What the hell is George Lucas thinking?

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Found this on The Escapist:
For the upcoming Blu-Ray release of the Star Wars films, George Lucas has shat upon his own work - again.

If I learned anything from watching Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back, it's that Darth Vader is corrupt. He is evil all the way to his mechanized core. Despite Vader's son entreating him to see the good inside him in Return of the Jedi, it is too late for him. That is, until Darth Vader, Lord of the Sith, is forced to watch his only son be tortured to death by the Emperor who corrupted him. There is no audible reaction, but Lord Vader is overcome by the man he used to be and suddenly rebels against his former master, tossing the frail body still emitting lightning into the Death Star core where it finally explodes. The silent, stoic, selfless act is Anakin Skywalker's last, all the more potent because of it required no dialogue.

Until now.

For the Blu-Ray release of all six films of bearing the name Star Wars coming out on September 15th, Mr. George Lucas has once again changed a few things. Loyal fans may remember the addition of plot and character changing images such as Greedo shooting first and young Hayden Christensen appearing as a ghost at the end of Jedi when Lucas reissued the Special Edition of his films.


The Blu-Rays change even more, the most egregious being Vader uttering, "No. NOOOOOO!" right before he betrays Emperor Palpatine. The video above shows the change, which was confirmed by a representative at LucasArts via email to the New York Times: "Yes - Darth says NO."

I get it. I get that Lucas can't help tinkering with his films. He must hate the backlash that the "NOOOOOOOO!" received from the end of Revenge of the Sith and he wants to make it work thematically by calling it back (forward?) in Jedi.

But come the fuck on, George. Please stop. You obviously don't understand how you made great films in the 70s & 80s if you keep making these changes. What's next? You add Jar Jar Binks to the cantina scene, or re-record Alec Guinness's dialogue in Star Wars to include midi-chlorians?

This further proves that Lucas only made the original Star Wars films by accident. I now officially regret pre-ordering the blu-ray sex-ology back in January. I was going to give the prequels another shot ... maybe they weren't as bad as I had thought ... well, screw that.
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What is the man doing? :confused:
 
How are you guys surprised ?! The man created a legend and then killed it all by himself. Full circle :D


You should really get to read The secret history of star wars, then you'd see how it was an "accident".
 
who cares , its his he made it he broke it . let move on to something better and leave the ancient past in the past

Avengers ..... here we come .
 
Staple2 said:
Fans are so fickle.
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Probably because there are certain things that result in people becoming fans. Take that away, break it, reshape it, whatever you want to call it and it starts becoming really difficult to remain fans of something you no longer enjoy.

So yes, fans are fickle. It's sort of comes with being a fan.
 
Who cares, the only thing I really remember and liked from Star Wars was Carrie Fisher as a chained up slave with minimal clothing. :D
 
Tweaking is okay, like adding in missing xwings and extending scenes, but changing the plot should be a no no.

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Lycanthrope said:
Probably because there are certain things that result in people becoming fans. Take that away, break it, reshape it, whatever you want to call it and it starts becoming really difficult to remain fans of something you no longer enjoy.

So yes, fans are fickle. It's sort of comes with being a fan.
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I agree that people become fans because of a certain piece of work, and that if work of the same quality (read: Phantom Menace) is not produced further on then fans get agitated. Trust me, I'm a big fan of the original Star Wars series.

Why I'm arguing that fans are fickle is because something like Darth Vader now screaming "NOOOOOO" where he was silent before, does not really alter the story in anyway. Sure, it probably doesn't make it better. But it's not destroying the SW legacy. It really isn't such a big deal. Ask yourself if you would have enjoyed Star Wars less had Darth Vader's "NOOO" been included in the original. If Lucas thinks the "NOOO" fits the story better now, then I think he has license to change it. It's not like it's a game-changing event - just a new cinematic feature.
 
What I want to now is why add something in that really does not need to be there? Like they say less is more.
 
I don't like George he is just a fool really. look at the last three movies. they where bad :(
 
Staple2 said:
I agree that people become fans because of a certain piece of work, and that if work of the same quality (read: Phantom Menace) is not produced further on then fans get agitated. Trust me, I'm a big fan of the original Star Wars series.

Why I'm arguing that fans are fickle is because something like Darth Vader now screaming "NOOOOOO" where he was silent before, does not really alter the story in anyway. Sure, it probably doesn't make it better. But it's not destroying the SW legacy. It really isn't such a big deal. Ask yourself if you would have enjoyed Star Wars less had Darth Vader's "NOOO" been included in the original. If Lucas thinks the "NOOO" fits the story better now, then I think he has license to change it. It's not like it's a game-changing event - just a new cinematic feature.
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I feel this just takes a certain bit of imagination out of the ordeal. Darth Vader has always been a faceless character so we "read" our own imaginings into his emotions. I feel that the scope of his personality has been narrowed to a point where it makes him look feeble.

However, I'm not a huge fan of the Star Wars series, but I am a huge fan of the Star Wars lore, philosophies and back-stories, so take what I have to say about this with a pinch of salt :)
 
The original Star Wars had Jabba played by a man because he didn't know how to put in a big slug. This was left out of the final film. When he remade it in 1997 he put in the slug that appeared in episode 6. This was certainly one of the instances where it enhanced the film.

Of course not all changes will be welcomed by everyone.
 
I get why people get upset , for some people changing things in starwars would be like setting a bible on fire.
George made it , he should just leave it alone now.

On a side note , myth busters have proven that it is possible to polish a turd ,
this is how ever no dung so he should stop with the polish.

If it aint broke dont fix it.
 
I'll be getting the popcorn and watching from the sidelines. :D

As long as they don't change Enemy at the gates I'm happy.
 
Lycanthrope said:
I feel this just takes a certain bit of imagination out of the ordeal. Darth Vader has always been a faceless character so we "read" our own imaginings into his emotions. I feel that the scope of his personality has been narrowed to a point where it makes him look feeble.

However, I'm not a huge fan of the Star Wars series, but I am a huge fan of the Star Wars lore, philosophies and back-stories, so take what I have to say about this with a pinch of salt :)
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Hence we read his emotions and not him going all edward on us. Next thing we know we will have a sparkling vader.

Also the thing of han now shooting not first and the bounty hunter that was tweaked to shoot first in the initial bar scene.

LG is just one of those people who would be never happy with something, and that something must always be "made better" at each iteration. Classic/old flicks are for good as they are, this is why I prefer the original theatrical cuts on a previous dvd release over the "fixed" ones.

When we get another technology, take good bet that GL will yet again find something that is "broken" and needs to be "fixed"
 
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