that doesn't mean remaking the same tired game over and over is good, yet going by sales alone any sane business man would disagree and say "minimum effort for maximum return, WIN."

http://mygaming.co.za/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2059&d=1288774338

Why would a big name publisher fork out piles of money on a risky IP idea when they can just green light MW XVIII and be guaranteed a huge return? Short answer is they wouldn't and they aren't, look at the release schedule for the next six months, with the exception of two titles, 1 in August and one in October there is nothing of note appearing until November.

Like Toxin said "This is why we can't have nice things......." because the Legion of Brainless twats out there who would rather play the upteenth COD that broaden their horizons just a teeny bit are climbing the tallest tower and screaming to the world "We are stupid, we don't need new mechanics or a different setting we are happy paying for and play the same game over and over again." And the Publishers are listening.

Its why you have to go to the classic section to find decent sci-fi at any bookstore while the sci-fi/fantasy section is overflowing with tweenpire/warewolf/witch teen mellow drama - Twighlight made bizzillions of dollars while the latest Ian Banks novel sit on the shelve gathering dust.

Because people don't think, which apparently there is no need for anymore.

/Rant over.[/QUOTE]


Its the same reason why they don't make city-building games like the impressions series any more, not enough people will buy them.

Its the same reason why they didn't want to publish the Gardens of the Moon in America, "Its too long and complicated"

 

[Tsar]

Perhaps we should consider the possibility that people might just like the Call of Duty formula and that they might even be smart people. Deciding whether or not a game feels like a cash cow is very subjective. I think the CoD franchise is great, except for a few things that we could have done without.

From an entertainment standpoint, I was much more entertained by CoD: BO than I was with Dragon Age 2. Some of you might agree and some of you might call me crazy. At the same time I am having more fun with Worms 2 on the Xbox, than I am with CoD: BO. Crazy to some but perfectly normal to me; ie: subjective point of view.

If Call of Duty was really such a bad game, why on earth would it be the best selling game... ever? I honestly hear more bad stories about CoD: BO than I do about Avatar: TLA TBE. Maybe it is because some people prefer to challenge what the most people deem to be excellent. You know, for the sake of being different.

I always respect anyone's opinion about games, consoles and so on, but it doesn't always grease with my opinions. The CoD franchise is here to stay and so are the people who buy it. No one is forcing you to buy any games; buy what you want.

I've heard people say that games such as Gears of War, Mass Effect, Oblivion, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Portal and Forza are BAD games. I think they have no idea what constitutes a very good game, but at the very same time they feel the same way about games such as Lego Batman, Timeshift, BioShock and so on.

Basically: elke brommer op sy eie drol.

Dude the cod FRANCHISE is like the friday the 13th and nightmare on elmstreet of the gaming industry.
Same old shit over and over.

I mean we will never get a game like Ceaser 3 or Cleopatra It just would not make that many sales.

 

[Sockmonkey]

27 movie sequels will be released this year alone, says a lot about the movie industry and movie goers. I often watch the "big action blockbuster" at the cinema and wait for the others to reach DVD before I watch them. In a way I'm partly to blame then.

 

[OmegaFenix]

Perhaps we should consider the possibility that people might just like the Call of Duty formula and that they might even be smart people. Deciding whether or not a game feels like a cash cow is very subjective. I think the CoD franchise is great, except for a few things that we could have done without.

From an entertainment standpoint, I was much more entertained by CoD: BO than I was with Dragon Age 2. Some of you might agree and some of you might call me crazy. At the same time I am having more fun with Worms 2 on the Xbox, than I am with CoD: BO. Crazy to some but perfectly normal to me; ie: subjective point of view.

If Call of Duty was really such a bad game, why on earth would it be the best selling game... ever? I honestly hear more bad stories about CoD: BO than I do about Avatar: TLA TBE. Maybe it is because some people prefer to challenge what the most people deem to be excellent. You know, for the sake of being different.

I always respect anyone's opinion about games, consoles and so on, but it doesn't always grease with my opinions. The CoD franchise is here to stay and so are the people who buy it. No one is forcing you to buy any games; buy what you want.

I've heard people say that games such as Gears of War, Mass Effect, Oblivion, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Portal and Forza are BAD games. I think they have no idea what constitutes a very good game, but at the very same time they feel the same way about games such as Lego Batman, Timeshift, BioShock and so on.

Basically: elke brommer op sy eie drol.

Firstly.... Dragon Age 2 sucked so nobody really cares about that.

If Call of Duty was really such a bad game, why on earth would it be the best selling game... ever?

All that proves is that there are a whole bunch of idiots out there, nothing more. Or more specifically the amount of idiots outweighs the amount of non-idiots.
Its not about it being bad, its about it being rehashed. I can't believe I'm saying this but its like Tsar said; Nightmare on Elm Street, Holloween, Friday the 13th where all good movies back in the day but ever hear of too much of the same? By the time it got to its 3rd or 4th incarnation the world had gotten bored with it because it stayed the same predictable formula. Gaming is doing exactly the same. Think about it the Medal of Honor series died because it kept to the same tired WWII setting along came Infinity Ward with MW1 and praise jesus we have something that isn't set in the 40's. Now thats all we get, everybody is simply copying that. And its getting old alot faster than the WWII-shooters did.

I've heard people say that games such as Gears of War, Mass Effect, Oblivion, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Portal and Forza are BAD games.

You know why the COD-Generation says that? Because they can't think, point shoot, story is wafer thin and character development is some kind of bad word. Each one of those titles have one thing in common; you needed to be able to think a bit to enjoy them.

I think they have no idea what constitutes a very good game, but at the very same time they feel the same way about games such as Lego Batman, Timeshift, BioShock and so on.

And now I have to count you with the Gen-COD morons. BioShock is one of the best games of recent memory, showing that a shooter can be intelligent, tell a story and develop characters. It also has one of the deepest reaching, philosophically speaking, plots since System Shock 2. Unfortunately the powers that be tried sticking that in the sequal-o-matic and it turned out BioShock 2, a piece of Bantha Poodoo.

27 movie sequels will be released this year alone, says a lot about the movie industry and movie goers. I often watch the "big action blockbuster" at the cinema and wait for the others to reach DVD before I watch them. In a way I'm partly to blame then.

Yes you are BAD Sock!

 

[asciidrew]

And now I have to count you with the Gen-COD morons. BioShock is one of the best games of recent memory, showing that a shooter can be intelligent, tell a story and develop characters. It also has one of the deepest reaching, philosophically speaking, plots since System Shock 2.

This is exactly what I am saying. I don't like ONE game you like and I am now a moron. I totally agree that BioShock is an outstanding game. Its technically brilliant. Its just not my cup of soup.

I understand what you are saying. CoD has become the video game equivalent of Saw and it is showing signs of getting worse. I still enjoy it.

I am not offended for being called a moron over the internet or anything, but Tarryn's articles about gamers being sucky people still hold water. You must learn to respect the opinions of others.