The world's first self-driving fatality has been confirmed

Lol one death and you want to throw in the towel. There once where a car the desert it drove into the only tree in 100km radius does this mean we should remove all the trees or stop driving cars...
 
A lesson maybe that we shouldn't put our lives 100% in the hands of machines, there should always be a human element
 
Imperius said:
A lesson maybe that we shouldn't put our lives 100% in the hands of machines, there should always be a human element
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Well, this was a Tesla driving assist, where you need your hands on the steering wheel at all times for it to work, so maybe the human element was at fault too.. I think this story is being blown out of proportion because of the novelty value of the tech involved being imperfect.
 
Yeah I dunno. This is a lot like people harping on about the dangers of nuclear power. There are dangers, yes. But statistically, it's so much safer, cheaper and more efficient than anything else that it doesn't even make any difference. Point is that a human driver in that situation wouldn't have seen the car either, and the exact same thing would have happened.

But yeah, this is an area where we need to be 100% sure that we're considering all avenues.
 
Imperius said:
A lesson maybe that we shouldn't put our lives 100% in the hands of machines, there should always be a human element
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Pfft I can't wait to get a self driving car. There shouldn't always be a human element. In the case of this Tesla one, yes, because the driver was supposed to have his hands on the wheel in any case. But just look at the Google self driving cars and so forth. Absolutely amazing. I would trust that over a taxi driver at any time. In fact I would trust it over myself too because I'm only human.
 
Would be nice if someone could set up a village somewhere that only allows self driving cars so that we can see how well they cope without human intervention in the real world.
 
AstroTurf said:
Would be nice if someone could set up a village somewhere that only allows self driving cars so that we can see how well they cope without human intervention in the real world.
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Well that would kind of defeat the purpose; if the only thing the car would need to predict is other predictable things (i.e. pre-programmed self-driving cars) the system would most likely run without flaw for eternity (barring mechanical errors). It's predicting the unpredictable, such as an illegal turn by an oddly shaped truck at sunset at a space without space to turn, that's the tricky part.
 
DarthRiven said:
Well that would kind of defeat the purpose; if the only thing the car would need to predict is other predictable things (i.e. pre-programmed self-driving cars) the system would most likely run without flaw for eternity (barring mechanical errors). It's predicting the unpredictable, such as an illegal turn by an oddly shaped truck at sunset at a space without space to turn, that's the tricky part.
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yea, basically trying to see what the future would be like without human error causing accidents :)

But also, nothing predictable about the owners of cars deciding to change course half way or stop impulsively for an ice cream.
 
DarthRiven said:
Yeah I dunno. This is a lot like people harping on about the dangers of nuclear power. There are dangers, yes. But statistically, it's so much safer, cheaper and more efficient than anything else that it doesn't even make any difference. Point is that a human driver in that situation wouldn't have seen the car either, and the exact same thing would have happened.

But yeah, this is an area where we need to be 100% sure that we're considering all avenues.
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That is exactly what happened. The car's radar and sensors didn't pick up the car, but neither did the driver inside the car.

Sure, he might have been a bit more attentive if the "advanced cruise control" (it is not self driving) was not turned on or was not part of the car, but if he would have seen the truck then, no one will ever know.
 
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